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TeeCee
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   Old Thread  #122 14 Apr 2021 at 5.32pm    Login    Register
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>In cctv footage he looks alive enough to have gone to buy cigarettes, then when in the custody of a handful of police officers he is dead

He looked wired in the shop; acting very strangely. Woman who was in the car with him said he had fallen asleep in the car before cops arrived...weird. jittery/sleepy within minutes. See below.

>It doesn’t matter if somebody is on drugs, they shouldn’t be dying in police custody. Serve and protect, not smother and kill

How can police be held accountable for an overdose victim --> 4x the overdose levels needed to kill a man



mal
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   Old Thread  #121 14 Apr 2021 at 5.26pm    Login    Register
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The person who does know that - i.e. The chief of police for Minnesota - has gone on record during the trial stating that Chauvin did not act in accordance with either training or department policy.

No 'apparent' about his statement.

fishie
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fishie
   Old Thread  #120 14 Apr 2021 at 5.17pm    Login    Register
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Positional Asphyxia taught in all UK police forces/services. Why do I need to know about there procedures as it’s positional asphyxia anywhere in the world! 👍🏻
noj
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   Old Thread  #118 14 Apr 2021 at 5.08pm    Login    Register
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In cctv footage he looks alive enough to have gone to buy cigarettes, then when in the custody of a handful of police officers he is dead.
It doesn’t matter if somebody is on drugs, they shouldn’t be dying in police custody. Serve and protect, not smother and kill.
GF was obviously a degenerate but the rights that keep all of us safe protect the pond life too and even if he did deserve the death penalty (for fake currency lol) he would’ve had his day in court
I’m all for executing 40-50% of the global population because they are generally ****s, but if that were a reality there would be nobody left because we are all a **** to somebody. As I’ve said many a time civilised society is basically the tolerance of ****s
TeeCee
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   Old Thread  #117 14 Apr 2021 at 4.56pm    Login    Register
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Floyd has the skin rolled back from his neck to his buttocks I his autopsy, there was no brushing under the skin which suggests to me that the force used didn't lead to his death.

>Did he take **** loads of fentanyl and compromise his own heart somehow momentarily?

Proves the point doesn't it? Crowder: don't take drugs = live, Floyd: take drugs to such a level that is 4 X that of overdose levels = dies.

When I first saw the footage, I reacted just like everyone else did, the cop looked like he'd killed Floyd, since seeing different angles, the half hour of the interaction with Floyd, finding out about the drugs, the overdose he'd had only a month or so previously, drugs in the back of the cop car with Floyd's saliva on them, the way he kept saying "I can't breathe" even before he was on the ground, his erratic behaviour, I've come to an entirely different reasoned conclusion.
TeeCee
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   Old Thread  #116 14 Apr 2021 at 4.44pm    Login    Register
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Heavy handed policing towards black people in the USA

the 2017 FBI crime statistics brings up some very interesting data sets, one of them being the murder rate

Black's: 53.1% murder rate of which they're 13% of the population
White: 44.2% murder rate of which they're 62% of the population

Seeing as the murder rate is so high in the black community, considering their low percentage rate, would it not seem reasonable that the police would focus more on this particular group? That might seem on the outside if you're black that cops are always pulling blacks over more than whites do = racism, inwardly, blacks are committing murders higher than white people and again are significantly less [13%] in the population distribution.



noj
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   Old Thread  #115 14 Apr 2021 at 4.35pm    Login    Register
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And if you’re lucky enough to have both they are probably holstered on different sides. Left and right can be a bit tricky sometimes I admit
Tinhead
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   Old Thread  #114 14 Apr 2021 at 4.19pm    Login    Register
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Seeing they are 2 different types of weapon you would think at least the safety lock would be different?
TeeCee
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   Old Thread  #113 14 Apr 2021 at 3.55pm    Login    Register
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>Do you think what the officer did was right?

Under the circumstances, from what I gather they thought he was on something - which he was, he needed to be subdued. Did the knee kill him? No, no I don't think it did, he overdosed + heart problems.
noj
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   Old Thread  #112 14 Apr 2021 at 2.01pm    Login    Register
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What a convenient place to have died from an overdose.. under a white copper’s knee. Talk about good timing!
It’s a shame that moron recreating it didn’t die, talk about tasteless. I haven’t and won’t watch any of that tripe to comment but the circumstances of why he didn’t die are the ones you’ve listed. Did he take **** loads of fentanyl and compromise his own heart somehow momentarily?
The copper knew full well what he was doing, he compresses the life out of GF
It doesn’t matter if he’s a drug addict porn actor who threatened somebody with a gun, he was a free man. arrest him safely for the fake note and let the court be his judge, not a knee on the neck/back/shoulder in the gutter being filmed dying
braders1978
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   Old Thread  #109 14 Apr 2021 at 1.50pm    Login    Register
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I dont think kneeling on someone's neck for a prolonged period of time is any police forces procedure.Do you think what the officer did was right?
TeeCee
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   Old Thread  #108 14 Apr 2021 at 1.31pm    Login    Register
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Unless you know the exact details of the Minneapolis police procedure for dealing with crims, best not to speculate, eh?
TeeCee
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   Old Thread  #107 14 Apr 2021 at 1.14pm    Login    Register
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Because he had 11mg [mg could be wrong weight] per ml of Fentanyl + meth amphetamine in his blood + Covid + a dodgy heart. The good doctor in court said that people have died of 0.3mg of Fentanyl in their blood, I'll add: the 0.3mg doesn't take into account what other contributing factors like age, sex, weight, height that lead to others dying of much lower than Floyd's 11mg.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #106 14 Apr 2021 at 1.09pm    Login    Register
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TeeCee
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   Old Thread  #105 14 Apr 2021 at 1.08pm    Login    Register
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If true, how comes Crowder didn't die?

He wasn't strangled.

Crowder isn't the biggest threat in the US, the mainstream media who have been fanning the flames of muh racism are the biggest threat. Like their total misrepresentation of the known facts of this case, totally ignore the drugs etc, previous convictions for pushing a gun into pregnant womens belly, porn star, instead they painted him as a pillar of the community and upstanding member of society when the truth of it is he was anything but that.

The subsequent riots that ensued and the media coverage was laughable at best and sinister at worse, like clearly burning down buildings in the background of live broadcasts from the likes of CNN caused by rioters and looters, with talking heads saying stuff like "mostly peaceful protests".
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