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Old-Cornishman
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   Old Thread  #20 21 Jan 2021 at 5.46pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #14
Not quite correct, there are 12 sided bolts around. Normally for special uses but I’ve come across them a few times on flywheels, big end bolts etc.
Tinhead
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   Old Thread  #19 21 Jan 2021 at 4.55pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #18

BTW I'd say the set in post #1 is average depth rather than shallow and should be deep enough for the nuts and bolts I'm likely to come across.
ocelot
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ocelot
   Old Thread  #18 21 Jan 2021 at 12.45pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
Don't drive tight nuts from the corners, drive them from the flats. Don't use a shallow socket on tight nuts, use as deep as the depth of the bolt head, minimum. Or you'll create rounded and damaged bolt/nut heads. Surface area
Tinhead
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   Old Thread  #17 21 Jan 2021 at 8.57am    Login    Register
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Thanks
Old-Cornishman
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   Old Thread  #16 21 Jan 2021 at 7.50am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
No, perhaps I didn’t explain my reasoning well enough.
I meant a 12 sided would be easier to fit onto a good hexagonal bolt or nut.
12 sides would give you double the chance of dropping on the hexagon of a bolt/ nut so on average you would only need to rotate the socket half the angle for it to align with the nut / bolt. Especially useful if you are using a breaker or T bar in a restricted space.
With a 6 sided you need to align it perfectly for it to drop on.

As you said in your second statement a 6 sided socket provides more contact area so better for strength.
The one with rounded corners just drives on the flats so works even if the nut/ bolt corners have been destroyed.
Tinhead
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   Old Thread  #15 21 Jan 2021 at 0.23am    Login    Register
So a 12 sided socket is better for worn nuts and bolts?
But a 6 sided socket is better in that with more contact area it can apply more force?
ocelot
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ocelot
   Old Thread  #14 21 Jan 2021 at 0.15am    Login    Register
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Better at what?
You don't come across 12 sided bolts/nuts. A socket is the contact to the object you're about to introduce a force through. Greater the force the better a larger surface area contact. The same way you'd use the open end of a combination spanner on a tight nut. Or end up with bleeding knuckles
Old-Cornishman
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   Old Thread  #13 20 Jan 2021 at 10.39pm    Login    Register
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I Never given it much thought but the only things I can suggest are as follows.
1.The 12 sided socket would justify its existence in that it would be easier to fit to a bolt head than a 6 sided.
2. Both the 6 sided sockets drive better but the tooling to make straight sides would probably be cheaper to produce than that for curved sides, thus the two types of 6 sided.
Tinhead
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   Old Thread  #12 20 Jan 2021 at 8.18pm    Login    Register
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I've got mine. I hope I don't need them in a way, means I've not come across a problem

If these sockets are better can someone tell me why all sockets are not made this way?
warchild
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warchild
   Old Thread  #11 18 Jan 2021 at 0.01am    Login    Register
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i did buy these, and for the same reason and sump bolts etc, i have not used them yet, but for the price if they work once, then im ok with that
Tinhead
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   Old Thread  #10 11 Jan 2021 at 9.46am    Login    Register
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Ordered
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #9 11 Jan 2021 at 9.37am    Login    Register
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I guess it depends on how much heavy work you will be doing. 3/8 will suffice for most home enthusiast's but half inch might be a better option if you've got heavily rusted or larger stuff to undo. For the price in the op link looks a steal, Bergen used to do pretty decent tools back in the day so if quality hasn't slipped you might be onto a winner
Tinhead
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   Old Thread  #8 11 Jan 2021 at 8.13am    Login    Register
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Thanks at the price I think I'll get them. Might come in handy one day

Edit
Or maybe I need 1/2" drive?
ip100
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   Old Thread  #7 11 Jan 2021 at 7.44am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #6
They were designed for rounded off bolts...
Tinhead
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   Old Thread  #6 9 Jan 2021 at 4.20pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Did you buy these in the end and are they any good for nuts and bolts that are slightly rounded?

I struggled with some exhaust clamp bolts a couple of years ago, maybe these might of helped.?
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