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In reply to Post #60
It’s the old gypsy saying. It’s not the size of a dog in a fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog 
Now those lads do rule by the knuckle 
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To be fair the big steroid meat heads have never been unfriendly in my experience in gyms. When I started out they would always help out and give advice on training and food. Very rarely been offered gear either to be fair.
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In reply to Post #59
all about range LOL.
bodybuilders are like a side of beef. most of the really big guys I've met have been lovely
you know the fella Cobra from Gladiators. he was a regular at an 'old school' gym I used to go to.
you couldn't meet a quieter less assuming bloke. But he had to LIVE in the gym to get that size plus all the chemicals.
to be fair to him, he cycled everywhere and was also very fit. with explosive power. a cut above.
but I heard him talk about a road rage encounter he had on the way in snd he was clearly shocked. talking about how big the guy was LOL. i think it often masks insecurity
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In reply to Post #56
Size plays the intimidation game. Once saw a bouncer like you mention, massive, get the beating of his life from a lad who could fight / box. Size is not the answer, it’s being able to use it 
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In reply to Post #28
sharp response fellah 
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In reply to Post #50
Exactly how I started out as a kid, boxing gym, proper **** hole, condensation on the windows and mouldy walls, stinking sweaty pile of gloves in the corner and old rusty weights. It was for training in, brilliant
The type of gyms you mention are the ones I trained in. Worked at one company for 20 years, the gym I used had a weight room and a decent floor area, just a few machines in it. Used to pass it when travelling too and from work, 40 minutes in and out, job done, no major inconvenience to my lifestyle, part of my working day, no excuse, it was just a stop off on the way too and from work when required
I have joined two gyms over the years like the ones you mentioned, signed up,,packed in after two or 3 sessions, full of tanned orange spotty backed monkeys looking at themselves in the bright lights 
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most of these guys would be much better in a boxing gym. self-confidence from genuinely being able to protect yourself
rather than hopeing that wide lats do the job.
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In reply to Post #49
You’d have to be mad wouldn’t you?
A mate of mine got big without a gym or juice on a diet of noodles, rice, eggs, biscuits and vegan sausages.. It wasn’t overnight, 5 years and 6 months I think 
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In reply to Post #51
That doesn't mean a thing to me but after reading what people have said I wouldn't 
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Jon Poll Sigmason died of a massive heart attack years ago.
Shame really it was good watching him compete on the telly at Xmas.
Geoff Capes also took a fair bit of gear as well. The owner at a gym I trained at had a mate who supplied him back in the day.
I bumped into Geoff 18 years ago. Not very mobile and the size of a house.
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In reply to Post #8
That’s why when steve Redgrave retired from rowing he still had to train every day but it so intensely and gradually slow it down as the heart is a muscle and he could have had serious problems if he didn’t
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In reply to Post #49
Only 1000mg of tren a week 
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The users have been around for years but back in the 80’s it was the serious guys using the gear. Now it’s every Tom Dick and Harry, including those who don’t understand nutrition and training routines.
I put together a home gym 15 years ago and much prefer it too bring around Tom Dick and Harry.
All the best hardcore gyms closed down years ago anyway. It’s all The corporate ones now. Gone are the old school gyms in old warehouses and old factory buildings. Big slabs of iron, not pretty but a good environment to train in.
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In reply to Post #1
Is it really that bad, if done sensible?
Well after reading everyone's comments are you going to try them?
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In reply to Post #46
Always the way... It is abuse tho.
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NON Carp stuff