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djstrauss281
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djstrauss281
   Old Thread  #45 24 Oct 2020 at 10.33am    Login    Register
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Pal no need to start getting aggressive or start calling people names on here. Common decency should be a necessity and not a privilege!

As for your statement. I own a bait boat. Cost me £2400 and have used it twice this year. I prefer finding clear spots with just a lead on my marker rod as I find it more accurate then my toslon tf640. I also prefer my line lay from casting then dropping it coiled from a boat and spodding gives me something to do and I personally feel I can dictate my bait spread better.

That being said my local waters allow me to use boats and If I find a swim where the boat can benefit me I will use it without thinking twice. This is after all why I bought one.

As previously mentioned as long as the water allows boats what is your point? As you mention your lakes are banning them. Well there you go. No issue going forward

Might want to work on your keyboard persona getting upset when someone ask a legitimate question

Tight lines

EDIT:

I see you have no decided to edit your post making it bit less aggressive
Defiant.one
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Defiant.one
   Old Thread  #44 24 Oct 2020 at 10.26am    Login    Register
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Well they won’t be doing it on my Lakes from next year, and I know three other Clubs who are banning them too, even Mr Fairbrass has banned them on all his Embryo waters as well I believe.


If they want to find the depths- they will have to skill up and use a marker float.


If they want to find fish they will have to learn some water craft, go spend some time watching learning instead of being so bone idle.


A Level playing field for all, the "Fish at all cost brigade" can go else where.
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #43 24 Oct 2020 at 10.25am    Login    Register
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If you don't see an issue with fishing behind snags then you should not be fishing.If you have had to get around the snag to drop your rig how are you going to get the fish back around them.Irresponsible angling,potentially tethering and killing the fish
djstrauss281
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djstrauss281
   Old Thread  #42 24 Oct 2020 at 10.15am    Login    Register
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How is any of what you said cheating?

First off using a boat to get around snags that's one of the perks of paying a lot of money for a bait boat. If the water allows it then what's the problem? At the end of the day if you are willing to pay you have the same privilege? As long as the area the person fishes doesn't belong to another swims water I fail to see the problem here?

Also talking about people mapping the lake and taking that swim. Again I fail to see the problem here. If the swims are clear with no bucket on it why would you not be allowed to take the swim? In my opinion if anything kudos to the guy who gets there first and does the effort to find fish in whatever way he can and set up. Is it his fault if someone pre baited the area without reserving the swim?

In my opinion its simple really. If the lake allows bait boats and everyone are allowed to use them it cant be classified as cheating. As long as that person fishes his own water that's registered to his swim and doesn't protrude into other peoples water he has done nothing wrong



Defiant.one
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Defiant.one
   Old Thread  #41 24 Oct 2020 at 9.56am    Login    Register
Unfortunately Baitboats & Deepers give the user the opportunity to cheat if the user desires to do so.

~ I’ve lost count number of times I have witnessed Baitboats being sailed behind snags, at the back of over-hanging trees at a far margin, around the left or right of a large protruding bush to get to some area it’s impossible to cast a rig to. And it always seems to take place when they think nobody is about to witness what they are playing at.

~ One of the latest crazes is to try and turn up before anyone else is about and cast a deeper about in every swim OR sailing a Baitboat in every area with a deeper /fish finder fitted until it shows fish, then set up in that swim, if the area the fish are congregated just happens to be an area someone else has been pre-baiting for weeks it does not matter, as they would never think of doing such things themselves
(This happened to a mate a couple of weeks back, there is no way on this planet the guy would have put a rig in that area if the Baitboat/Deeper combination had not shown him too)



Nothing clever about these actions, it’s just plain cheating – fish at all cost. They are being banned on our waters from next year.
chipbecks
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chipbecks
   Old Thread  #40 23 Oct 2020 at 7.50pm    Login    Register
Would only be cheating if the fishery states no bait boats

Enjoy your fishing mate and ignore all the tobys
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #39 23 Oct 2020 at 6.39pm    Login    Register
There’s an 84 year old in one of my clubs who’s still rowing his gear across a 50 acre lake. Using a bait boat, I think you should be ashamed of yourself. You might catch fish, but they are meaningless. Your captures have zero merit.























I’m joking you cretins. Apart from the bit about the 84yr old
johnnyfubar
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johnnyfubar
   Old Thread  #38 23 Oct 2020 at 6.02pm    Login    Register
Hi Ernie

Still fishing at 80?, sod everyone and every rule!!!!
Just go out there and enjoy every minute of it.
As far as the bait boat is concerned "drive it like you stole it"

Best

Jon
bristol
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bristol
   Old Thread  #37 23 Oct 2020 at 1.32pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #31
100% this
EWAC
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EWAC
   Old Thread  #36 23 Oct 2020 at 11.58am    Login    Register
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Thanks for all of your comments and support guys.
MARKerz
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   Old Thread  #35 23 Oct 2020 at 10.27am    Login    Register
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So many silly comments made around fishing like most other things in life.

If the rules allow their use and it helps you and it's used responsibly then nothing wrong at all, good for you.

As for the stupid accusation, treat it with the contempt it deserves.
Chuffy
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Chuffy
   Old Thread  #34 23 Oct 2020 at 10.06am    Login    Register
Always makes me laugh the bait boat debate, see you can drive around in an actual boat, stick your head in the water like a Brown Bear looking for the spots, prod about with sticks to find the 'sweet spots' and drop your rig on 'the money', lifting it and repositioning it until it's 'bang on', 'hoof' in a bucket of bait, job done, now that's considered 'Carpy', in fact seriously 'Carpy'.

but

having to still find your spots from the bank by either dropping a lead from a bait boat to feel the drop or using a sonar to interpret what (you think) the bottom is like, or both, is considered 'cheating', yeah right,

crack on mate and enjoy your fishing
Richpp1989
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Richpp1989
   Old Thread  #33 23 Oct 2020 at 8.26am    Login    Register
Completely agree on what others have said who cares what they say, your still out enjoying your fishing so do what ever you like mate. I don’t understand why people call it cheating? Who are you cheating it’s not a competition or anything like that is it.

I don’t use a bait boat anymore just because my lake doesn’t call for it but if I started fishing some where that did I wouldn’t hesitate to use one again.

Well done on still fishing I hope I am when I’m your age
nayfeee
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nayfeee
   Old Thread  #32 23 Oct 2020 at 0.12am    Login    Register
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Always makes me laugh this. Cheating? Cheating at what? It's not like we're in a match or playing fishing against someone else.

As long as we have respect for our surroundings, other anglers and our quarry who gives a rats ass how the fella in the next peg gets his baits out? If you don't like bait boats then don't use one...they're not for me, but as long as someone is using it sensibly and without causing havoc I couldn't care less.

Do what you have to that lets you keep getting on the bank buddy!
Enut
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Enut
   Old Thread  #31 22 Oct 2020 at 10.00pm    Login    Register
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As others have said congratulations on still going fishing at 80, I hope you're still catching your fair share and you obviously still enjoy it so good on you.

What sad piece of work complains that it's cheating for an 80 yr old to use a bait boat, that's an awful thing to say. If it was my lake you would be free to use a bait boat as much as you like and he'd be looking for another venue.
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