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In reply to Post #7
Heavy glugging freebies is the same as any other tacric. There are times on certain waters at certain times of the year it will work in your favour and equally there are times it will work against you. There is no one size fits all in carp fishing.
With all bait companies now plugging glugged baits and lots of liquids now it probably a good time to fish baits washed out with lake water if you fish the kind or pressured water where everyone follows the latest trend.
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In reply to Post #44
One liquid which I'm sure attracts carp is tiger nut goo / snot. That's one liquid I have seen carp rip the bottom up for. It sinks well and seems to hang around on the bottom for a while before it dissolves.
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In reply to Post #36
Where you're going wong, is you're not using mountain fitered water to wash them out with though
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Well I like putting liquids in my spod mix and I’m not gonna be bullied into stopping by you lot. 
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I’m not going to lie I do put a small amount of sticky pure krill liquid over my krill boilies and it does suck it all up and there is not liquid after a few days to week left in the bucket but I do agree I don’t see the point in adding a lot I only put a very small amount to just cost them and make them wet
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In reply to Post #40
ahhhhhh thats where I'm going wrong then
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In reply to Post #36
Amateurs!
You are all missing a vital step in your prepping. First of all on taking delivery you have to nicely arrange the contents on either your sofa or kitchen worktop then post a picture of it on the DNA Faceache page saying something like:
'Only ordered this the other day and it's actually turned up, just got to prep them all with the 3 gallons of liquid then catch some scaly bangers'
Only then can the task of 'freezing, defrosting, soaking, drying, soaking, freezing, defrosting, soaking, drying, sprinkling, soaking, drying, sprinkling, take another pic for Faceache, spomb the granny, blank, go home repeat process' commence
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In reply to Post #34
I can see the point of soaking them in a food liquid. However I cant see the benefit of then washing it all out again. I have had good success soaking air dried baits in a mixture of hemp liquid amino liquid hemp oil and squid brand sauce until they were fully swollen up.
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In reply to Post #37
Oh of course. Gotta keep those wise old carp guessing
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In reply to Post #36
I'm hoping of course that you then put them through the RidgeMonkey boilie crusher to make sure that they're all different sizes?
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In reply to Post #34
how long do you soak them for in liquid? I normally air dry them 1st, then coat them in powder, then I wash them out in rain water, then airdry them again. Then add more liquid, then wash them out again. By which time I've used3 litres of liquid on 1 kg of boilies.
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In reply to Post #34
......and what difference have you noticed it makes after all that palaver?
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In reply to Post #33
So I've been loading my baits up with liquids, then when they've soaked it all up I then wash them out in lake water.... Then I take them out and air dry them.... When they're like bullets I coat in powder.... Bosh
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In reply to Post #32
using a bait out the bag without adding lashings of glug and liquid etc.....now thats a real edge 
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In reply to Post #31
haha.
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In reply to Post #30
unlike the liquids into the baits 
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In reply to Post #29
correct and anglers are sucked in by it all.
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In reply to Post #27
Marketing....
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In reply to Post #26
Yes, that's an option. However won't the gelatine seal in the attractors from the bait? I prefer to keep things simple. put my boilies in with my particle for the most part or if i'm just using boilie then add some fish sauce as they defrost.
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In reply to Post #25
totally agree. Coating a bait in powder is a complete waste of money in my opinion. Most if not all of it will be washed off before the bait hits the bottom. As for liquids, seems to be a trend now to soak your boilies in a liquid to "boost" them. I've heard of people washing out their baits in water, then pouring a 10 quid bottle of liquid over them. I honestly can't see the point? If your boilies have already taken on the liquid from the water, then there is no chance the liquid additive will soak in?
So basically.....wash out ya baits so the carp thinks they've been in the lake for ages, then pour liquid on em to "boost" em, going against the 1st method. Then pour a tub of powder on em which will wash off when you put the bait out.
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In reply to Post #25
Coat them with Gelatine mix first, Will be stuck for a fair while then....... 
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In reply to Post #20
I've argued with people about this before. i try and tell them that a coated bait, even if it's dried on will lose a lot of its coating by the time it has reached the bottom. One of the lakes I fish is 30ft deep on average so there won't be much powder getting to the bottom! Maybe the new Sticky active is different but in my experience coating baits in powder is a waste of time. if i'm going to rehydrate I use water or better still fish sauce from the supermarket as its thin enough to be drawn into the bait.
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In reply to Post #23
Same as I have experienced then.
Gonna save me a small fortune in liquids.
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In reply to Post #1
I said this on another post about S7 , I was interested to know if the liquids themselves were attractive to carp, Mark Holmes did a great job in convincing lots of us they were.
Well I'm fortunate to fish a clear lake with deep margins which the fish visit regularly. I used my baiting spoon to introduce large amounts of fish hydro and hydro wheat, I waited for the fish to start ripping the bottom up, nothing fish even swimming through the area ignored it, however introduce boilies straight out of the bag and the fish were straight on them.
I don't think using these liquids will do your fishing any harm but also don't think they greatly improve your chances of catching.
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In reply to Post #21
I think a lot of us end up doing the same things for different reasons. I like to add water to my boilies to stop them absorbing nasty tastes in silt, where t carper advocates using water so that the baits are leaking attractors from the moment they hit the water.
I'll also add a good dose of hydrolysate to the water, partly for immediate attraction, but mostly because it sinks like a brick and will sink into the lake bed and keep attraction there long after the baits have been eaten 
The new aminol seems pretty effective too
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In reply to Post #20
I’ve used liquids on baits for years. I’ve always liked thicker gloopy liquids, my favourite used to be the original carp company aminol and the baitcraft cow cola, both sadly not available in their original form. I’ve always thought that a liquid dissolves in the water quite quickly, hopefully leading to a quicker bite, where as the attraction of the base mix ingredients have to breakdown to release their attraction. So you get a fast and a slower release of attraction. I do this with all my Spod mixes. I try to put in loads of different food items and sizes to try to maintain different rates of attraction. I can’t see the point in just using one type of plain boilie, cos presumably it all breaks down at the same rate, it all becomes attractive and then less attractive at the same time.
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In reply to Post #19
I'm with you on that. Again it's an example of selling to anglers based on what they see on the bank, rather than what happens in the lake. This current fad of covering your boilies in a liquid, then coating them in some sort of 'dust'. All the anglers then talk about how awesome they look etc; by the time that they've been spodded out 80 yards, crashed 6 feet through the water and hit the bottom, no chance there's any of that 'dust' left anywhere near your bait.
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In reply to Post #18
But does the crumb even get to the bottom before it's destroyed by roach/rudd/perch/stone loach & co? I watched a group of perch destroying hempseed a couple of weeks ago in the edge....
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In reply to Post #17
I like coating all my baits in a liquid. I think it helps carry the lighter boilie crumb/dust to the bottom by sticking it to the bigger food items in the mix.
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In reply to Post #14
Exactly Rob.
The reason the pellets are so good is because they add to the amount of food - DNA S7 doesnt need the scent level boosting. I fell into the trap and bought lots of the different 'boosters' to try and improve it. S7 doesnt need boosting.
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In reply to Post #14
Of course it is, probably the easiest way to increase your profits, rebottle a bulk liquid, hype up the use of bait soaks or glugs.
Because they know carp anglers nearly always use double the recommended amounts 
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In reply to Post #14
The bait is that good, it needs a glug to make it better..... Load of nonsense and hype to make you buy more bits you don't actually need....
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In reply to Post #10
It's become a DNA 'thing' as far as I can tell, probably to sell the liquids, nearly every post on their Faceache page is either a picture of someone's delivery  which is just sad but mostly questions from punters about how to prep the bait with their liquids
I'll tell you how to prep it, take it out of the bag (pre-soak in water/chopping up etc optional) then chuck it in the lake
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In reply to Post #11
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In reply to Post #9
What do you consider is an extra attractor? Surely all of the ingredients of the bait, with the exception of the out and out binders are there because they are attractive to carp. I’d rather have a bait that contains gim betaine spices amino acids etc than not. Otherwise you might as well just use potatoes.
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In reply to Post #10
Awesome! Thanks for this. A new rabbit hole to explore now
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In reply to Post #9
Yes , it’s a load of bollox  , if you do a bit of research on carp chemoreceptors and gustatory system you can then make your own mind up , I personally believe a good hydroslate or liquid food is the best attractor for a bait bar none
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In reply to Post #7
Thanks for that. Interesting to hear that the boosting didn’t make much difference. I’ve got the pellets so will give them a try along with the paste wrapped around the wafter. Although that might be counter intuitive as it’ll just add weight to the wafter.
I always wonder how big a difference it makes or whether the smell or visual attraction really has that much of an impact. Been watching some underwater videos of carp behaviour and I can’t help think that using extra attractors are just a fad and sales gimmick. Bit like protein shakes for the fitness industry.
Any thoughts or opinions on this?
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In reply to Post #1
Imo you’ve got a superb bait in the S7 that just oozes attraction , put a couple of freebies in a glass of water overnight you’ll be surprised .
If there’s that much attraction from the freebies and you’re fishing matching S7 wafters I wouldn’t enhance them personally, they have enhanced amino attractants in them already , in my opinion you’d be overdoing it if fishing over a bed of bait , last thing I’d use is goo which is basically pipe leak detection fluid
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In reply to Post #1
I have tried boosting the wafters with S7 liquid food, S7 spod liquid and with the evo booster - made no difference at all. In fact the baits that were not 'enhanced', worked better. Adding s7 pellets via pva mesh is a good move though!
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In reply to Post #1
DNA do bottles of matching intense booster specifically designed for pop ups etc. Its really thin so will not affect buoyancy too much.
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In reply to Post #4
Just a glaze so all baits are covered. Will be fine as long as they are not swimming in it
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In reply to Post #3
That’s great Deano, Thanks.
When you say sensible, what’s sensible and insensible? About 5/10 ml liquid? I’m guessing on wafters it doesn’t make too much difference as they are weightless.
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In reply to Post #1
No experience of goo on them so can't comment on that but what I can say is you want go far wrong with the dna s7 evo liquid. I use it to boost all my s7 hookbaits (evo, wafters and pop ups) and I really feel it makes a difference and as long as you a are sensible with it, it doesn't affect buoyancy. It's also cheap as chips and a small bottle lasts ages.
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In reply to Post #1
I pretty much glug all my Fluro hookbaits. I tend to use the matching flavours. I spent an age with the goo and some b5 pop ups I had, drizzling it on and letting it soak right through the baits. They smelt and looked great, only problem is they never actually caught me anymore than the std pop ups. So I’ve ditched goo now and use matching liquids instead.
The exception to that would be cork balls/ cork dust. I’d only ever put the tiniest extra glug on them as I’d be worried that once they take on water they won’t pop up as well if they are loaded up with flavour.
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This is more a question regarding hook bait enhancements.
I bought some corker range wafters s7 and I’m thinking to add something to them.
I’ve seen the Korda Goo stuff and other additives, but what could work well? Would it be prudent to put the s7 liquid in them? Although I don’t have any of the liquid. My logical side says surely that would be the right thing to put in the tub and let soak in. So if I was to put something else in, like some Goo, would that have an adverse effect and take away from the s7 smell/taste?
Interested to hear what you think about soaking, in my case, some wafters. Never pre-soaked any hook baits so looking for some advice/guidance please?
TIA
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