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   Old Thread  #34 6 Aug 2020 at 7.05am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Absolutely mate.
And if I think to that the carp was a big and stunning one as well, a dark coloured common, it adds a bit of sadness being the culprit of such a lost.
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   Old Thread  #33 5 Aug 2020 at 10.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I fish busy club waters. I try to see signs of fish before I set up in a swim. First day / night I only bait up a few freebies next to my bait. Just in case the previous person in the swim filled it in. Where I fish lots of bait equals lots of bream. Better to fish very tight or use pva bags and stringers. You can go the other way and bait heavily but only if you are doing a long session and are prepared for three nights without sleep catching bream. The carp will eventually come but it's exhausting being up all night catching bream.
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   Old Thread  #32 5 Aug 2020 at 10.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Exactly.
Water quality is key to a fishes good health and is especially important if we are going to give a fish a stressful time.

Tazi.
Iíve also seen the same but even just throughout one day on a busy lake. Anglers changing swims, others taking their place, all throwing in large quantities of bait, no wonder some carp are fighting like bream, water quality and oxygen levels must be on the floor.
Bacteria will be thriving though.

I suspect by the end of the summer we could be seeing some sick fish around.
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   Old Thread  #31 5 Aug 2020 at 8.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That must have been very worrying
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   Old Thread  #30 5 Aug 2020 at 8.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #29 5 Aug 2020 at 8.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #28 5 Aug 2020 at 7.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I caught a carp few years ago... during the fight, a good scrap indeed, at least until I got the carp to the surface and it take the first breath of air. After that moment the fish wasn't able to dive properly under water and fought trashing the surface. After netted and take some pics, when I release it, the carp swam only to the surface, when i pushed it underwater it come up and floating like a buoy. Apparently a bladder issue. I managed to solve the problem moving the fish in the water, trying to oxygenate it, pushing gently the belly in an attempt to get the bladder release the air, nothing, it continue to float. After 45 minutes the carp swam away in open water always showing the back and the tail out of the water swimming back and forth in front of my swim for at least 20 minutes then disappeared down, when it released the air trapped in its swim bladder.
It was a strange experience and was afraid the fish could had died.
I heard grass carp often suffer bladder issue when they rest too much out of the water.
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   Old Thread  #27 5 Aug 2020 at 7.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #26 5 Aug 2020 at 7.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Heavy Barbel gear (12lb line, 2.25 rods), always rest them in the net before unhooking and I donít keep them out long (2 photos and thatís it). Itís just down to the time of year and water temps, any warmer than now and I wonít fish for them until it cools.
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   Old Thread  #25 5 Aug 2020 at 7.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fair point.

Incidentally I always rest carp as well after la ding them, 5 mi utes in the net before I u hook them and put them in the Retainer.
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   Old Thread  #24 5 Aug 2020 at 5.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Very true that, I had a run of catching them while trotting pellets tp pick out the better roach/chub, then on another stretch fishing for them, all of the safe returning spots were in slack water separated from the flow by big clumps of weed in summer. A few long releases later it was either find a better way or avoid the river at the most productive time of year. It works a bit too well during the rest period before unhooking, they can recover a bit too much and scrap on the bank, I've kind of learned to guage it now how long to give them so there strong but not going mental on the bank

I've not spoken much about using it for carp, among the first few people I told one lad asked "so you can leave them in there for a few hours then mate", that made me wonder a bit about people leaving fish in slings for extended periods because they think its fine with the extra oxygen
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   Old Thread  #23 5 Aug 2020 at 4.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Good idea that mate.

In my experience the biggest problem with barbel comes from people using light gear and playing the poor things for half an hour or so. Iíve not had too much trouble with barbel going back, but I use quite strong gear...but I always give them a rest in the net before unhooking and before returning, I think the rest before unhooking is crucial with barbel but donít see many doing it.
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   Old Thread  #22 5 Aug 2020 at 3.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Having kept koi and learnt a lot about water quality, I appreciate how much potential harm can be done by over feeding this time of year, when oxygen levels are low.
So I always err on the cautious side and just put a little in for a start then take it from there. I always remember the point that once itís in the lake you canít take it out again.
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   Old Thread  #21 5 Aug 2020 at 1.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Used to go for a week at a time. Incredible that one turns up to fish for a day/night and puts in kilos and kilos of bait. He leaves and in moves the next person doing exactly the same. Repeat to fade. Got sick n tired of seeing it but considering they were breaking no rules nothing could be said. Personally I think itís sickening to see.
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   Old Thread  #20 5 Aug 2020 at 12.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes m8,totally agree with that😡
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