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In reply to Post #430
Good post Ian.
Good enough to lock this thread now.
Time to move on people
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In reply to Post #428
I'm struggling a little to comprehend all the hate being thrown at the fella in this thread.
It's because these people have nothing better to moan about.
Greg has documented his last several campaigns on YouTube so to say the latest vid is made to try to justify something makes no sense at all imo.
He's not everyone's cup of tea but the best thing about carp angling for me is that way it unites anglers from all walks of life. I've shared a cuppa with cops, robbers, judges, and drug dealers on the bank and they've all got on like a house on fire because they share the same passion. Yet we come on here and the 'anglers' have f*ck all better to do than sit waiting for the next thing to slate, slag off, and moan about.
That's not aimed at any one person. It's aimed at everyone on here that just cannot find it within themselves to sit back, accept the guy is different, and offer credit for a great capture of a fantastic fish.
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In reply to Post #428
I never like to judge people, whoever they are, without meeting them in person...a lot of things seen and said on social media tends to split public opinion.
The Advance Angling rules, that are open for everyone to see on their webpage, clearly states in rule 6 "only designated swims may be fished" and the accompanying map of the lake does not show the islands in front of bailiffs as a designated swim. When we use to fish the lake back in the day when it was Cemex there was a rule that you could not fish from the islands, however the bailiffs used to, which is how Hodders island became named......Ken left his bivvy set up there for about 3 months and every week used to take his gear out in the boat and fish there. For every one fish that we collectively caught Ken caught 3. The following year we rented the island next to the yatch club, joined the yatch club
so we could legally use a boat and rinsed the place....it really was easy fishing compared to what we were used to. Not sure what is like now but fishing off those islands was a massive edge.
So does this compromise Gregs capture...not sure but it must have made it alot easier.
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I didn't find him all that aggressive really. After reading the opinions of the youtube vid on here I thought he was going to biting the heads off baby rabbits or something. Yes he does mention head butting the guy but lets be honest with each other, almost everybody says things like that and you can be almost guaranteed it's all mouth and no action.
He certainly doesn't come across as my cup of tea and I'd probably avoid him if I was fishing the same lake but I'm struggling a little to comprehend all the hate being thrown at the fella in this thread.
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In reply to Post #426
Ok and no offence taken, we are free to disagree.
In my opinion he will never remove the doubts, and if that video is how he wants to present himself in the public domain its up to him.
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In reply to Post #425
All of it.
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In reply to Post #424
Which bit?
The whole carping world knows there is something iffy about the circumstances surrounding the capture.
Just look at this thread.
Whether anyone else should care or not outside of the Burghfield anglers is a matter of opinion.
He knows it will always be in question.
If he can live with that then good for him.
He doesnt seem too happy about it though.
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In reply to Post #423
Load of tosh that is imo mate. No offence intended 
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In reply to Post #422
Whatever he says and however aggressive he gets he cannot change the fact that his capture of that fish is compromised.
And if he really didnt care, or really didnt think there was an issue, he wouldnt have spent near on 1h 45m in a video trying to justify it.
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Watched it now and TBH I meet guys like him pretty much anywhere I fish. They tend to be ok if you take them with a pinch of salt. He just came across as happy really, although the vid was waaaaayyyyyyy too long for youtube.
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In reply to Post #419
Doubt you'll see him fishing many day ticket lakes.
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Well, I quite like him.
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In reply to Post #410
He is why I avoid day ticket lakes like the plague, too many loud mouth Billy big balls chatting rubbish and generally being tits.
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In reply to Post #410
That comparison of Ellis to Sean Bean’s character in Ronin is absolutely priceless  
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In reply to Post #408
Clearly there’s not a ‘nut’ ban on Burghfield then. 
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In reply to Post #415
I dare someone to shout "get out that swim" on his next lake 😂😂😂😂 , see him running up the path , before he realises that unlike the island he IS allowed to fish there 👍
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In reply to Post #412
Your Mrs must have been bored to sit through that twaddle.
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In reply to Post #413
hopefully he sorts himself out
No need, I’m sure if he performs like said, somebody will sort him out
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In reply to Post #412
There you have it, an expert of human behaviour/physiologists opinion, reflects what many on here have said.
I suppose we will have to monitor what he does in the future, hopefully he sorts himself out.
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In reply to Post #407
WOW! The YT video! A man of his time? Well we all know someone who shows Ellis tendencies but this man is .Jim Shelley' to the power 10.
I got my wife, who is a psychologist, to sit down and watch the video and she was glued to the screen. I got snatches of her thinking as she pointed out various body language tells. 'Duping delight, deceit, narcissism, shame...'
We had a chat after and I came to the conclusion that he will be not be long i n carp fishing and may end up dong some time. Greg, go and have a chat with someone...and the fact that I am 100% sure you are reading this should confirm it in your mind.
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In reply to Post #408
Having indulged in a little of what this country's famous for, YouTube's algorithm presented me with 'Ellis Island - The Burghfield Common' so I clicked play on the TV. What..in the name of Redmire is this? Crikey, I grew up with Jack Hargreaves catching 6lb chub on a bent pin and John Wilson waxing lyrical about dragon flies while tench fishing.
I don't remember Jack shadow boxing and nutting the camera lens, waving a burger around like it's a broken glass in Glasgow at closing time, smoking fake cigars or ranting for the best part of 80minutes. It reminded me of Sean Bean's performance in Ronin...'Yeah SAS me, Strawberry Jam, job done etc. etc.' It was at this point I wondered if the weed was far stronger than anticipated. But no, a quick appraisal the following day confirmed my fears that it was indeed...real.
One positive is that it's a handy reference guide for anyone who wants to see Burghfield's stock, just zip through jabbering. As others have mentioned, I was still none the wiser about the whole in-bounds, out of bounds, gentleman's agreement not to fish the 'sanctuary' etc. It did seem odd that most of the stock was presented to camera in conveyor belt like fashion - not exactly Tom Stoke's levels of endeavour, adventure and sheer enthusiasm (Spodcast - great interview).
Each to their own and the fish didn't catch itself but I'd respectfully suggest that the grim grime soundtrack, editing of months of footage into 90mins etc. gives a certain audience a misleading impression of carp fishing that it's easy and done and dusted in a day with nothing more needed than a sack full of mainline and a D-Squared baseball cap. No one's commented on the number plate 'Cell Man' - aye, I prescribe one with pads (not lilies) in a swim a million miles from me.
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In reply to Post #408
I’m sure Avid are over the moon with their new poster boy....! The sad thing is they probably are....
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In reply to Post #407
What do you mean I think he's a fine ambassador for the sport LINK, gets my vote
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In reply to Post #400
Nothing personal as I don’t know GE but this video doesn’t put carp angling (or angling of any kind) in a good light. The way he just basically spouts off, threatening others is incredible, totally inappropriate and good angler/lucky angler/cheating angler he may be the beauty of the capture is soured by a very ugly video.
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Just watched the YouTube video, 90 minutes too long but well done for getting on the fish.
Wasn’t impressed when he openly said he was happy too overfeed the swim with tigers on his depart too F*ck the next mans fishing up, fish welfare at its best 
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In reply to Post #400
I dont even know who he is, but was told to watch the youtube video. Switched off after 10 mins, I couldn't understand his flipping accent. Wont bother again.
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In reply to Post #403
Or should have been hidden away better so as not to be seen.
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In reply to Post #402
It's very simple . If your on an island and someone shouts "get off that island" , and you crap your pants and run off , then you should not be on there .
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In reply to Post #400
I'm going the other way with it, I thought exactly the same when I first watched one of his vlogs but I'm kinda warming to him now and find him quite entertaining, what am I like
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In reply to Post #400
I tried to watch the video on youtube, just couldn't get into it, I didn't find it or him very engaging
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I tries to watch it...I don’t know the fella or want to, imo he come across like a 1st class bell end..... this could just be his media personality and he may actually be an all round good egg....but in the 10 mins of his blog i could cope with i think he comes across as a total *******.
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He's like a cross between David Brent, Alan Partridge and Ali G
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In reply to Post #397
He can talk it up all he wants , Terry with one rod tops it , no mater what he says about that being "then" .
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I watched the Oz Holness Korda Podcast earlier today. Really enjoyed it, especially his description of his capture of the BC. Talk about chalk and cheese with Ellis.
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In reply to Post #392
If your ok Facebook mate just have a look on his page, scroll down to the date of when he caught it you won’t miss it he had very loud music blasting out a few drunk lads partying with him and then shows a picture of a boat filled up with empty beer cans. I’m all for having a laugh but if he did that on any syndicate I no of he would have a instant life ban and rightly so, imagine if you was on there not involved but still trying to fish. The **** even had a DJ on there with him haha
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What a Ego that guy has, got to have been a single child. Massively impressive fish and capture but I wouldn’t fancy sharing a lake with someone like him.
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In reply to Post #393
Why. What did Lewis read do?? 
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I feel sorry for poor old Lewis Read !! Made himself look a proper ****😂
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anyone got a link to this party a few of mentioned it and curious to see it
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I watched the video last night don’t get me wrong far play to him for actually catching it, not going to get into fishing on the island or breaking rules but he does come across like all he is doing in his video is justify himself for being on there, now to me that just comes across guilty.
The one thing that makes his videos unbearable is his attitude he comes across to be a complete **** and don’t even get me started on that party in the evening he caught it, if I owned a lake I would never let him fish it ever again after that
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In reply to Post #388
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In reply to Post #388
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All together now ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZRe1kPWZw
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What I don't understand is, if he wasn't breaking any rules, why did he have to have a 'decoy' swim, couldn't fish the island if anyone could see him from the opposite swim and shat his pants when someone shouted 'oi get off that island,' then spends 90% of the video tying to convince that he wasn't breaking any rules, sounds like a classic case of rule breaking to me
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In reply to Post #385
I wonder if Avid cleared the video before release . Weather you agree with it or not I'm not sure I would want my company associated with it . I said in an earlier post sometimes it's best to "win" with dignity and style .
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Still not heard how much was raised for the fence or what Pecky raised through his raffle 🤔
Nailed it James9
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In reply to Post #373
Excellent post James
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It's quite depressing that the capture of the most iconic fish around today has turned into an episode of the Jeremy Kyle show 
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In reply to Post #381
Yeah he's a bit rowdy and all that happened "allegedly" is pathetic. Regarding him fishing the island personally I don't see the big issue as others have done since and before. What I find interesting is how a guy is getting villified for it, I remember when kev Hewitt caught kempies, I was on the lake before and during that time, I read his write up where he said he walked the lake and fancied willow but the angler was staying for a few days so decided to fish car park swim, when the facts are the car park swim was closed for days before and primed ready... How often can you walk past that swim and it be empty ffs, then there's good old darrell peck, unbelievably walks straight into point one swim on kingfisher at bluebell, ends up catching a few and making out how good he is, when the facts are the swim was occupied for 3 nights before by a mate of his who didn't fish it and pre baited the swim for him... My mate was sat on the bog when peck arrived and overheard him checking in at the office saying here for filming on kingfisher, the guy goes the swim is ready. On insta his runner even said glad the pre baiting sorked, we outed him and funny enough we got blocked and all the comments including his runners was deleted...
Still gotta catch them but most of these guys are full of it and get privileges we don't, if they were honest I'd respect them but hey ain't, at least Ellis told us how it was no matter if he is a bit of a knob
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In reply to Post #380
If he is to be believed he didn't break the rules. The island was used years ago the scaffold poles I would think are the remains of a bridge. The path on the island was clearly used for a long time and well established. He just saw an opportunity and made the most of it. He told several other anglers what he was doing , including some well known names. None of them said " your out of order and shouldn't be doing that". The head bailiff has NOW declared the island out of bounds, therefore it wasn't before. Good opportunist angling. Shame the B.C will be harder to catch in future due to another section of the lake now out of bounds.
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In reply to Post #379
Can’t understand how many people think it was good angling.... he might be a very good angler but he broke the rules however you look at it.....if he did the same on your water then publicity admitted it and called you all for being gutless because you stuck to the rules I doubt you would think the same.
Catching any fish by breaking the rules in NOT good angling.....
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In reply to Post #378
For me his personality should be irrelevant, the capture and angling is what's important. Like J.S. he's not everyone's cup of tea. Including me. However it has to be said both of them do catch a lot of fish.
I wonder if the sales of cell have increased in the last couple of months.
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Comes over as a prize ***** but a top bit of angling in my eyes....
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In reply to Post #376
I watched it and really enjoyed it - great length video of a seriously good campaign. For the record I also think it’s good angling and a merited capture.
The only thing that I didn’t particularly like was the forced drama. In the lead up there was mention of “burying” and “burning” people in a no-holds-barred account. The only “drama” I saw was some bloke shouted at him to get off an Island I didn’t think it added anything to the video, for me, in fact detracted from it. Now if there was real drama bring it on, but for me I didn’t see it. Storm in a tea cup springs to mind.
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After seeing the “party” after on social media looks like hell on earth.
Shame that carp fishing has come to this...
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In reply to Post #358
But it is great when it does.......   
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In reply to Post #373
Well said
Lock it up
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In reply to Post #370
Good angle to look at it from mate - never thought about that and never a truer word said.
The prat going on about headbutting people, lets hope he can carry that through when some hairy arsed angler comes knocking on his door. Do we really need this crap in angling - what happened to some cracking footage of the fish and if you ain't got nothing nice to say, keep your trap shut rather than ridiculing and painting a picture that the syndicate is full of green eyed monsters (whatever the **** that means). I can guarantee that isn't the case, most of the blokes i have met on vetted syndicates are decent blokes that just crack on with their bit of fishing.
Fair to the guy for catching the fish but for me, none of it sits right. He is obviously after some form of high recognition or maybe thinks that he can be elevated to the respect levels of TH, DL, SA and the like or maybe after some coin e.t.c....i have no idea as the motivators for the guys i know that go fishing is to just get out there in the fresh air and enjoy your angling. I personally would take anything that guy says with a pinch of salt as i can guarantee the "alleged" story he put out there is total crap....don't let the truth get in the way of a good story eh..
My opinions have changed on a lot of these so called high profiled angler, i personally think they have had their day and people have seen through the bull**** that is rammed down social media to the normal angler with a family/work e.t.c. TH and a few others still have my respect, TH will pop up in a few months with his ESP fireside chat but apart from that he is pretty much off the radar.
 Cheers for reading the essay, sat in my van having a tea break with 20 mins to spare.
Be lucky you crazy cats.
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you can see some of the comments his getting on social media what sort of people look upto him, and it that attitude spills over on the bank then god help us
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In reply to Post #370
Well potentially yes, younger anglers can be impressionable. They watch someone like this, then think that's the way to behave on the bank
Exactly that for me, and I would not just say younger anglers either
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In reply to Post #369
Not sure what he's like in real life but on his vlog he comes across as a complete moron. Zero class. Does he affect my fishing? Well potentially yes, younger anglers can be impressionable. They watch someone like this, then think that's the way to behave on the bank. A young lad has joined my syndicate recently and seems to have upset most of the members within the space of a month! Not by catching loads or more than others but just his general attitude.
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In reply to Post #329
Reading most of these threads been out of the game for 5 years what have carp angling come to it's that much bitching going on its unreal so what he caught his target fish is there any video evidence of him fishing the out of bounds its people are just jealous
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In reply to Post #367
Hardest part today? Getting the ticket for the venue at the right time and probably for the working family man justifying the cost in money and time. Better not to get wrapped up in the big fish cercuit waters.
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In reply to Post #366
I think for a working man targeting “the fish” is not the thing to do unless your job lets you have plenty of time on your hands, self employed, shifts etc. No brainier for me, when I used to work shifts I was catching 4, 5 times more than I do now, I was out most of the time. I have never gone with the intention of catching one single fish, I always go with the intention of catching fish and sticking the odds in my favour. Some come along, some don’t. If you see the fish and learn it’s habits in the meantime then you go for it or move on to it, that’s a no brainier though I guess, putting the odds in your favour
If the truth be know there are not a lot of other anglers who don’t target one specific fish, they fish the waters where said fish lives and hope it comes along
My observations over the years though, carpfishing is in a completely different place now and it is much easier to catch even if you don’t have much idea what you are doing, shop bought rigs, all legered and top quality baits available to all, sit a group of anglers round a pond for long enough, it will happen for somebody
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In reply to Post #363
The mentality to do it time, after time, after time again is what sets the one or two apart from the masses... I've done the whole "target one individual fish" thing once, and I wouldn't do it again... Two reasons - one of which is a lack of time to do longer sessions... The other is the strain it takes upon other areas of life... Different if you are paid to do it, but even then it takes a LOT of mental strength at times... Very easy to get lazy and go stale if time is of no object...
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In reply to Post #337
Having watched the vid all I can say is bloody well done. Just seeing that fish put a smile on my face like I wouldn't have thought possible. What a fish. Size of it's mouth, could eat an Orange whole. Well done Greg.
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In reply to Post #363
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I think it's worth noting though that time alone wont catch you these big fish. It does take a very special kind of person to put mega hours in after a fish and still fish effectively.
What I'm saying is a 5hit angler with all the time in the world will usually fail. Where as a good angler with lots of time will, usually - not always, succeed.
But obviously having lots of time is a massive edge, but you have to know how to use that time.
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In reply to Post #361
I agree
And you cant catch them all without plenty of time your your hands. This is what people really need to understand
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In reply to Post #360
It can happen both ways, it just depends how honestly the story is told... The difference for me is that the truly great anglers catch the biggest/best fish in each lake they goto, be that in short order or over a longer campaign... You can't fluke them consistently...
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In reply to Post #357
So true
How about, I had been blanking my arse off for months, I saw a fish stick its head out on the other end of the lake, not over my usual heavily baited spot, I walked round, cast out and within half an hour I had it on the bank
Wouldn't sell many papers or create many entertaining videos though
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In reply to Post #358
Yeah agreed, a monumental amount of time, effort and money goes into just about every fish I catch (I don't catch many lol) but I couldn't hand on heart say the bigger ones couldn't have just as easily been smaller ones.
Wasn't it Terry Hearn who'd had just about every fish out of Wasing before the big one he was targeting? So if he struggles to pinpoint a particular fish what hope the rest of us?
As I say I'm not questioning the effort and skill that goes into catching, more the back story that it was that particular fish and only that particular fish they'd set out to catch. It seems to happen an uncanny amount of times on the big ones ime.
This isn't aimed at Greg Ellis by the way it's a general observation.
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In reply to Post #357
In fairness there is a long story to all of my special ones. Let's face it, fluking the biggun out on a pub chuck doesn't happen to us every day.
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Anyone else noticed this tendency for there to be a back story to every big capture?
Usually along the lines of "after months of searching I found that particular fish in 100 acres and did 1000 casts until I found the particular shiny pebble that it likes to feed off. I then spent more months baiting it half a boilie at a time watching it come and go building confidence until I finally hooked it and lost it at the net. But I kept going and found it's new shiny pebble trying 100 different baits until I hit on the one it liked before having to try dozens of rigs until I discovered the one it couldn't eject and finally caught it after the most almighty scrap where it found every weed bed and snag in the lake".
Last time I had a sought after fish I arrived to find matey in the car park cursing whilst he packed up cos he'd been called into work and he told me fish had just started topping like mad in his swim. I hot footed it round chucked out a zig and caught it. Doesn't quite have the same ring tho and wouldn't make a very good advertorial.
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In reply to Post #342
Spot on Andy
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In reply to Post #354
Good point. If you don't want people to comment on your capture don't tell them.
As regards merit what has more merit, dropping a bait and freebies 120+ yards onto the size of a dustbin lid with a boat or doing it by casting and using a throwing stick?
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In reply to Post #336
But there were the morons who knocked it because they used bait boats. Someone catches carp, a load of people take the moral high ground, this is no different.
That will always happen, carp fishing is many different things to many different people so what floats one mans boat sinks another. I guess the difference in this case is how they respond to it. Be prepared to take it on the chin for publishing it or don't bother
There is the underlying truth in every capture that only the angler who caught it knows and people who witnessed it. Whether they decide to tell the truth or not is a completely different story
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Have to chuckle at the people using the old Green eyed monster when anyone has a differing opinion to theirs bit like throwing racist into a conversation to try & shut down debate 😂
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In reply to Post #349
It’s my thread and I’ll post what I like and it’s my opinion.
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In reply to Post #348
No but it’s just my opinion and how I see things.
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In reply to Post #349
I wouldn’t go that far mate.
If I stooped low enough to hook the BC with a bait boat placed rig I’d shake the ****ing thing off at the net 
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In reply to Post #348
Its a mental statement Noj....
Especially on an open forum..
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In reply to Post #346
So you angle with a single rod, parboiled potato and no alarm?
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In reply to Post #338
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In reply to Post #345
I think it does perhaps I’m
Just a traditionalist.
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In reply to Post #344
So using a baiting pole deminishes a capture in your eyes.
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In reply to Post #340
No casting and no bait application .
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In reply to Post #339
I was thinking the very same, don’t think he made many friends on the island this year. But he caught the big one and will no doubt move on next year.
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Seems like he goes out of his way to cause controversy to me , attention seeking , why not just let the rods do the talking without all the hype like our finest anglers in the country do ? He obviously likes the attention , Bit of a 🔔 end if you ask me
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In reply to Post #340
Well all I have to say on the matter is well played Greg top angling only thing I dont like is at end of his YouTube vid how he stooped to the green eyed monsters level he's better than that. Well done brother look forward to seeing your next beast
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In reply to Post #338
Why?
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In reply to Post #327
Dave Lane may be a great angler and a top bloke but he's also been a major stroke puller in his time. The sort of strokes that p*ss other people on the same water right off.
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In reply to Post #336
Bait boats diminish the credibility of a capture in my view. Doesn’t matter who is at the controls.
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Just watched the YouTube video. Kinda confused here. So he does really well. Practically rinses the lake. Let’s other anglers including Lewis Read, etc know what he is doing, With Lewis fishing the Blocks swim so Greg knows it’s safe to fish the Island. Catches the BC, everyone congratulates him, them once dust has settled rips him to shreds.
If he was fishing the OOB area I think the blokes would of said earlier...🤔 So he unofficially allowed to fish it or he was breaking the rules which makes other members liable as they knew as well. The island swim looks well established.
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In reply to Post #327
"I tend to disagree with that. You never hear much about Terry Hearn or Dave Lane, prefect role models for the pastime for me"
Me too.
But there were the morons who knocked it because they used bait boats. Someone catches carp, a load of people take the moral high ground, this is no different.
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In reply to Post #326
I started watching it with the presumption i would last 10 minutes and turn the bellend off. That didn't happen. Aside from the bravado and stab yer granny music i enjoyed the story and to be honest i think he caught it fair and square.
Not sure why he feels the need to publicise all of his fishing exploits and subsequent drama on the tube but thats another question.
Terry Hearn he aint, still clearly a very capable angler.
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In reply to Post #327
Absolutely spot on mate👍
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In reply to Post #330
He is talking about the otters i think mate
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In reply to Post #328
What goes around comes around as they say. Carp wars
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In reply to Post #328
What does he say? I cant turn the vol up in work...
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In reply to Post #328
Been away from carp fishing for 15years as was fed up with the ********, thought I'd dip my toe back in only to find out its got worse !!!
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This is without doubt the greatest moment in carp fishing history ever captured on film
LINK
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In reply to Post #325
the real sad thing in carp fishing is everyone wants to knock you when you do well.
I tend to disagree with that. You never hear much about Terry Hearn or Dave Lane, prefect role models for the pastime for me
How you present yourself is EVERYTHING and if you want to put yourself on a pedestal in search of glory from the rest of the carp fishing world, in the limelight (or any world) you deserve all the flack you get for me. Be normal, respect others and don't be a complete and utter knob is my advice, otherwise you get what you get and deservedly so
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He caught it fairplay to him a 60lb common from the UK big fish circus if that's what floats your boat, sounds like he pulled a few strokes along the way and so long as he's happy with the way he went about, it doesn't bother me in the slightest I'll never fish for it.
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In reply to Post #324
Do you know what, fair play to him, he is what he is and he done well.
As a comparable one of my best mates was the fella who had the 83lber from Wingham, the reason he didn't go public or even claim anything is he couldn't be dealing with all the bitching that went with it. Read this thread and it's totally vindicated - the real sad thing in carp fishing is everyone wants to knock you when you do well.
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In reply to Post #316
It's taken me about 5 'batches' to get through the whole of it. He is obviously a very talented angler, but why all the bravado....why does he want to create a tense atmosphere at Burghfield as he's done on other lakes? Seems he is similar in many regards to Mr Shelley.
And to say he was ready to 'nut someone' then go...really.....??? I wonder if his sponsors want to be associated with that?
Superb fish, and an excellent angler. But not an excellent person.
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In reply to Post #318
Last time I checked,Devlin wasn’t drum & bass
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In reply to Post #321
The guy is the epitome of everything bad in carping 😩
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In reply to Post #320
Not,sure, he has managed to get it fenced though by the sounds of it 
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In reply to Post #319
Didn't he do a charity thing whereby people bidded for a Burghfield ticket?
Who put the highest bid?
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In reply to Post #318
Stay safe mate
Drum and bass, carpfishing
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In reply to Post #317
Fair one Scozza...just made me chuckle listening to it after being at this game like a lot of the guys on here for umpteen years.
Old news now and will soon be replaced with another drum and bass urban angling off the radar classic by a couple of legends that only fish weekends..lol
Be lucky..
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In reply to Post #316
Not watched it mate. Very rare I watch any. I have seen a few decent ones over the years but as soon as they start giving it the big I am. It’s off 
It’s shame that the capture of such a prestige fish is surrounded by all the bull****. Seriously tarnishes the capture for me and the image of carp fishing, a peaceful pastime. Sad really
The era of when the gob ***** entered carp fishing. I can imagine what it’s like 
To be fair he seems to be a very successful angler so other than fame and fortune I cannot see a reason why
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In reply to Post #315
 Comedy Gold isn't it.
I'm a weekend Angler...."got down on Wednesday and done five nights, then managed to get down early Thursday the next week...blah blah...".....weekend angler ..lol
We need a few more "Nige's" thrown in to the next comedy series please...only counted about 2 million Sharpies and other celebrities...lol
What a ****ing card that geezer is...haha...turning up on a syndicate near you armed with a GoPro..
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In reply to Post #310
If he was about success and not popularity, why the YouTube and other social media channels? Surely he would just catch these fish and keep it quiet?
Well said
Lock the thread
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In reply to Post #306
Who was it on here who said carp fishing is the only sport that's a magnet for morons,he's plasterered him self over social media then expect to get shot at
One minute in his company and he would do my head in
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In reply to Post #312
Obvs
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In reply to Post #311
By big common do you mean ‘The 38’, that was 51 and a Mirror?
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I reckon Chris Yates was much the same when he had the big common from Redmire, he just didn't have a vlog.
And he had a beard, obviously.
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In reply to Post #302
If he was about success and not popularity, why the YouTube and other social media channels? Surely he would just catch these fish and keep it quiet?
Tbf I have nothing against the bloke, he is obviously good, but he doesn't have a manner or lifestyle that I relate to personally. Still, people seem to like it/him so fair play.
The only thing that did bother me was the amount of time that fish was out of the water but its a conversation for another day.
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In reply to Post #271
How on earth did you even get to 40 minutes? I fast forwarded for about 30 seconds trying to find something coherent and useful, then an advert came on so I binned it. Tbh it makes me glad I spend most of my time on the river fishing for Barbel, cos this garbage is one of the main reasons I packed in carping 15 years ago and have hardly been since.
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In reply to Post #307
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In reply to Post #306
Jesus Christ is this what carp angling is now?? I’m surprised he didn’t try to give himself a blowie inbetween telling everyone how brilliant he is and how he’s got the better of everyone. What a load of crap. Like the fishing equivalent of eastenders.
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In reply to Post #305
great capture, great fish, but the crap that surrounds modern day carp angling is nothing short of pathetic.
back stabbing, stroke pulling, children crying, beanie wearing hash tagging, attention seeking fools.
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In reply to Post #304
that's a most excellent idea.
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In reply to Post #303
Need to get the "oi, get off that island" geezer on here get his side of the soap story....
We gotta keep miking this chaps..
Quality entertainment.
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In reply to Post #302
Just watched it through again , got to say , sometimes you should "win" with dignity , I know he wants to put his side , but looking back he might see that by hanging out other anglers the story gets lost .
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Did what he had to do to catch a mega fish, his fishing is about success and no popularity.
Fair play to him.
Disappointing to hear the syndicate full of snakes, bitches and moaners. Oh and a thief.... would put me off wanting to fish the water.
Sounds more like a play school, than and exclusive syndicate.
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I really enjoyed the blog tbh, a bit twitchy And all that, but a fantastic achievement and great entertainment.
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Very smart angling and a great capture.
But all the stuff that's gone on since is really depressing, including Greg's video imo. It should have been obvious all along he would get some stick for what he did, you have to take the rough with the smooth. Fair enough make mention of it, but he doesn't half go on.
He took a big risk and it paid off. It could have gone very wrong i.e. he could been banned before the capture and left empty handed. But he called it very right indeed. He's got the pics and he's still got his membership as far as I know.
Fortune favours the brave.
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In reply to Post #286
Why more did not fish that swim , because it is a bit obvious that it was not allowed , or you would not need to carefull about being caught .
TBH I watch his vlogs , but then again I watch a lot of vlogs 😀 , and again TBH if I was head of Avid I'm not so sure I'd be sitting comfortably watching it either .
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Also just watched his video, fair play top dangling
What a fish
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Just watched his latest blog... " well thats cleared that one up then " you've well and truly put that one to bed haven't you..
What ever the circumstances behind the capture. It truly is magnificent achievement. Again well done that man.
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In reply to Post #293
Same thing everywhere he went on the Lee Valley, same on the RK waters. It’s his life but I think he’s missing out on the best bits of angling, it’s not just about the photo album.
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In reply to Post #294
That's a bit unfair, he's probably the nicest 'gangster carper' you'll ever meet.
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In reply to Post #293
Agreed, his sense of entitlement to do whatever he needs to catch the fish is what does it for me.
A bit like an “oooo look at me, im A “famous” angler so I can do what I want” type of vibe.
Just the way it comes across to me in that vlog, not a good look to be fair. No wonder plenty are hating on him if that’s his attitude to other anglers.
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I don’t know about you guys but personally I just couldn’t be arsed with all the hassle and drama that he’s made and been part of just to ensure he caught this fish .
It’s a great achievement don’t get me wrong and an awesome fish but jeez the video was more ‘ look at me I’ve caught the common , stuff you regulars ‘ **** me no wonder the guy is hated when he is splurging all this out on his YouTube vids .
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In reply to Post #291
Seconded
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In reply to Post #286
Yep 👍
I like the blokes vlogs, but this just screams justification. Don’t tell them your name pike. Say nothing
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It is amusing how not too long ago you could be a stroke pulling benefit claimant stoner, yet people wanted your name on their rods and paid good money for books documenting said lifestyle..
Now with social media and the influx of internet constables you can’t even catch one of the most prestigious fish alive around having a job and blow the froth off a few cans with your mates.
I’m sure everyone that hates this bloke, anything remotely associated with Essex or London and practically every angler on b’field can rest assured that they would be equally disliked in return and unwelcome
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In reply to Post #287
Was only 10 months
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In reply to Post #286
Seems like he's put in a decent amount of time over the 2 years he fished burghfield. 3 nights a week through prime bite times March to October... I can't see the problem with what he did, seems like some real haters out there. He put in a huge effort to wade over to the island etc.. in reality if your on a water where the #1 target fish in the country is 》 expect people to be extreme in their approach. I remember on council lakes we used to wait until dusk and inflate a lilo or boat and row rigs over to and underhanging far margin tree at like 65 yards (stupid "yes" / against the rules "maybe" - argument was it was no different than people owning a bait boat ) - that was for scraper 20s in the late 90s. Just let him get on with it.
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Well after watching that I'm more confused than ever before.
He was prepared to take the risk, has more minerals and bigger b#l#o# than anyone else to fish a swim that it's perfectly acceptable to do so? But the bailiff warned him not to get caught.
There had clearly been others coming and going from the island and yet he seemed to think he had some sort of ownership over it and the other guy was wrong for fishing it, even though he had in the past.
And all that from a self proclaimed genius.
If I'm honest it sounds like he just fished well, I'm just a little puzzled why more members didn't fish off such a clearly great swim if it was within the rules?
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Fair play to the guy for putting it all out there. He may not be everyone's cup of tea but hes a ****ing good angler. I say well done to the guy. He did what he believed he had to do and it worked. Good angling imo.
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You just have to look at how clear the path on the island is to realise he isn't the only angler using it.
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Even if this qualifies as stroke pulling I’m sure many of us have seen and heard of way worse.
Well done, fish of a lifetime.
Welcome to the world of modern carp fishing.
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who cares where it was caught from ? its a massive achievement, congrats 👏
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In reply to Post #280
Fair play to him, not everyone’s cup of tea what he’s done or who he is, but I like his enterprise .
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Sounds like a syndicate of snakes
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In reply to Post #278
I don’t doubt that mate
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In reply to Post #277
But you really should watch this, it really is something else, trust me
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In reply to Post #273
Made, me laugh that mate. Similar to me when I have watched some of the stuff, embarrassing springs to mind. Not watched it, no intention to either. Cringeworthy carp fishing nowadays. How did we end up here. One of the finest carp in the country, a survivor, somebody catches this magnificent specimen and a cloud is cast over it
The fish is incredible
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In reply to Post #270
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can see both sides of the coin,to him and his capture, but i strongly believe that he is one of the most talented carpers alive, he can proper catch carp, and i knew he would catch the common, was a bit ropey how he did, but he would have got it one way,
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In reply to Post #273
Jeezz...what was that I just watched.
Is that what Carp angling is now - select few fishing during lockdown and bailiffs knowing about it, the island was out of bounds then it wasn't, a bailiff saying don't get caught WTF.. What was the piece of blokes not having the minerals, the island looked like a comfy swim - must be a reason why guys weren't fishing it prior...
I can only imagine what the average bloke on that syndicate must be thinking if he watches that video. I really couldn't give a monkeys as it doesn't effect me as i'll never fish the place but, I always had Burghfield as a relatively swept up syndicate.....sounds like a complete circus, I wonder if the lake owner watches this and whats his take.
Least it brings closure to this saga. I see that Ben H got a mention as one of the haters lol. Ben is one of the most decent guys out there who is as honest as they come, no green eyed monster stuff with him as he has caught loads of decent fish.
Basically the syndicate is a bunch of noddies and i'm ****ing ace....lol...fair play for blowing your own trumpet..lol..
I thought Oz casted to catch it..... ah well, …...and breathe.
Be lucky.
Jay
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In reply to Post #271
He just waffled on in an unintelligible language for ages, breaking rules,not breaking rules, **** the rules, it’s my year....yadda yadda yadda. Don’t get me wrong seeing the fish on the bank... well worth the effort but the ego and bull****, **** dat man.... I can now see why they wanted to fence it, it’s a special place but not special enough for those that aren’t privy to the ins and outs of it everyday.
Maybe I’m turning into a GOB but the like of this, Ridgemonkey, Fox and Monster Carp are beyond my patience and intellect, I’m a sponge and always have been since the 80’s for all things carp but now... thankfully we have enough choice not to read, watch or listen to some of the “content” produced...
As an aside I would say the care and attention given to the creature by all around is what makes a capture , hushed voices guessing weights, helping out and congratulatory handshakes afterwards.
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In reply to Post #267
Totally agree. Makes me laugh people trying to read dial scales. I've had Fox Digis for 15 years. Not missed a beat. Utterly brilliant.
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In reply to Post #264
Same here , I got to 40 mins and turned it off , what a load of **** he was talking
Polar opposite of a good Terry Hearn video , not for me I’m afraid
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In reply to Post #269
No but I not long ago had a 72 beetle
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In reply to Post #268
On that basis I take it you are still driving a 1975 Ford Escort
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In reply to Post #267
You can’t beat dials, never go wrong. Digital with batteries, personally don’t see the point. More to go wrong
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I just watched it and have to say it was quite entertaining (apart form the music) and fair play to him, rare these days to see someone so modest and humble
Also reaffirms the question for me of why the **** do people still insist on using dial scales, needle bouncing all over the place, when there are perfectly good digital ones available, must be Carpy I suppose
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In reply to Post #264
Currently watching it. He’s talking about fishing from an island that your aloud to fish and breaking no rules but don’t get caught doing it
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In reply to Post #258
I’m 40 minutes in to it and in all honesty I’ve no idea what he’s on about or what’s occurred geez ...The gist of it is, he thought the rules had made the place unfair, so he “bent the rules” to make it fair...The first 5 minutes I thought was a poor, homemade music video for Devlin.
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In reply to Post #259
Certainly a massive achievement and well done to him. Certainly not the best looking common in the uk, plenty of history.
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In reply to Post #258
LOL.
I wonder if he will say he it still fishing Burghfield, until the fence is finished ?
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In reply to Post #260
They've enough for two shiplap panels, nearly there
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Anyone know how much money was raised for the fence ? It’s all gone a bit tumbleweed on that front 😂
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In reply to Post #258
The funniest thing is he thinks people actually care.
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Looks like the truth is out tomorrow on his vlog. He’s also mentioning some haters so a few on here may get a shout out 🤣
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In reply to Post #256
No probs at all mate
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In reply to Post #255
I'm prepared to give the man credit for his achievement without implying it was achieved for anything other than a desire to achieve it, so I guess we have to agree to disagree
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In reply to Post #253
I was making an analogy. Although not totally comparable, the analogy still stands.
I'll repeat it ad nauseam: I think he's used the capture of the common to further his angling status to climb the totem pole.
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Well if Mr Ellis is as much of an egomaniac as some of you are suggesting he will love this thread.... ....
Personally I couldn't care less who caught the fish.
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In reply to Post #246
So you're telling me that you've never heard about some bint being rodded just to climb the corporate ladder, or some shcmo sucking up to the boss who gets that job promotion everyone was after even though he's totally the wrong guy for it? Purlease..
You're talking about the work environment. Greg Ellis works in construction. Carp angling is not his job, it's his passion, just like you, me, and most other guys on here.
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In reply to Post #251
Haha, I see what you did there!
I don’t really care either, but then I keep posting on this thread! Amazing what boredom can do.
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In reply to Post #238
“ it is only achievable through massive determination and drive.”
And may I add , being in the right place at the right time ....
Or is it wrong place at the right time ?
Or maybe the right time in the wrong place 😂
Just a joke btw , I couldn’t really care 2 hoots who catches what tbh
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In reply to Post #247
Similarly, I've never met him or know him, but from the few things I've seen of him, what I suggested in my post you're replying to is the impression I get. But like I said in that post, I hope I'm wrong
No way would I ever belittle his capture of the common, just the means and way it *may* have been caught could be highly questionable. Again, what do I know, its all just speculation, conjecture and hearsay. I wasn't there at the time.
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In reply to Post #247
Bit like getting a lift in a helicopter 😂
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In reply to Post #243
I couldn’t answer that to be fair, I don’t know the guy. Have never met him. All I do know is that he just summited at Everest and yet we are belittling his achievement.. Issues seem to be with the bailiffing rather than the individual involved?
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In reply to Post #244
So you're telling me that you've never heard about some bint being rodded just to climb the corporate ladder, or some shcmo sucking up to the boss who gets that job promotion everyone was after even though he's totally the wrong guy for it? Purlease...
As Machiavelli put to print: the end justifies the means - if you're that way inclined.
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In reply to Post #243
FFS guys, he’s caught the Big Common end of. Quit the bitching and talk about something worthwhile!
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In reply to Post #243
Only in carp angling do those at the top of their game get accused of this. It's ridiculous imo.
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In reply to Post #238
In a parallel universe that might all be true, but the cold, hard reality from what I can make out, and this is only my own opinion is that the pole opposite of what you've said is true.
This guy, catching that common is purely down to exposure and climbing the carp totem pole. You may well find that he isn't welcome at the places you mentioned purely down to his past track record. He's even admitted this himself that certain places he's not welcome.
Maybe I'm totally off the target and I'm completely wrong - I do hope so. With all sincerest intentions, I don't wish him or anyone else any ill feelings and certainly not one ounce of jealousy in respect to was he's had, recently or in the past. Just saying as I see it.
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In reply to Post #240
I'd assume articles for mags and whatnot are currently being produced.
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Tbf Burghfield is poorly run, some anglers allowed to do stuff, then there not, some are allowed to fish from certain areas and some are not, this is not aimed at Greg as I doubt there are many captures of this fish that are straight up legit even if they say they were! It's hard to stop fishing somewhere when you have been allowed to fish their and suddenly your not especially when your catching the commons mates!
Fair play I say
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In reply to Post #237
Yea I didn't word that very well, I meant the aim of not releasing any more than one photo. I appreciate that trying to catch a fish like the BC in order to increase your own exposure would be a bit silly.
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In reply to Post #238
Spot on
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In reply to Post #237
Agreed. You don’t set out to catch a fish like the Burghfield Common in order to profit from it or increase your exposure, although that may prove to be a by product. If that was your aim you would fish Welly, Dinton etc, more productive waters. Most guys fail to catch the common, some really good anglers have failed thus far, it is only achievable through massive determination and drive.
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In reply to Post #236
I'm pretty sure "the aim" was just to catch it lol.
I have no doubt that it'll be all over the media soon enough. I wouldn't have thought Greg will care less about any loss of pulling power.
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In reply to Post #231
Other than that one photo, have any more been released?
If the aim was to promote the fish and make a profit from it, either by way of raising funds for otter herding device (let's face it a 3/4 length is as useful as a chocolate teapot would be on a day like today), or raising the profile of the angler/bait/tackle firms involved then if they leave it much longer it will lose a lot of its pulling power, after all who wants to see a vlog, blog or whatever they are now about a fish caught 6 months ago?
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In reply to Post #230
Hi di hi....
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In reply to Post #233
I had a mate once who pushed himself hard for sponsorships, got quite a few as well, loads of free gear and all he had to to was write a few reports, send in some photos,promote this promote that. In my opinion he ended up fishing for others not for himself, sooner buy what I want from whoever I want.....would not enjoy the pressure of having to catch fish to please others myself even if i was any good.
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So many carpers think it’s relevant to blow smoke up their arse thinking it enhances their profile .
It actually shows them as whores and with little self worth and minuscule credibility .
Why do they think they have arrived when they are prostituting themselves for cash , bait and tackle .
At the end of the day most achieve diddly just an album full of fish that no one really cares about , broken marriages , divorce and most of the time chasing fame broke .
But hey ho perhaps your photos will feed you when your at the end of your worthless life 🤭😂
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In reply to Post #231
Think some little fish was caught somewhere in the country by someone?
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Glad my thread is so popular...... what was it about again ?
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In reply to Post #225
I knew Ruth Madoc?
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In reply to Post #228
Exactly
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In reply to Post #227
Not in my opinion you don't.
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In reply to Post #226
Disagree
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In reply to Post #224
You’re allowed an opinion as long as it follows their narrative!!
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In reply to Post #222
I went to school with a lad who was related to Ruth Ellis...
Just saying
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In reply to Post #223
Personally, I believe the death of forums is partly down to people being told that they are not entitled to an opinion, so they keep their mouth shut and toddle back to facebook.
It's plain to see in the non carp section here with the same group of people banging on about their own politics day in day out regardless of the subject and bringing their own agenda in to almost every thread.
Is that not called having an opinion, the very thing you are talking about
Own agenda I suppose is something else
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In reply to Post #221
Personally, I believe the death of forums is partly down to people being told that they are not entitled to an opinion, so they keep their mouth shut and toddle back to facebook.
Have to agree with that, and would add people who have their own agenda and who think everybody should agree with them and if they don't then start to throw labels at them.
It's plain to see in the non carp section here with the same group of people banging on about their own politics day in day out regardless of the subject and bringing their own agenda in to almost every thread.
It's boring and repetitive and I for one no longer read the non carp unless it's photography or football.
Anyway I am being a bit like them myself now going off subject.
I wouldn't have a clue what this Gregg fellow looks like or the fish he caught but did fish the water in the early 90s, it's wasn't exactly an easy water then, to be honest I preferred the river back in the day, all I can say is good luck to him.
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Is this fella related to Kevin Ellis ?
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In reply to Post #210
Personally, I believe the death of forums is partly down to people being told that they are not entitled to an opinion, so they keep their mouth shut and toddle back to facebook.
Which posts get the most views? These ones probably!
A large thread about how pony Nash Titan Hides are will achieve more interaction from posters than your bog standard "Wots the besht chod hook?"
It engages people in conversation, people talk about remedies, alternatives, and the good old days of when a Fox Evo Brolly stopped them from getting crushed by a flying cow on the Cons during the 87 breeze.
Then, you get those who come onto threads and say "say it to Maddocks Face that his bedchair was ****". It's an attempt to stifle debate IMO and achieves nothing. If an item of tackle is turd according to two posters with a colourful opinion, I would prefer that honest review over a comic that gets paid to advertise sub standand gear.
I also believe that if people who are held to high esteem engages in ****ery on a four figure syndicate, it should be pointed out. After all, people are gonna part with a fiver to see the "exclusive" pictures of Ellis holding the common, and it will no doubt have a diatribe of how the best silicon hook stop on the market was the catalyst to it's capture.
Of course, this is all just an opinion. Back to Facebook...
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In reply to Post #213
Never a truer word!
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In reply to Post #211
I'm repulsed by full turbo powered ego
Not seen him. Nuff said for me
So how, something has gone wrong somewhere along the line, the price of fame?
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In reply to Post #211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQTm6nubfbs
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In reply to Post #214
Apart from the obvious lack of social distancing that the sponsors might not be too keen about.
To be fair though, I like to fish on my own away from anyone else, yet if I’m on a social I don’t mind the beers and a bit of music going, because I’m not really there to focus on fishing. If he’s like it ALL the time then yes it’ll be annoying but a one off social, especially a celebratory one ain’t all bad.
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In reply to Post #215
I also dislike scroungers, and think if you chose to live life on social media you open yourself up to a bit of stick...
Unfortunately opinions are like ********s... everyone has them and we should respect that, no right or wrong opinion.
People think I’m a cock, and they are prob right to be fair 😂
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In reply to Post #211
Everybody has it in them to be a ****, 100%
And thanks for editing a previous post about Neanderthals and evolution so my reply now reads as nonsense
Everyone warms to different characters and I understand that, just doesn’t seem like cricket insulting people behind their back. I find the messiah TH boring and dislike scroungers but I haven’t mentioned it before because what I like is not of interest to anybody else and it’s not fair to give others a preconceived opinion on anything or anyone.
Of course there will always be those in every pastime who think everyone in the public eye is a tosser and would take on 8 blokes with a pint in one hand a kebab in the other
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In reply to Post #213
I've seen it on Insta and it ain't that bad to be honest just a group of lads getting pissed on a planned social, no harm done in my opinion.
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In reply to Post #200
Not seen any footage either, but I’m sure their employers or sponsors wouldn’t be too pleased if they come across on a social media platform in the wrong sort of light. Know what I mean.
A double edged sword is social media.
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In reply to Post #207
A bit harsh on Neanderthals no?
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In reply to Post #210
You may well be right that certain people are being cowardly; just the nature of the human experience mate.
I can only go by what I see; Mr Ellis is the kinda guy I avoid. I'm repulsed by full turbo powered ego. Thing is, what do I know, I've never met him or am likely to meet him. For all I know it could all be just a front - for whatever reason. He might be a top bloke for all I know. Saying all of that, he comes over as a top speed c**t with people I know who have met him saying the same thing.
Maybe our paths will cross and my opinion of him changed. You know what, for all I know, anglers that I've met in the past, they might think I'm a c**t too much like the current opinion I hold of Mr Ellis right now. Maybe we're all c**ts in our own way...
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In reply to Post #208
Ok
I stand by the fact that insulting people anonymously is cowardly and childish. As is the constant tit for tat **** that takes place on here
Adieu
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In reply to Post #208
My thought exactly
If you don’t like other people’s opinion then that’s your right but you seem to care a hell of a lot
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In reply to Post #207
Lol. You're bitching about people bitching. The irony of it.
It's your opinion that people should do x,y and zee, but people airing their opinions wherever doesn't discount their opinions if they don't do as you suggested.
I think Tony Blair is a war criminal with blood on his hands, I'm never likely to meet him, but that doesn't change my opinion of him, you know?
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In reply to Post #206
It needn’t be physical confrontation, just verbal. Don’t see how that is Neanderthal?
Bad mouthing people from the anonymity of a forum is hardly the pinnacle of evolution is it?
Rather than bitch about it I suggest people meet these guys or use their own social media account to make their feelings known personally, rather than bore everybody else with negativity.
I probably dislike 99% of what’s on YouTube and FB, yet I don’t feel it necessary to a) look at it and b) then whine about how I don’t like it.
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In reply to Post #201
Putting aside physical confrontation, if one or more people hold an opinion that person 'x' is a c**k, that doesn't discount that opinion regardless if they don't want to say it to someone's face does it?
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In reply to Post #203
Wouldn’t bother me one bit. Larger and bugle hardly a terrifying thought. I actually enjoyed his vlogs but recently he’s wearing thin on me. Re the capture. He’s most likely selling the story or will have a hell of a lot of watches on his next vlog 😂
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In reply to Post #203
Year fair comment, I followed because I heard him catch it and wanted to see some pictures of it. Those of which haven’t come yet.
Epic fish
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In reply to Post #202
Wouldn’t know mate, I haven’t and don’t intend to watch the videos and find out.
Just don’t find it fair to **** somebody off who’s not around to defend themselves and despite claiming they would, many would shrivel up at the thought of confronting a load of blokes full of lager and bugle
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In reply to Post #201
I’d quite happily say it mate yeah, I’m sure you wouldn’t welcome some of that on the waters you fish
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In reply to Post #199
Any chance of those who seem to despise people they still follow on social media saying some of this stuff to their face?
Talk about bitchiness. Their behaviour doesn’t bother me because I have no desire to watch it. That is always an option if something isn’t to your taste
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I still haven’t seen a proper picture of him holding the burghfield common , which I find a bit weird.
Got to admit, seeing a few of them “names” and the way they act I’m glad I don’t fish burghfield. Seem like proper cocks.
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Any chance of some links to Mr Ellis's behaviour for those that don't frequent those websites
Edit
So I can make up my own mind
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In reply to Post #193
Comes across as a tit doesn’t he 🙈
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Scot Lloyd posted a clip on his Instagram!! There were more names “cough’ than punters doing the walk round 😂😂😂
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In reply to Post #195
Just seen some on Instagram, how the f#£& has carp fishing come to this 🤢🤮
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Jesus Christ... I follow Greg Ellis on Facebook and just watched some of the live streams from the Burghfield weekender... I hope I never have have the misfortune to end up fishing a lake with him on!
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In reply to Post #193
I am coming to the sane conclusion, few of them seem like proper bellends
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Anyone follow Greg’s stories in insta 😂 even more of a bell end than I thought
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In reply to Post #191
£25 for a camo buckler lid and matching spork.
#pukkapies#steakandkidney #chickenandmushroom
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In reply to Post #189
Does that include a complimentary bucket lid to eat them off #ESSENTIAL
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In reply to Post #186
Free cow steroids for all who attend
Your not a carp angler unless your on the decca
Royd rage 
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In reply to Post #187
£4.50 a pot noodle and 6 steak and kidney pies.
#pukka pies #steakandkidney #chickenandmushroom
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In reply to Post #186
Fkn lol
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Anyone know how much was raised for the partial fencing project
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In reply to Post #184
Free cow steroids for all who attend
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So anyways, when's the open rooftop parade? Already sorted out the confetti.
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A true giant amongst anglers...
Bronze statue with a plaque reading: carpus anglus extraordinarus founding member of Carp Lives Matter, petitioned to fence Burghfield gravel pit to save the Burghfield Common one of the largest in the land from otter predation before he successfully caught it.
I'm sure Mr Ellis's acolytes would lay their bodies on the line with only their Avid banksticks at hand to stop the radical fringe's from tearing his statue down.
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In reply to Post #182
😂😂😂😂
#funnyas
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In reply to Post #181
#bigcarpmatter
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In reply to Post #179
Nah, they’d rip it down!
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In reply to Post #179
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What about a bronze statue of Mr Ellis in Parliament Square holding the Burghfield Common?
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In reply to Post #177
Anyone heard ? Ellis had the BC off the island
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In reply to Post #175
I was quite happy fishing my club lake with a couple of mates for a few years then all of a sudden they wanted to set goals, target fish and challenges. To do that meant mostly giving up the club lake and getting serious. It was never the same after that. When I look back I really miss those times, nearly everyone had nicknames, loads of banter, some great laughs. The gear we had was modest as well, 3 of us could go for a weekend in a Ford Escort with a roof rack.
There were bigger fish elsewhere but the club lake was my best time fishing.
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all down to who has what morals..cheat in any sport/hobby then claim fame id say they have no morals.dont know if he broke any rules but coming from slh id say yes
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In reply to Post #172
Don't just narrow it down to this thread
You can say that again
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In reply to Post #167
Roy Keane indeed. Now who's being harsh I'm actually hurt 
I now have a series of questions for you
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This thread is becoming a storm in a very small teacup
Don't just narrow it down to this thread
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In reply to Post #164
Or 31% weren’t caught
I think to be of your mindset is to see fishing as a competition, which I don’t. I could never get annoyed with anyone for catching a fish and/or posting it online because I simply don’t see fishing as a sport or a competition.
If people want to break rules and run the risk of losing their ticket then so be it. I would personally rather not bother so I can relax when I’m fishing and not feel the need to hide.
And to address your point about huge challenge. It’s clearly one of the biggest “challenges” in carp fishing, that’s obvious. It all fades into insignificance though when you compare it to proper sports, holding down a job, being a decent father... etc etc. This thread is becoming a storm in a very small teacup.
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One difference I think we may see is that Mr Ellis strikes me as just maybe being a bit of a media whore so is going to rinse this, previous captors took a pic (or in Laney's case video footage of the actual take) and maybe an article and/or talked on a podcast about it. This is going to be a movie, a book and maybe even a musical when they open up the West End
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In reply to Post #161
Of course there is an element of luck involved in any capture but if you look at the last few captors (which I think are John H, Oz H, Dave L, Scott L , Tom S and Greg E) they are all top, top anglers (no matter what anyone thinks of them). It tends not to be 'lucked'out by your average Joe. You make your own luck to an extent imo.
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In reply to Post #165
Harsh
I'm innocently getting on with being me and you come at me with that. It's like I'm alf inge haaland and you are roy keane...
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Analogies. They rarely work and cause more questions than answers. I keep on telling Mal (not this thread) but he keeps on using them
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In reply to Post #162
In Armstrong’s 7 years at number 1, 69% of all top-10 finishers were confirmed as dopers. This is besides the point though, of course, the book paints a very clear picture that cheating was rife and everyone accepted it, because of the challenge of the race.
I just thought it was an interesting comparison. Perhaps my finishing comment is more applicable.
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In reply to Post #160
Everyone wasn’t doping though. Everyone on certain teams, yes. Other people on other teams, yes. But not everyone, and those doing it clean potentially missed out on wins, prizes, and even whole careers built off that.
That’s the saddest thing about cheating in any sport, the people who miss out. It’s a bit different with fishing as there are no guarantees anyone else would have caught it yet.
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In reply to Post #158
I'm sure they would yonny , they'd probably say luck played no part in it aswell 😁
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In reply to Post #155
Has anyone here done any research on the pre-scandal Tour de France days? There’s a book called the Secret Race and it basically documents how everyone in the race was doping, everyone knew everyone was doping, and therefore in a way it was not considered cheating. The race rules said one thing but the competitors worked within a different set of rules - it was just what was deemed necessary to be able to compete.
My point being, from what I’ve read, Burghfield seems to be the carp fishing equivalent. Yes there are rules, but they’re often bent (and allowed to be) because everyone’s doing it. Ultimately this “anything goes” attitude is probably what’s needed to target and catch that fish, and the majority of the syndicate respects that.
Furthermore... it’s a fish and literally who cares.
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In reply to Post #155
Afternoon Aidey
I'm interested in the comment about writers. Three figures (£100) for a 4 page article doesn't sound extortionate to me - unless I've got it wrong and you are meaning much more? A well written 4 page piece could take a day to write - £100 for a day's work for a 'specialist' (I'm using the term widely) seems more than reasonable to me.
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In reply to Post #157
If it's boring it's not being done right imo.
You try telling anyone that's caught the BC that they bored it out and I'm pretty sure they'd disagree lol.
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In reply to Post #156
It's not really a hardship now is it 🙄
Boring yes , I also think there's far more name's and wanna be named anglers that are thinking of the fame and fortune , albeit a small fortune .
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In reply to Post #155
Imo there is not a carp angler in the country that catches carp like the BC for monetary gain.
Don't get me wrong, they may earn money as a byproduct, but anyone that's ever gone through the hardship of targeting and catching a specific carp will tell you that you don't put yourself through that unless you truly love it.
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In reply to Post #154
Stroke pulling occurs everywhere, and is done by many in different guises. There is a line in the sand and some things are deemed to be OK to go over that line, others are not. On my water, Fishing gaps in the reeds is OK, cutting out swims is not. Fishing every tiger nut marketed product is OK, but don't put a tiger nut in it's purest form in the water. You must use "specimen" gear if fishing for specimens. Well, my landing net isn't 42', I use a rigid frame 32 to land fish in front of the pads in certain swims. That is for the fishes benefit and a blind eye is turned to that. Braid is not allowed, but some will use it Pike fishing due to the improved bite sensitivity, which stops deep hooked Pike.
My only issue with any episode like this is when it's done for an advantage which is going to result in some form of monetary gain. Many say this does not effect us, however I'd argue in the long run it does. These captures cost money in consultant wages, magazine articles and price hikes on tackle. Some writers are getting into three figures for a four page feature article, and people wonder why they're paying over a fiver for magazines.
Not exactly the same, but using Keebs example, image spending years training for a cycling event. You do things clean. Matey over there is in the same race, but he is using a substance which is not yet traceable by testing, and it doesn't come out til years later when matey admits he was on it prior to it's banning. How would you feel? It is not a level playing field. It's not 11 Vs 11. It's not two fighters of the same weight in the cage, it's not a bunch of four legged dogs on a track. There is underhand shenanigans, yet to some, it's kosher....until it effects them.
On a water near me, one silly sausage put articles out about fishing at range with tapered line and publicised the captures. Instant ban. He kept it quiet funnily enough, merely saying that it was "circumstances out of his control" or something like that. It's hilarious
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Been a stroke pullers water for years.
Two respected anglers I know we're on there 4/5 years ago and could not compete due to the constant and blatant rule breaking, particularly by 2 very well known high-profile Carpers. They made their feelings known, were ignored so made the decision to leave.
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In reply to Post #147
Yes, pretty sensible rules. Lots of them, but all seem reasonable on a quick read through. Boating and swimming are banned. I wonder how he got to the island in question while staying within the rules? I doubt Mainline stumped up for a helicopter...
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**** me are people still talking about this........it’s a fish FFS....... 
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In reply to Post #150
Good un that
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Rumour has it that the otter fence has been cancelled & the money is now going to be put towards fencing off the islands 😉
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In reply to Post #148
So he preferred using a bait boat to a couple of casting lessons then?
In all seriousness I am not bitter about the capture at all, it makes no difference to me whatsoever, but as I have said before I do feel sorry for the other members IF it was caught by underhand methods.
I can imagine some feeling very hard done by if they are putting in loads of time trying to outwit that fish on one of the occasions it ventures into a fishable swim only to find that someone catches it from an out of bounds area.
As has also been pointed out allowing certain anglers to break the rules (if that is what has happened here) is a very slippery slope to go down when running a fishery.
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In reply to Post #146
Yes Terry used a bb so he could fish the same spot as he fished from near the
old clubhouse, but the new swim was 160 yards. So he could not cast it. And yes bb’s were allowed
Terry does not hide from the fact he used a bait boat as he explains it all in the talks he has done at the shows
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In reply to Post #146
If anyone really is that interested in the rules, out of bounds areas etc just go onto the Advanced Angling website and have a read. They are a very open about their 4 fisheries and have very sensible rules.
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In reply to Post #134
Pretty sure Terry used a bb to present the bait on a spot that couldn't be cast too?
So did Scott Lloyd as far as I am aware but they were allowed on there weren't they?
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In reply to Post #144
Not even close.
Half the guys on here are saying well done.
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In reply to Post #143
I have a question.............. Is this the bitterest thread in Carpforum history?
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In reply to Post #141
Didn’t TH get permission to use the old clubhouses to store kit and use the facilities behind a few swims
Yes he did, Tel, Nigel Sharp, Ev and a couple of others, did have use of that old clubhouse until the heath and safety brigade came down for a building inspection, and found that building had a asbestos roof.
That was the end of it. No one could use it after that..
I think they all had Cemex coverall tickets at the time, which may have helped get permission from Ian Welch
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In reply to Post #132
The guy caught the BC and dependant on where your own ethics sit as a carp angler will justify if you think it was caught fair and square or caught from an island that covers a piece of water that hasn’t been fished before and the fish shoal up for safety. For me personally it’s a stain on the captures of the BC and cannot be related to the likes of TH, Laney, Oz, John Holt and the rest of the guys that caught it. There is no story or build up.
But that is exactly how Laney caught it - he got permission to cut and fish a swim that was previously not accessible. First session whallop, BC. Very well done too.
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In reply to Post #134
Didn’t TH get permission to use the old clubhouses to store kit and use the facilities behind a few swims. Didn’t catch the BC from that area but caught just about everything else. Don’t ask, don’t get.
I tell you which post did get swept under the carpet, and it’s the one asking if anyone’s seen any other pictures of the capture apart from the side on one. Be nice to see the whole fish. I’m sure they are being reserved media articles or whatever but I’m sure we’d all like to see them.
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is it a bit like this....?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccNkksrfls - hand of god?
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Forgive me and i dont know the full story but reading between the lines..
...If he has had permission to fish where he did by the powers that be and been in dialogue to fish there with their consent then fair play to the fella. Who knows what he has done behind the scenes to earn that chance.
it wont be the first time someone has 'earned a better chance' to catch a target fish by playing smart to which the same oportunities may have been availble to anyone astute enough to act? (Tataon ommon par chance?)
End of the day this amazing fish is in his memories and in his album gents.... 
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Didn’t Tel catch it 10 Yards or so from the edge.
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In reply to Post #135
Some had permission.
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In reply to Post #134
You're right about TH if my memory is correct.
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In reply to Post #56
Funny how that post virtually got swept under the carpet lol
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In reply to Post #132
Sorry Jay but didn't Laney cut his own swim to fish a spot that wasn't accessible from any of the official swims and use a bb to bait up? Pretty sure Terry used a bb to present the bait on a spot that couldn't be cast too?
#pukkapies #steakandkidney #chickenandmushroom
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In reply to Post #132
Spot on mate, no juiced up second hand Range Rover drivers on my water either.
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In reply to Post #131
The guy caught the BC and dependant on where your own ethics sit as a carp angler will justify if you think it was caught fair and square or caught from an island that covers a piece of water that hasn’t been fished before and the fish shoal up for safety. For me personally it’s a stain on the captures of the BC and cannot be related to the likes of TH, Laney, Oz, John Holt and the rest of the guys that caught it. There is no story or build up.
Having spoken to a few of the guys that fish there, don’t you think they would have been in there like a shot if they knew fishing was allowed - apparently anglers used to feed the fish in the out of bounds and they see the majority of the stock in there all the time.
Each to there own I suppose. Thank **** I’m on a decent syndicate with a good crew of blokes - any of that crap going on and they would be out the gate.
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In reply to Post #130
“ We all know that they are easier to catch in an out of bounds areas, than the legal fishing areas. “
Apparently not , if you read through some posts
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In reply to Post #129
Don't know the bloke, IF he has caught it fair and square, it's a great result.
But alI I would like to know if it was caught from an area that all the other paying and rule abiding members could equally fish from without breaking the rules.
We all know that they are easier to catch in an out of bounds areas, than the legal fishing areas.
So is the rest of the lake and islands fishable as long as you get permission from a bailiff ?
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In reply to Post #128
This is true lol. Moan about someone catching a fish that every carp angler on the planet would love to catch, and barely any will ever fish for.. Everyone pulls a stroke sometimes, maybe not in angling but they do in one way or another....
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In reply to Post #127
The reason is they have **** all better to moan about lol.
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In reply to Post #125
Agreed, lots of sour grapes on here for whatever reason
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In reply to Post #120
Modern carp fishing in a nutshell this post.
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Class fish, one of the very best. Very well done to the captor.
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In reply to Post #123
Is it true that he caught it from Greg’s swim from Ellis’s island?
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In reply to Post #122
Apparently its being renamed Gregs Fish, and the man is ok with that...
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In reply to Post #100
Bit extreme Wayne but I understand your point. Man has health issues because a bloke he has never met caught a fish he has never seen from a water 500 miles away
End of the day he has caught it rightly or wrongly
To be fair he sounds like a decent angler with a track record so either way, he has caught it
See, the other problem is social media and fame seeking and that’s where it all goes totally wrong
Gone are the days where you had a bit of a result and put it in a paper, and if you deserved it, rightly so, enjoy your moment, that’s what it’s all about. See, social media works both ways, there’s people doing self promotion trying to be famous but the difference to a paper is there is feedback and what rocks one mans boat definitely turns another’s
A picture does not always tell the true story either, so nobody REALLY knows what has gone off behind the scenes of a capture, you can only see what you can see 
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In reply to Post #120
Anyone seen any proper pictures of Greg and the BC yet?
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In reply to Post #119
Alll sounds a bit too contrived, put up an otter fence charity, let one of your members fish one of the islands, catch the fish everyone wants to see in the press, sit back and milk it........
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In reply to Post #105
Nothing will be out unless the big money sponsor approved interviews and articles, etc, are signed on the dotted line I’m sure,
Catching the BC can, if you are after it.... give you both opportunity and could earn you silly 💰 money
Or just carry fishing for yourself and under the radar like some previous captors have
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I’m no fan of Greg Ellis, but if all he’s done is had the savvy to push his luck and ask the bailiff to fish somewhere everyone else just accepts they can’t then, providing he was allowed, then you can’t knock him. Smart angling.
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In reply to Post #116
Well Done Greg!
Let the haters hate, the knockers knock!
Life’s too short for all the negativity.
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In reply to Post #114
As far as I know, no rules were broken as he was given permission by bailiffs to fish that swim. The fact that nobody else was is a bone of contention to other syndicate members, which I quite understand. Remember, this fish only comes out every couple of years.....that could be it for a while after this capture.
The bloke still had to catch the fish so hats off to him, but I do get the anger.
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In reply to Post #1
There are so many conflicting stories going round as there is a big Facebook post with Lewis from gardner saying he was there and no rules was broken and then another post saying he has broke rules..
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In reply to Post #104
Very well put.
I think I'd say that the moral standards are brought by the the angler to the venue (it's not the fishing that makes someone cheat, he already had that personality) but I do see what you mean. It sets the wrong example and as defiant points out can have a knock on effect.
Maybe karma will get to him (if he has cheated) and other venues with big fish won't let him join.... that's the thing with publicity if you aren't squeaky clean I guess.
As I said, at least the fish seems to have been returned safely.
I do think - from what I've read here about bailiffs turning a blind eye etc. - that it's just a publicity stunt. A photo or three of the big fish is a much more appealing way to get interest in the fence thing.
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In reply to Post #109
Great fish . One of the best in the land.
Great angling .
Well earned .
Fairplay that man !!
👍🏻🎣
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On a place as high profile as Burghfield, with so many out of bounds areas, that are strictly enforced due to the sailing club and residents that could pull the rug from under the syndicate easily, I just cant see any bailiffs turning a blind eye. If they have, they really are taking the **** out of the members as they are risking permission to fish - the only fence going up then will be one to prevent the guesting brigade, right yeah
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In reply to Post #104
Spot on Paul
It really does only take the selfish self-centred actions of one moron to ruin it for everybody - just about to be on the receiving end of one *****s actions! On a water I've fished for over 20 years, with no issues at all - now thanks to the actions of ONE new member it looks like Night fishing and Carp Anglers are getting banned
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In reply to Post #101
'The fish won't know an out of bounds area from not'. I think most would dispute this.
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In reply to Post #105
Carpbourne come on mate they can make the video to portray any situation or location they want, careful editing only very few people would have a clue on the exact location.
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In reply to Post #104
Excellent post Paul 👍
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In reply to Post #104
Surely if there was any doubt it will be cleared up by the upcoming vlog / bait adverts / tackle advert / video . Because if I was sponsored by companies I would not want to bring them any negative fallout . Time will tell , but with the carp network and social media I'm surprised the full story is not out there already .
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In reply to Post #101
Maybe I'm old fashioned ?
Fair play
respect for the rules or equal treatment of all concerned.
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In reply to Post #101
Enjoy it. It's better than golf ffs
Sacrilege to say such a thing!
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Bloody hell
Let's hope we never win the World Cup again if this is the response that we can expect. It's not a proper World Cup because they used VAR / it was penalties / they didn't kick the sh*t out of each other like souness used to.... etc.
If the lad caught the fish safely and it's been returned healthy for others to do the same then fair enough. The fish won't know an out of bounds area from not. They're fish and will eat when and where they can. If some people have decided an island is out of bounds then that's their worry and if they choose to let someone then fish it that's also their worry.
The whole episode does strike me as an opportunist publicity stunt given the recent fence farce, but if the big fish is ok then live and let live. As Said, maybe I'm a bit cynical.
Don't always agree with Wayne, but I'm with him on this - it's just fishing at the end of the day. Enjoy it. It's better than golf ffs
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In reply to Post #79
The ONLY person he needs to convince is himself and if he can look in the mirror in 20 years time and put his hand on his heart and know he truly deserved it, and it was caught with skill and honesty, no lying, that’s it. If there’s a tiny bit missing, only he will know that and he has to live with it
See that right there is the problem with carping nowadays Scozza IMO.........just go fishing, forget the lbs and ozs, forget the fishing a swim others don’t agree with, just go fishing and enjoy........won’t be long before someone has a stroke worrying about he did this, he did that to catch a mud pig!!
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In reply to Post #69
It doesn't matter to me one iota, however what's. the point of having rules if bailiffs aren't bothering to enforce them. Wouldn't happen on my club that's for sure.
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In reply to Post #96
A bailiff that turned a bling eye, apparently.
#pukka pies #steakandkidney #chickenandmushroom.
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In reply to Post #95
Maybe, maybe not..... Time will tell, hopefully more Burghfield syndicate members will confirm the circumstances.
In this current climate of carp fishing, to achieve catching your own personal target or best / online social media fame / keep sponsors happy nothing surprises me TBH.
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In reply to Post #93
Who's to say they didn't? Surely someone would have seen him?
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In reply to Post #94
Maybe he's a big fan of Mr Lane and Hearn and combined their methods to bag it, lol.
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In reply to Post #93
like the sonning eye ( island ) stroke pulling you mean
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In reply to Post #92
Only if they knew he was there?
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In reply to Post #88
Surely they would have been kicking off before he'd actually caught it if they were that bothered about him fishing somewhere he shouldn't? If they've let him be then they can't really complain imo
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In reply to Post #88
Big clanger... What is fact or speculation about the capture ? good fair angling or blatant catch at all costs p*ss take.
I would believe your mate who is a Burghfield syndicate member as he was there, say it was caught off an out of bounds island.
and yet Jez said on post 85 is saying it was caught in a legit fishing area and without a bait boat.
Can someone who was there, verify this for the benefit of this post ?
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In reply to Post #88
Sorry mate I misread, thought you were on there
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In reply to Post #87
Like I said mate was there when it was caught & he told me that they have cooped the hump !! Being a syndi member himself he wasn’t very impressed 😂
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In reply to Post #83
How about you mate?
I know you said they have the hump but has anybody said anything?
I know a lot of bitching goes on on lots of syndicates but always thought places like burghfield, given the magnitude of the challenge, nobody would be backwards in coming forwards
Or is Greg a bit tasty
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In reply to Post #85
So the islands are ok to fish ?
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Evening All.... just thought I'd let you know that Greg caught the fish fairly and squarely without a bait boat and nowhere near any out of bounds areas.
Great capture, great fish and Top top Angler 
PS missed it again by 2 days!
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In reply to Post #83
Of course they have, wouldn't all of us? Well maybe with the exception of those on here that have said they would be quite happy with someone breaking the rules they have to abide to and catching the fish they are all after.
I'm guessing those that are saying fair play to him and it doesn't matter if he broke the rules and fished out of bounds are the sort of guys you wouldn't want on your syndicate.
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In reply to Post #76
Apparently they’ve all copped the hump
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In reply to Post #80
Well, if it’s definitely out of bounds and I was fishing it I would be well pissed off. One rule for all, that’s what’s fair
And as for fishing an out of bounds, which no doubt attracts the fish like magnets, ie. no pressure is not fair play. Unless everybody can fish there, then it is
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In reply to Post #79
Fair one Scozza...thtas what it boils down to I suppose.
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In reply to Post #78
I'm not saying that mate. But, nobody has piped up that fishes the place so I suppose they are happy with it and the way it was caught.
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In reply to Post #75
Reflecting on what has been said and the facts as they seem, seems a lot of sense to me.
The ONLY person he needs to convince is himself and if he can look in the mirror in 20 years time and put his hand on his heart and know he truly deserved it, and it was caught with skill and honesty, no lying, that’s it. If there’s a tiny bit missing, only he will know that and he has to live with it
In the meantime 
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In reply to Post #77
Yeah, i bet everyone of them was on the island wishing him well, ffs.
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In reply to Post #76
Fair one Noj - if the syndicate members are happy with it, everything else is irrelevant. Never really looked at it that way.
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In reply to Post #72
Anyone on there unhappy with it mate?
If so did anybody say anything to him or the bailiff?
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In reply to Post #72
If that's the case - in my opinion it's a massive piss take and whoever runs that water needs to get a grip. People on here comparing it to the Mere ..what are you on about, it's a paying syndicate that sends out rules and swim maps each year warning members that they will be banned if they breach it.
I bet the anglers fishing that place are pissed right off, what a joke. Are they any blokes on here that fish Burghfield that would like to comment.
Ah well, lets wait for the social media onslaught on how a "campaign" was made to catch it and all the other crap that will be wheeled out.
That's me done on the thread - I've said my piece and no doubt others will have there's. I just hope the people that justify this never fish a decent syndicate i am on who think it's acceptable to flout the rules whilst the rest of the guys are keeping everything in a straight line. Whatever happened to etiquette in carp angling.
Be lucky and enjoy your angling
Cheers.
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In reply to Post #72
Well that’s settled it.
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In reply to Post #71
It’s not speculation mate was there when he caught it & no one else has fished off the island 😉
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In reply to Post #68
As said before, seems to be perfect timing with the fencing thing going on. Maybe turned a blind eye because they wanted it caught for the exposure for the fencing cause. Doubt it was just him fishing there if they really wanted it for the publicity.
But as mentioned, do any of us know for sure? It’s all speculation.
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In reply to Post #69
Agreed Noj, some of the comments look like it’s personal to them.......
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In reply to Post #68
If the bailiff knew I don’t see the problem. Just because you see it doesn’t mean you’ll catch it either, reckon a lot of people would be in for a reality check if they set foot on burghfield.
Not defending anybody, just seems a lot of fuss
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In reply to Post #66
He was fishing on one of the islands which is out of bounds no formal permission to do so only the fact that a baliff turned a blind eye as to what he was doing !! The fish are always in the area & the BC is seen there pretty much everyday !! 😉
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Well done captor........who cares about anything else.......
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The vultures never take long to circle in carp fishing.
None of us know the facts and I bet any OOB area has been fished many a time, ‘rules’ mean different things to different people.. Seems the sort to be honest about the circumstances from what I’ve seen this morning though. Had never heard of him before.
Fact is this bloke caught a fish most people wouldn’t even find in a whole season, burghfield ain’t a little manicured hole in the ground.
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If someone has cheated to catch a fish, I’ve always looked at it this way – I actually feel sorry for them, as all they have done is sown a seed in their head for the rest of their life “Would I ever have caught that fish without Cheating?”
It will never be on my conscious, I rather blank than cheat in any way.
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In reply to Post #63
Got to agree with that 👍
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tell you what though.. if he caught it with a bait boat then that really is out if order! may as well delete his pictures
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Maybe the fish is just getting involved with the crowd funding thing for the fence. It realised that it would be a brilliant time to show up and remind folk that it would be a potential huge supper for an otter.
Or is that a bit cynical?
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In reply to Post #57
He has done well on dinton, but there is a beast of an angler on there smashing out a lot more on the quiet.
Sound bloke though, and some mega fish on his cv
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find me a ‘top’ angler who hasn’t pulled some major strokes in their time. Yes annoying no doubt when others on the same water are playing by the rules, but it’s one of the things that sets them apart from other talented anglers. It’s that ruthless streak. Not condoning or condemning it, but yeah if it happened on my water I’d be pissed off. Has anyone got any actual evidence of wrong doing on the BC capture though?
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In reply to Post #57
Yeah iv seen him in vids and comes across as both. Just wondered how that capture was viewed as it’s basically doing what Ellis is being accused off if not worse as it was at night and out of bounds
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In reply to Post #56
The difference between the colnemere fish and the BC is that people are all paying the same money to fish for the BC and expect everyone to be treated the same and to respect the rules. If he broke the rules or was allowed to fish an area that no one else was, then that is sticking two fingers up to the rest. Either from him or those that run the place. To allow someone to fish a previous out of bounds area, where the fish felt safe quite clearly shows that they were desperate for him to catch and publicise the fish. Just my opinion mind.
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In reply to Post #55
He pretty much took Black Swan apart from his first session. Very talented and very likeable angler.
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In reply to Post #55
On the subject of ethics. I know it’s not apples for apples. What are people’s views on the previous activities on Colnemere and the captures of the Black Mirror? Surely that would fall under the headline as out of bounds angling wouldn’t it?
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In reply to Post #54
He got voted carp angler of the year.
Says a lot about the ethics of the carp angling community. Break the law and get one up on the other anglers and everyone licks your ar*e
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In reply to Post #1
What ever happened to myles Gibson after catching the tatton common at night and from an out of bounds area? Apart from the fine?
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In reply to Post #48
He does come across as an absolute bellend. Why people hold these guys up as stars is beyond me.
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I say good luck to anyone who catches there target, no doubt sacrifices have been made to do so.
Let’s share the mans joy
Mega fish
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In reply to Post #46
I love fishing. I really do. It’s got me through some hard times as well as seen me through some good times. But at the end of the day. We just all need to relax from time to time. Smell roses when we can as enjoy ourselves. Life is too short as they say 👍🏻
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In reply to Post #49
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In reply to Post #47
Will do Spin 👍🏻
I am MAN enough to take you advice 🤣
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In reply to Post #45
🙂 👍🏻
Anyway, back on topic, that Ellis fella - what a C...!
LOL 😂
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In reply to Post #44
"If someone does feel the need to slander someone because they are jealous of that person catching a fish, then yes, I do despise that person. I would suggest that they take that negativity and try turn it into a positive somewhere that really matters in life"
Maybe take some of your own medicine?
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In reply to Post #44
I really like the cut of your jib sir
Being the best you is a great motto to live your life by
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In reply to Post #44
That's a fair reply 😁👍
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In reply to Post #43
What I am getting at, is - if someone catching a fish really bothers someone that much. Then it would appear that they don’t have much to worry about in their life. So then, I envy them. Because as a man with a family to provide for, as well as other dependants. Some chap catching a fish is hardly worth getting bent out of shape for.
If someone does feel the need to slander someone because they are jealous of that person catching a fish, then yes, I do despise that person. I would suggest that they take that negativity and try turn it into a positive somewhere that really matters in life.
My moral compass is pretty much governed by my responsibilities and also my mistakes in life. Both of which I have plenty. I’m just trying to be the best version of myself.
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In reply to Post #39
It's ok to feel envy towards some of us because you have no moral compass .
It's not ok to despise us because you have no moral compass ,
This will help you 👍
Can't do links
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In reply to Post #41
We both know who yo were referring too, as for better man ? Don't make me laugh.
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In reply to Post #40
Was not referring about Mr Ellis. Even though there is a high probability he is a better man than me and you 👍🏻
Edit.
My apologies Spinboy. I mis-read. It happens.
If a man whom is better than me gets bent out of shape so much so, because of a fish being caught. Then it is of my opinion that he is missing something in his life. I am sorry if a better man gets distorted of my opinion.
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In reply to Post #39
Envy him, he's a better man than you.
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If some fella who catches a fish from an area of the lake, that he should not fish bothers you - then I genuinely don’t know if I envy you or despise you.
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In reply to Post #34
I can genuinely say I still wouldn’t do it even if give permission as in my own mind it’s an unfair advantage. Now if I caught I’d due to my own hard work or going above and beyond then sweet because everyone else can do that not cos he was given permission to fish a previously out of bounds area. It’s like Dave lane catching it from a freshly cut swim the carp felt safe there
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In reply to Post #35
His mate would hardly say it was caught in an out of bounds area.
My guess is you’ll never really find out if it was or not.
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He has posted a video on his Faceache page of his mate eloquently saying it was not from the out of bounds, the sound is bad though so I couldn't really hear what he was saying (which may be a good thing) and also said himself:
I can confirm it was not out of bounds. Wtf, who even told you this? It was called good angling and doing something different that involved having ********. Every member and his dog can and have fished where I fished but not to the extreme I took it too.
I was here for a good time, not a long time.
Job Done ✅
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In reply to Post #32
I think he was given exclusive permission to fish an out of bounds area. If that’s the case then he has done nothing wrong.....but must leave a sour taste for the rest of the syndicate. Can’t blame the bloke though....who wouldn’t want to fish that swim!?
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THIS is why we need VAR in angling....
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It’s the same with the angler who if you mention his name on here it’s all goes mad who has a cypography slot about ‘guesting’ etc some are fine with it.
For me nah if he caught it from an out of bounds, then that’s not only an insult to the guys who are on there fishing honestly, and to all the previous captors and members who have caught it honestly. However until it’s confirmed it’s all hear say
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Fair play to the chap for catching the fish...but if he had to break the rules to catch the fish then all respect is lost for him.....
I fish for myself and don’t publicise or put any of my captures on social media...i share my photos with the missus cos i get loads of stick off her for blanking all the time.....
The way i see it..when you join to fish a water albeit a club water / limited membership water or syndicate you read the rules for the waters you want to fish...if you don’t want to abide by the rules, think there stupid or unnecessary then don’t join....... if he has caught the fish “illegally’ I would ban him from the water and make it public ally known he caught the fish illegally...
If the fish was caught legallly and within the rules..then a very well done from me
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fair play to him for catching it either out of bounds or not.. could be ottered by winter.. we're all hunters at the end of the day and you cant catch whats not in front of you
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Didn't Dave Lane use a boat on there when they were banned?
If Ellis was the only one on there pulling the odd stroke and I doubt he was. Then it might slightly sour the capture
But then it's only fishing.
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In reply to Post #23
I think that what he has posted, tongue in cheek
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In reply to Post #24
I thought it was obvious
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In reply to Post #20
Whoosh , that's how quickly that went over my head  🙄😂
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In reply to Post #14
Typical low iq response because you have no other argument 😂
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In reply to Post #20
Add an /s at the end of your post and we would have known you were being sarcastic mate
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In reply to Post #17
Lol wot?
No, you'd be a cheat and if found out disqualified.
//Puts on moralising hat
If any of this is true, I can't but help think that these shenanigans are not going to go down too well. Obviously the fanbois will justify it all, no change there then, but for the wider audience and anglers with a shred of integrity and playing by the rulez, coz rulez are rulez and there for a reason after all, I can see him viewed negatively for years to come. Silly really, then again, you catch a bad dose of carp fever and it makes you do all sorts of crazy things.
I'm sure the halfwits out there will claim that others bemoaning such escapades is driven by envy, to me that's just a lame ad hominem and irrelevant.
Let's all hope this was caught legit and it's all a do about nothing.
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In reply to Post #19
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In reply to Post #17
Nice analogy.
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In reply to Post #17
What rubbish , you take a short cut in the tour de France , your banned , even if it's found out years later .
I like Greg's blogs ,what you see is what you get and he can catch em , but if true it's totally disrespectful to the guys that put the time in honestly ,
All this gloryfying of such practices like guesting, fishing reserves etc is a joke imo , catch at any cost 👎
Of course I hope these rumours are not true .
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I believe Simon Scott is fishing an area of the lake that not everyone has access to. I doubt he would come in for as much criticism if he was to land the fish from that area.
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In reply to Post #10
Pretty grim if that's the case and I'd certainly feel for those that have spent months, even years, trying to trip it up in the legal fishing areas. That's carp fishing for you I suppose.
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Good Angling that man. Well deserved capture. If the odd liberty was taken, it wouldn't of been the first would it.
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In reply to Post #13
Just green eyed monters as usual. Well done that man, great capture
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In reply to Post #9
Nothing wrong with Dave Lane’s capture was there ?
I do recall some bull**** about an illegal swim, but he had permission to cut out the swim.
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In reply to Post #1
What a carp
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Maybe it's people s**tbaging him, if true, lol. How gutting catching it all shady and moody from an out of bounds. Don't count so back to the drawing board and catch it properly, without poaching it.
Well dodge.
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In reply to Post #9
Fair one MM, i may have got it mixed up. Good angler is TS, does the business and cracks on keeping himself to himself.
I would just like to get the record straight before it's rammed down our necks on social media. Was it caught in an out of bounds area or not.
I don't fish Burghfield but know a few guys that travel far and wide and put a lot of graft in on that pit. I know for a fact they will be pissed as the area in question is renowned for being a sanctuary for the fish as it's impossible to get a line there from the swims stipulated within the rules. The BC can be spotted in there all the time as it's a known safe zone.
Anyway - time will tell.
Cheers.
JS.
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In reply to Post #7
Nowt wrong with the last capture, Tom Stokes, I think you might mean Dave Lane!
Hope there’s nothing dodgy about Greg’s capture.
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In reply to Post #7
Apparently so the catch at all costs brigade 😂😂😂
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In reply to Post #1
Been mentioned that it was caught off an island in an out of bounds area - if that's the case (sure someone will come along soon and put me straight with the facts) it doesn't count along with the previous capture that was using boats that were also banned.
Hopefully I'm wrong, and I'll be first to stick my hand out, if not, i feel for the other anglers that have just been mugged off (Again).
Apologies for upsetting guys that follow these people like sheep, sometimes the record has to be put straight.
JS
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In reply to Post #3
Great result.
But of course he is going to stay on there until the fence is 100% completed
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On the lake behind burghfield, can hear the celebrations. Fair play to Greg, mega fish
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In reply to Post #3
That was my 1st thought when I saw this on FB earlier
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In reply to Post #1
Does that mean he will now be moving on to waters new so won’t care if it gets fenced or not?
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In reply to Post #1
If so move the fish to a lake with a otter fence problem solved
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I hear on the carpy grapevine Greg has caught the common at over 60lbs. Well done that man top angling.
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