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   Old Thread  #220 10 Aug 2020 at 5.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Never a truer word!
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   Old Thread  #219 9 Aug 2020 at 8.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm repulsed by full turbo powered ego

Not seen him. Nuff said for me

So how, something has gone wrong somewhere along the line, the price of fame?
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   Old Thread  #218 9 Aug 2020 at 7.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQTm6nubfbs

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   Old Thread  #217 9 Aug 2020 at 6.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Apart from the obvious lack of social distancing that the sponsors might not be too keen about.

To be fair though, I like to fish on my own away from anyone else, yet if Iím on a social I donít mind the beers and a bit of music going, because Iím not really there to focus on fishing. If heís like it ALL the time then yes itíll be annoying but a one off social, especially a celebratory one ainít all bad.
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   Old Thread  #216 9 Aug 2020 at 6.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I also dislike scroungers, and think if you chose to live life on social media you open yourself up to a bit of stick...

Unfortunately opinions are like ********s... everyone has them and we should respect that, no right or wrong opinion.

People think Iím a cock, and they are prob right to be fair 😂
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   Old Thread  #215 9 Aug 2020 at 5.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Everybody has it in them to be a ****, 100%
And thanks for editing a previous post about Neanderthals and evolution so my reply now reads as nonsense
Everyone warms to different characters and I understand that, just doesnít seem like cricket insulting people behind their back. I find the messiah TH boring and dislike scroungers but I havenít mentioned it before because what I like is not of interest to anybody else and itís not fair to give others a preconceived opinion on anything or anyone.
Of course there will always be those in every pastime who think everyone in the public eye is a tosser and would take on 8 blokes with a pint in one hand a kebab in the other
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   Old Thread  #214 9 Aug 2020 at 3.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I've seen it on Insta and it ain't that bad to be honest just a group of lads getting pissed on a planned social, no harm done in my opinion.
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   Old Thread  #213 9 Aug 2020 at 3.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not seen any footage either, but Iím sure their employers or sponsors wouldnít be too pleased if they come across on a social media platform in the wrong sort of light. Know what I mean.

A double edged sword is social media.

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   Old Thread  #212 9 Aug 2020 at 2.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A bit harsh on Neanderthals no?
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   Old Thread  #211 9 Aug 2020 at 2.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You may well be right that certain people are being cowardly; just the nature of the human experience mate.

I can only go by what I see; Mr Ellis is the kinda guy I avoid. I'm repulsed by full turbo powered ego. Thing is, what do I know, I've never met him or am likely to meet him. For all I know it could all be just a front - for whatever reason. He might be a top bloke for all I know. Saying all of that, he comes over as a top speed c**t with people I know who have met him saying the same thing.

Maybe our paths will cross and my opinion of him changed. You know what, for all I know, anglers that I've met in the past, they might think I'm a c**t too much like the current opinion I hold of Mr Ellis right now. Maybe we're all c**ts in our own way...

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   Old Thread  #210 9 Aug 2020 at 1.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ok
I stand by the fact that insulting people anonymously is cowardly and childish. As is the constant tit for tat **** that takes place on here
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   Old Thread  #209 9 Aug 2020 at 1.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My thought exactly
If you donít like other peopleís opinion then thatís your right but you seem to care a hell of a lot
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   Old Thread  #208 9 Aug 2020 at 1.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Lol. You're bitching about people bitching. The irony of it.

It's your opinion that people should do x,y and zee, but people airing their opinions wherever doesn't discount their opinions if they don't do as you suggested.

I think Tony Blair is a war criminal with blood on his hands, I'm never likely to meet him, but that doesn't change my opinion of him, you know?
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   Old Thread  #207 9 Aug 2020 at 1.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It neednít be physical confrontation, just verbal. Donít see how that is Neanderthal?
Bad mouthing people from the anonymity of a forum is hardly the pinnacle of evolution is it?
Rather than bitch about it I suggest people meet these guys or use their own social media account to make their feelings known personally, rather than bore everybody else with negativity.
I probably dislike 99% of whatís on YouTube and FB, yet I donít feel it necessary to a) look at it and b) then whine about how I donít like it.
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   Old Thread  #206 9 Aug 2020 at 1.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Putting aside physical confrontation, if one or more people hold an opinion that person 'x' is a c**k, that doesn't discount that opinion regardless if they don't want to say it to someone's face does it?

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   Old Thread  #205 9 Aug 2020 at 1.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wouldnít bother me one bit. Larger and bugle hardly a terrifying thought. I actually enjoyed his vlogs but recently heís wearing thin on me. Re the capture. Heís most likely selling the story or will have a hell of a lot of watches on his next vlog 😂
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   Old Thread  #204 9 Aug 2020 at 12.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Year fair comment, I followed because I heard him catch it and wanted to see some pictures of it. Those of which havenít come yet.

Epic fish
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   Old Thread  #203 9 Aug 2020 at 12.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wouldnít know mate, I havenít and donít intend to watch the videos and find out.
Just donít find it fair to **** somebody off whoís not around to defend themselves and despite claiming they would, many would shrivel up at the thought of confronting a load of blokes full of lager and bugle
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   Old Thread  #202 9 Aug 2020 at 12.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iíd quite happily say it mate yeah, Iím sure you wouldnít welcome some of that on the waters you fish
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   Old Thread  #201 9 Aug 2020 at 12.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Any chance of those who seem to despise people they still follow on social media saying some of this stuff to their face?
Talk about bitchiness. Their behaviour doesnít bother me because I have no desire to watch it. That is always an option if something isnít to your taste
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   Old Thread  #200 9 Aug 2020 at 12.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I still havenít seen a proper picture of him holding the burghfield common , which I find a bit weird.

Got to admit, seeing a few of them ďnamesĒ and the way they act Iím glad I donít fish burghfield. Seem like proper cocks.


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   Old Thread  #199 9 Aug 2020 at 11.53am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Any chance of some links to Mr Ellis's behaviour for those that don't frequent those websites

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So I can make up my own mind
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   Old Thread  #198 9 Aug 2020 at 11.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Comes across as a tit doesnít he 🙈
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   Old Thread  #197 9 Aug 2020 at 9.04am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Scot Lloyd posted a clip on his Instagram!! There were more names ďcoughí than punters doing the walk round 😂😂😂
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   Old Thread  #196 9 Aug 2020 at 8.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just seen some on Instagram, how the f#£& has carp fishing come to this 🤢🤮
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   Old Thread  #195 8 Aug 2020 at 10.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Jesus Christ... I follow Greg Ellis on Facebook and just watched some of the live streams from the Burghfield weekender... I hope I never have have the misfortune to end up fishing a lake with him on!
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   Old Thread  #194 8 Aug 2020 at 9.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I am coming to the sane conclusion, few of them seem like proper bellends
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   Old Thread  #193 8 Aug 2020 at 9.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Anyone follow Gregís stories in insta 😂 even more of a bell end than I thought
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   Old Thread  #192 8 Aug 2020 at 3.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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£25 for a camo buckler lid and matching spork.
#pukkapies#steakandkidney #chickenandmushroom
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Does that include a complimentary bucket lid to eat them off #ESSENTIAL
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   Old Thread  #190 8 Aug 2020 at 11.24am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Free cow steroids for all who attend

Your not a carp angler unless your on the decca

Royd rage

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£4.50 a pot noodle and 6 steak and kidney pies.
#pukka pies #steakandkidney #chickenandmushroom
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   Old Thread  #188 8 Aug 2020 at 10.08am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fkn lol
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   Old Thread  #187 8 Aug 2020 at 10.06am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Anyone know how much was raised for the partial fencing project
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Free cow steroids for all who attend
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   Old Thread  #185 8 Aug 2020 at 9.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
So anyways, when's the open rooftop parade? Already sorted out the confetti.
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A true giant amongst anglers...

Bronze statue with a plaque reading: carpus anglus extraordinarus founding member of Carp Lives Matter, petitioned to fence Burghfield gravel pit to save the Burghfield Common one of the largest in the land from otter predation before he successfully caught it.

I'm sure Mr Ellis's acolytes would lay their bodies on the line with only their Avid banksticks at hand to stop the radical fringe's from tearing his statue down.
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   Old Thread  #183 8 Aug 2020 at 9.23am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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😂😂😂😂
#funnyas
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   Old Thread  #182 8 Aug 2020 at 9.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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#bigcarpmatter
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   Old Thread  #181 8 Aug 2020 at 9.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nah, theyíd rip it down!
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   Old Thread  #179 8 Aug 2020 at 7.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
What about a bronze statue of Mr Ellis in Parliament Square holding the Burghfield Common?
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   Old Thread  #178 6 Aug 2020 at 9.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Anyone heard ? Ellis had the BC off the island
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I was quite happy fishing my club lake with a couple of mates for a few years then all of a sudden they wanted to set goals, target fish and challenges. To do that meant mostly giving up the club lake and getting serious. It was never the same after that. When I look back I really miss those times, nearly everyone had nicknames, loads of banter, some great laughs. The gear we had was modest as well, 3 of us could go for a weekend in a Ford Escort with a roof rack.
There were bigger fish elsewhere but the club lake was my best time fishing.
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   Old Thread  #176 6 Aug 2020 at 5.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
all down to who has what morals..cheat in any sport/hobby then claim fame id say they have no morals.dont know if he broke any rules but coming from slh id say yes
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Don't just narrow it down to this thread

You can say that again
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Roy Keane indeed. Now who's being harsh I'm actually hurt
I now have a series of questions for you
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   Old Thread  #172 6 Aug 2020 at 4.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
This thread is becoming a storm in a very small teacup

Don't just narrow it down to this thread
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Or 31% werenít caught

I think to be of your mindset is to see fishing as a competition, which I donít. I could never get annoyed with anyone for catching a fish and/or posting it online because I simply donít see fishing as a sport or a competition.

If people want to break rules and run the risk of losing their ticket then so be it. I would personally rather not bother so I can relax when Iím fishing and not feel the need to hide.

And to address your point about huge challenge. Itís clearly one of the biggest ďchallengesĒ in carp fishing, thatís obvious. It all fades into insignificance though when you compare it to proper sports, holding down a job, being a decent father... etc etc. This thread is becoming a storm in a very small teacup.
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lol
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One difference I think we may see is that Mr Ellis strikes me as just maybe being a bit of a media whore so is going to rinse this, previous captors took a pic (or in Laney's case video footage of the actual take) and maybe an article and/or talked on a podcast about it. This is going to be a movie, a book and maybe even a musical when they open up the West End
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Of course there is an element of luck involved in any capture but if you look at the last few captors (which I think are John H, Oz H, Dave L, Scott L , Tom S and Greg E) they are all top, top anglers (no matter what anyone thinks of them). It tends not to be 'lucked'out by your average Joe. You make your own luck to an extent imo.
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Harsh


I'm innocently getting on with being me and you come at me with that. It's like I'm alf inge haaland and you are roy keane...

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Analogies. They rarely work and cause more questions than answers. I keep on telling Mal (not this thread) but he keeps on using them
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In Armstrongís 7 years at number 1, 69% of all top-10 finishers were confirmed as dopers. This is besides the point though, of course, the book paints a very clear picture that cheating was rife and everyone accepted it, because of the challenge of the race.

I just thought it was an interesting comparison. Perhaps my finishing comment is more applicable.
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Everyone wasnít doping though. Everyone on certain teams, yes. Other people on other teams, yes. But not everyone, and those doing it clean potentially missed out on wins, prizes, and even whole careers built off that.

Thatís the saddest thing about cheating in any sport, the people who miss out. Itís a bit different with fishing as there are no guarantees anyone else would have caught it yet.
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I'm sure they would yonny , they'd probably say luck played no part in it aswell 😁
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Has anyone here done any research on the pre-scandal Tour de France days? Thereís a book called the Secret Race and it basically documents how everyone in the race was doping, everyone knew everyone was doping, and therefore in a way it was not considered cheating. The race rules said one thing but the competitors worked within a different set of rules - it was just what was deemed necessary to be able to compete.

My point being, from what Iíve read, Burghfield seems to be the carp fishing equivalent. Yes there are rules, but theyíre often bent (and allowed to be) because everyoneís doing it. Ultimately this ďanything goesĒ attitude is probably whatís needed to target and catch that fish, and the majority of the syndicate respects that.

Furthermore... itís a fish and literally who cares.
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   Old Thread  #159 6 Aug 2020 at 12.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Afternoon Aidey

I'm interested in the comment about writers. Three figures (£100) for a 4 page article doesn't sound extortionate to me - unless I've got it wrong and you are meaning much more? A well written 4 page piece could take a day to write - £100 for a day's work for a 'specialist' (I'm using the term widely) seems more than reasonable to me.

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   Old Thread  #158 6 Aug 2020 at 12.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If it's boring it's not being done right imo.

You try telling anyone that's caught the BC that they bored it out and I'm pretty sure they'd disagree lol.
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   Old Thread  #157 6 Aug 2020 at 12.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's not really a hardship now is it 🙄
Boring yes , I also think there's far more name's and wanna be named anglers that are thinking of the fame and fortune , albeit a small fortune .
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   Old Thread  #156 6 Aug 2020 at 12.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Imo there is not a carp angler in the country that catches carp like the BC for monetary gain.
Don't get me wrong, they may earn money as a byproduct, but anyone that's ever gone through the hardship of targeting and catching a specific carp will tell you that you don't put yourself through that unless you truly love it.
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   Old Thread  #155 6 Aug 2020 at 11.54am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Stroke pulling occurs everywhere, and is done by many in different guises. There is a line in the sand and some things are deemed to be OK to go over that line, others are not. On my water, Fishing gaps in the reeds is OK, cutting out swims is not. Fishing every tiger nut marketed product is OK, but don't put a tiger nut in it's purest form in the water. You must use "specimen" gear if fishing for specimens. Well, my landing net isn't 42', I use a rigid frame 32 to land fish in front of the pads in certain swims. That is for the fishes benefit and a blind eye is turned to that. Braid is not allowed, but some will use it Pike fishing due to the improved bite sensitivity, which stops deep hooked Pike.

My only issue with any episode like this is when it's done for an advantage which is going to result in some form of monetary gain. Many say this does not effect us, however I'd argue in the long run it does. These captures cost money in consultant wages, magazine articles and price hikes on tackle. Some writers are getting into three figures for a four page feature article, and people wonder why they're paying over a fiver for magazines.

Not exactly the same, but using Keebs example, image spending years training for a cycling event. You do things clean. Matey over there is in the same race, but he is using a substance which is not yet traceable by testing, and it doesn't come out til years later when matey admits he was on it prior to it's banning. How would you feel? It is not a level playing field. It's not 11 Vs 11. It's not two fighters of the same weight in the cage, it's not a bunch of four legged dogs on a track. There is underhand shenanigans, yet to some, it's kosher....until it effects them.

On a water near me, one silly sausage put articles out about fishing at range with tapered line and publicised the captures. Instant ban. He kept it quiet funnily enough, merely saying that it was "circumstances out of his control" or something like that. It's hilarious
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   Old Thread  #154 6 Aug 2020 at 6.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Been a stroke pullers water for years.

Two respected anglers I know we're on there 4/5 years ago and could not compete due to the constant and blatant rule breaking, particularly by 2 very well known high-profile Carpers. They made their feelings known, were ignored so made the decision to leave.

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Yes, pretty sensible rules. Lots of them, but all seem reasonable on a quick read through. Boating and swimming are banned. I wonder how he got to the island in question while staying within the rules? I doubt Mainline stumped up for a helicopter...
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   Old Thread  #152 5 Aug 2020 at 7.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
**** me are people still talking about this........itís a fish FFS.......
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Good un that
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Rumour has it that the otter fence has been cancelled & the money is now going to be put towards fencing off the islands 😉
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   Old Thread  #149 5 Aug 2020 at 3.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So he preferred using a bait boat to a couple of casting lessons then?

In all seriousness I am not bitter about the capture at all, it makes no difference to me whatsoever, but as I have said before I do feel sorry for the other members IF it was caught by underhand methods.

I can imagine some feeling very hard done by if they are putting in loads of time trying to outwit that fish on one of the occasions it ventures into a fishable swim only to find that someone catches it from an out of bounds area.

As has also been pointed out allowing certain anglers to break the rules (if that is what has happened here) is a very slippery slope to go down when running a fishery.
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   Old Thread  #148 5 Aug 2020 at 3.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes Terry used a bb so he could fish the same spot as he fished from near the
old clubhouse, but the new swim was 160 yards. So he could not cast it. And yes bbís were allowed
Terry does not hide from the fact he used a bait boat as he explains it all in the talks he has done at the shows
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   Old Thread  #147 5 Aug 2020 at 2.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If anyone really is that interested in the rules, out of bounds areas etc just go onto the Advanced Angling website and have a read. They are a very open about their 4 fisheries and have very sensible rules.
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   Old Thread  #146 5 Aug 2020 at 12.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Pretty sure Terry used a bb to present the bait on a spot that couldn't be cast too?

So did Scott Lloyd as far as I am aware but they were allowed on there weren't they?
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   Old Thread  #145 5 Aug 2020 at 12.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not even close.
Half the guys on here are saying well done.
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I have a question.............. Is this the bitterest thread in Carpforum history?
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Didnít TH get permission to use the old clubhouses to store kit and use the facilities behind a few swims

Yes he did, Tel, Nigel Sharp, Ev and a couple of others, did have use of that old clubhouse until the heath and safety brigade came down for a building inspection, and found that building had a asbestos roof.
That was the end of it. No one could use it after that..

I think they all had Cemex coverall tickets at the time, which may have helped get permission from Ian Welch

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   Old Thread  #142 5 Aug 2020 at 8.09am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The guy caught the BC and dependant on where your own ethics sit as a carp angler will justify if you think it was caught fair and square or caught from an island that covers a piece of water that hasnít been fished before and the fish shoal up for safety. For me personally itís a stain on the captures of the BC and cannot be related to the likes of TH, Laney, Oz, John Holt and the rest of the guys that caught it. There is no story or build up.

But that is exactly how Laney caught it - he got permission to cut and fish a swim that was previously not accessible. First session whallop, BC. Very well done too.
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   Old Thread  #141 5 Aug 2020 at 7.05am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Didnít TH get permission to use the old clubhouses to store kit and use the facilities behind a few swims. Didnít catch the BC from that area but caught just about everything else. Donít ask, donít get.

I tell you which post did get swept under the carpet, and itís the one asking if anyoneís seen any other pictures of the capture apart from the side on one. Be nice to see the whole fish. Iím sure they are being reserved media articles or whatever but Iím sure weíd all like to see them.
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   Old Thread  #140 4 Aug 2020 at 11.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
is it a bit like this....?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccNkksrfls - hand of god?

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   Old Thread  #139 4 Aug 2020 at 11.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Forgive me and i dont know the full story but reading between the lines..

...If he has had permission to fish where he did by the powers that be and been in dialogue to fish there with their consent then fair play to the fella. Who knows what he has done behind the scenes to earn that chance.

it wont be the first time someone has 'earned a better chance' to catch a target fish by playing smart to which the same oportunities may have been availble to anyone astute enough to act? (Tataon ommon par chance?)

End of the day this amazing fish is in his memories and in his album gents....
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   Old Thread  #138 4 Aug 2020 at 10.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Didnít Tel catch it 10 Yards or so from the edge.
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   Old Thread  #137 4 Aug 2020 at 10.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Some had permission.
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   Old Thread  #136 4 Aug 2020 at 10.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You're right about TH if my memory is correct.
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   Old Thread  #135 4 Aug 2020 at 10.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Funny how that post virtually got swept under the carpet lol
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   Old Thread  #134 4 Aug 2020 at 10.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry Jay but didn't Laney cut his own swim to fish a spot that wasn't accessible from any of the official swims and use a bb to bait up? Pretty sure Terry used a bb to present the bait on a spot that couldn't be cast too?
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   Old Thread  #133 4 Aug 2020 at 9.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Spot on mate, no juiced up second hand Range Rover drivers on my water either.
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   Old Thread  #132 4 Aug 2020 at 9.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The guy caught the BC and dependant on where your own ethics sit as a carp angler will justify if you think it was caught fair and square or caught from an island that covers a piece of water that hasnít been fished before and the fish shoal up for safety. For me personally itís a stain on the captures of the BC and cannot be related to the likes of TH, Laney, Oz, John Holt and the rest of the guys that caught it. There is no story or build up.

Having spoken to a few of the guys that fish there, donít you think they would have been in there like a shot if they knew fishing was allowed - apparently anglers used to feed the fish in the out of bounds and they see the majority of the stock in there all the time.

Each to there own I suppose. Thank **** Iím on a decent syndicate with a good crew of blokes - any of that crap going on and they would be out the gate.
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   Old Thread  #131 4 Aug 2020 at 8.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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ď We all know that they are easier to catch in an out of bounds areas, than the legal fishing areas. ď

Apparently not , if you read through some posts
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   Old Thread  #130 4 Aug 2020 at 9.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Don't know the bloke, IF he has caught it fair and square, it's a great result.

But alI I would like to know if it was caught from an area that all the other paying and rule abiding members could equally fish from without breaking the rules.

We all know that they are easier to catch in an out of bounds areas, than the legal fishing areas.

So is the rest of the lake and islands fishable as long as you get permission from a bailiff ?

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   Old Thread  #129 4 Aug 2020 at 9.10am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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This is true lol. Moan about someone catching a fish that every carp angler on the planet would love to catch, and barely any will ever fish for.. Everyone pulls a stroke sometimes, maybe not in angling but they do in one way or another....
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   Old Thread  #128 4 Aug 2020 at 9.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The reason is they have **** all better to moan about lol.
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Agreed, lots of sour grapes on here for whatever reason
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Modern carp fishing in a nutshell this post.
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Class fish, one of the very best. Very well done to the captor.
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   Old Thread  #124 4 Aug 2020 at 7.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is it true that he caught it from Gregís swim from Ellisís island?
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Apparently its being renamed Gregs Fish, and the man is ok with that...
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Bit extreme Wayne but I understand your point. Man has health issues because a bloke he has never met caught a fish he has never seen from a water 500 miles away

End of the day he has caught it rightly or wrongly

To be fair he sounds like a decent angler with a track record so either way, he has caught it

See, the other problem is social media and fame seeking and thatís where it all goes totally wrong

Gone are the days where you had a bit of a result and put it in a paper, and if you deserved it, rightly so, enjoy your moment, thatís what itís all about. See, social media works both ways, thereís people doing self promotion trying to be famous but the difference to a paper is there is feedback and what rocks one mans boat definitely turns anotherís

A picture does not always tell the true story either, so nobody REALLY knows what has gone off behind the scenes of a capture, you can only see what you can see
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   Old Thread  #121 3 Aug 2020 at 11.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Anyone seen any proper pictures of Greg and the BC yet?
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Alll sounds a bit too contrived, put up an otter fence charity, let one of your members fish one of the islands, catch the fish everyone wants to see in the press, sit back and milk it........
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Nothing will be out unless the big money sponsor approved interviews and articles, etc, are signed on the dotted line Iím sure,
Catching the BC can, if you are after it.... give you both opportunity and could earn you silly 💰 money

Or just carry fishing for yourself and under the radar like some previous captors have

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Iím no fan of Greg Ellis, but if all heís done is had the savvy to push his luck and ask the bailiff to fish somewhere everyone else just accepts they canít then, providing he was allowed, then you canít knock him. Smart angling.
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Well Done Greg!
Let the haters hate, the knockers knock!
Lifeís too short for all the negativity.
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As far as I know, no rules were broken as he was given permission by bailiffs to fish that swim. The fact that nobody else was is a bone of contention to other syndicate members, which I quite understand. Remember, this fish only comes out every couple of years.....that could be it for a while after this capture.

The bloke still had to catch the fish so hats off to him, but I do get the anger.
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There are so many conflicting stories going round as there is a big Facebook post with Lewis from gardner saying he was there and no rules was broken and then another post saying he has broke rules..
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Very well put.

I think I'd say that the moral standards are brought by the the angler to the venue (it's not the fishing that makes someone cheat, he already had that personality) but I do see what you mean. It sets the wrong example and as defiant points out can have a knock on effect.

Maybe karma will get to him (if he has cheated) and other venues with big fish won't let him join.... that's the thing with publicity if you aren't squeaky clean I guess.

As I said, at least the fish seems to have been returned safely.

I do think - from what I've read here about bailiffs turning a blind eye etc. - that it's just a publicity stunt. A photo or three of the big fish is a much more appealing way to get interest in the fence thing.
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Great fish . One of the best in the land.
Great angling .
Well earned .
Fairplay that man !!

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On a place as high profile as Burghfield, with so many out of bounds areas, that are strictly enforced due to the sailing club and residents that could pull the rug from under the syndicate easily, I just cant see any bailiffs turning a blind eye. If they have, they really are taking the **** out of the members as they are risking permission to fish - the only fence going up then will be one to prevent the guesting brigade, right yeah
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Spot on Paul

It really does only take the selfish self-centred actions of one moron to ruin it for everybody - just about to be on the receiving end of one *****s actions! On a water I've fished for over 20 years, with no issues at all - now thanks to the actions of ONE new member it looks like Night fishing and Carp Anglers are getting banned
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'The fish won't know an out of bounds area from not'. I think most would dispute this.
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Carpbourne come on mate they can make the video to portray any situation or location they want, careful editing only very few people would have a clue on the exact location.
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Excellent post Paul 👍
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Surely if there was any doubt it will be cleared up by the upcoming vlog / bait adverts / tackle advert / video . Because if I was sponsored by companies I would not want to bring them any negative fallout . Time will tell , but with the carp network and social media I'm surprised the full story is not out there already .
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Maybe I'm old fashioned ?
Fair play
respect for the rules or equal treatment of all concerned.

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Enjoy it. It's better than golf ffs


Sacrilege to say such a thing!
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Bloody hell

Let's hope we never win the World Cup again if this is the response that we can expect. It's not a proper World Cup because they used VAR / it was penalties / they didn't kick the sh*t out of each other like souness used to.... etc.

If the lad caught the fish safely and it's been returned healthy for others to do the same then fair enough. The fish won't know an out of bounds area from not. They're fish and will eat when and where they can. If some people have decided an island is out of bounds then that's their worry and if they choose to let someone then fish it that's also their worry.

The whole episode does strike me as an opportunist publicity stunt given the recent fence farce, but if the big fish is ok then live and let live. As Said, maybe I'm a bit cynical.

Don't always agree with Wayne, but I'm with him on this - it's just fishing at the end of the day. Enjoy it. It's better than golf ffs

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The ONLY person he needs to convince is himself and if he can look in the mirror in 20 years time and put his hand on his heart and know he truly deserved it, and it was caught with skill and honesty, no lying, thatís it. If thereís a tiny bit missing, only he will know that and he has to live with it

See that right there is the problem with carping nowadays Scozza IMO.........just go fishing, forget the lbs and ozs, forget the fishing a swim others donít agree with, just go fishing and enjoy........wonít be long before someone has a stroke worrying about he did this, he did that to catch a mud pig!!
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It doesn't matter to me one iota, however what's. the point of having rules if bailiffs aren't bothering to enforce them. Wouldn't happen on my club that's for sure.
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A bailiff that turned a bling eye, apparently.
#pukka pies #steakandkidney #chickenandmushroom.
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Maybe, maybe not..... Time will tell, hopefully more Burghfield syndicate members will confirm the circumstances.

In this current climate of carp fishing, to achieve catching your own personal target or best / online social media fame / keep sponsors happy nothing surprises me TBH.

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Who's to say they didn't? Surely someone would have seen him?
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Maybe he's a big fan of Mr Lane and Hearn and combined their methods to bag it, lol.
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like the sonning eye ( island ) stroke pulling you mean

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Only if they knew he was there?
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Surely they would have been kicking off before he'd actually caught it if they were that bothered about him fishing somewhere he shouldn't? If they've let him be then they can't really complain imo
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Big clanger... What is fact or speculation about the capture ? good fair angling or blatant catch at all costs p*ss take.

I would believe your mate who is a Burghfield syndicate member as he was there, say it was caught off an out of bounds island.

and yet Jez said on post 85 is saying it was caught in a legit fishing area and without a bait boat.

Can someone who was there, verify this for the benefit of this post ?

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Sorry mate I misread, thought you were on there
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Like I said mate was there when it was caught & he told me that they have cooped the hump !! Being a syndi member himself he wasnít very impressed 😂
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How about you mate?
I know you said they have the hump but has anybody said anything?
I know a lot of bitching goes on on lots of syndicates but always thought places like burghfield, given the magnitude of the challenge, nobody would be backwards in coming forwards
Or is Greg a bit tasty
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So the islands are ok to fish ?
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Evening All.... just thought I'd let you know that Greg caught the fish fairly and squarely without a bait boat and nowhere near any out of bounds areas.

Great capture, great fish and Top top Angler

PS missed it again by 2 days!
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Of course they have, wouldn't all of us? Well maybe with the exception of those on here that have said they would be quite happy with someone breaking the rules they have to abide to and catching the fish they are all after.

I'm guessing those that are saying fair play to him and it doesn't matter if he broke the rules and fished out of bounds are the sort of guys you wouldn't want on your syndicate.
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Apparently theyíve all copped the hump
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Well, if itís definitely out of bounds and I was fishing it I would be well pissed off. One rule for all, thatís whatís fair

And as for fishing an out of bounds, which no doubt attracts the fish like magnets, ie. no pressure is not fair play. Unless everybody can fish there, then it is
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Fair one Scozza...thtas what it boils down to I suppose.
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I'm not saying that mate. But, nobody has piped up that fishes the place so I suppose they are happy with it and the way it was caught.
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Reflecting on what has been said and the facts as they seem, seems a lot of sense to me.

The ONLY person he needs to convince is himself and if he can look in the mirror in 20 years time and put his hand on his heart and know he truly deserved it, and it was caught with skill and honesty, no lying, thatís it. If thereís a tiny bit missing, only he will know that and he has to live with it

In the meantime

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Yeah, i bet everyone of them was on the island wishing him well, ffs.
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Fair one Noj - if the syndicate members are happy with it, everything else is irrelevant. Never really looked at it that way.
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Anyone on there unhappy with it mate?
If so did anybody say anything to him or the bailiff?
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If that's the case - in my opinion it's a massive piss take and whoever runs that water needs to get a grip. People on here comparing it to the Mere ..what are you on about, it's a paying syndicate that sends out rules and swim maps each year warning members that they will be banned if they breach it.

I bet the anglers fishing that place are pissed right off, what a joke. Are they any blokes on here that fish Burghfield that would like to comment.

Ah well, lets wait for the social media onslaught on how a "campaign" was made to catch it and all the other crap that will be wheeled out.

That's me done on the thread - I've said my piece and no doubt others will have there's. I just hope the people that justify this never fish a decent syndicate i am on who think it's acceptable to flout the rules whilst the rest of the guys are keeping everything in a straight line. Whatever happened to etiquette in carp angling.

Be lucky and enjoy your angling

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Well thatís settled it.

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Itís not speculation mate was there when he caught it & no one else has fished off the island 😉
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As said before, seems to be perfect timing with the fencing thing going on. Maybe turned a blind eye because they wanted it caught for the exposure for the fencing cause. Doubt it was just him fishing there if they really wanted it for the publicity.

But as mentioned, do any of us know for sure? Itís all speculation.
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Agreed Noj, some of the comments look like itís personal to them.......
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If the bailiff knew I donít see the problem. Just because you see it doesnít mean youíll catch it either, reckon a lot of people would be in for a reality check if they set foot on burghfield.
Not defending anybody, just seems a lot of fuss
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He was fishing on one of the islands which is out of bounds no formal permission to do so only the fact that a baliff turned a blind eye as to what he was doing !! The fish are always in the area & the BC is seen there pretty much everyday !! 😉
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Well done captor........who cares about anything else.......
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The vultures never take long to circle in carp fishing.
None of us know the facts and I bet any OOB area has been fished many a time, Ďrulesí mean different things to different people.. Seems the sort to be honest about the circumstances from what Iíve seen this morning though. Had never heard of him before.
Fact is this bloke caught a fish most people wouldnít even find in a whole season, burghfield ainít a little manicured hole in the ground.
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If someone has cheated to catch a fish, Iíve always looked at it this way Ė I actually feel sorry for them, as all they have done is sown a seed in their head for the rest of their life ďWould I ever have caught that fish without Cheating?Ē

It will never be on my conscious, I rather blank than cheat in any way.
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Got to agree with that 👍
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tell you what though.. if he caught it with a bait boat then that really is out if order! may as well delete his pictures
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Maybe the fish is just getting involved with the crowd funding thing for the fence. It realised that it would be a brilliant time to show up and remind folk that it would be a potential huge supper for an otter.

Or is that a bit cynical?
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He has done well on dinton, but there is a beast of an angler on there smashing out a lot more on the quiet.

Sound bloke though, and some mega fish on his cv
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find me a Ďtopí angler who hasnít pulled some major strokes in their time. Yes annoying no doubt when others on the same water are playing by the rules, but itís one of the things that sets them apart from other talented anglers. Itís that ruthless streak. Not condoning or condemning it, but yeah if it happened on my water Iíd be pissed off. Has anyone got any actual evidence of wrong doing on the BC capture though?
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Yeah iv seen him in vids and comes across as both. Just wondered how that capture was viewed as itís basically doing what Ellis is being accused off if not worse as it was at night and out of bounds
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The difference between the colnemere fish and the BC is that people are all paying the same money to fish for the BC and expect everyone to be treated the same and to respect the rules. If he broke the rules or was allowed to fish an area that no one else was, then that is sticking two fingers up to the rest. Either from him or those that run the place. To allow someone to fish a previous out of bounds area, where the fish felt safe quite clearly shows that they were desperate for him to catch and publicise the fish. Just my opinion mind.
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He pretty much took Black Swan apart from his first session. Very talented and very likeable angler.
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On the subject of ethics. I know itís not apples for apples. What are peopleís views on the previous activities on Colnemere and the captures of the Black Mirror? Surely that would fall under the headline as out of bounds angling wouldnít it?
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He got voted carp angler of the year.

Says a lot about the ethics of the carp angling community. Break the law and get one up on the other anglers and everyone licks your ar*e
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What ever happened to myles Gibson after catching the tatton common at night and from an out of bounds area? Apart from the fine?
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He does come across as an absolute bellend. Why people hold these guys up as stars is beyond me.
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I say good luck to anyone who catches there target, no doubt sacrifices have been made to do so.

Letís share the mans joy

Mega fish
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I love fishing. I really do. Itís got me through some hard times as well as seen me through some good times. But at the end of the day. We just all need to relax from time to time. Smell roses when we can as enjoy ourselves. Life is too short as they say 👍🏻
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Will do Spin 👍🏻
I am MAN enough to take you advice 🤣
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🙂 👍🏻

Anyway, back on topic, that Ellis fella - what a C...!
LOL 😂
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"If someone does feel the need to slander someone because they are jealous of that person catching a fish, then yes, I do despise that person. I would suggest that they take that negativity and try turn it into a positive somewhere that really matters in life"


Maybe take some of your own medicine?
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I really like the cut of your jib sir

Being the best you is a great motto to live your life by
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That's a fair reply 😁👍
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What I am getting at, is - if someone catching a fish really bothers someone that much. Then it would appear that they donít have much to worry about in their life. So then, I envy them. Because as a man with a family to provide for, as well as other dependants. Some chap catching a fish is hardly worth getting bent out of shape for.

If someone does feel the need to slander someone because they are jealous of that person catching a fish, then yes, I do despise that person. I would suggest that they take that negativity and try turn it into a positive somewhere that really matters in life.

My moral compass is pretty much governed by my responsibilities and also my mistakes in life. Both of which I have plenty. Iím just trying to be the best version of myself.
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It's ok to feel envy towards some of us because you have no moral compass .
It's not ok to despise us because you have no moral compass ,
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We both know who yo were referring too, as for better man ? Don't make me laugh.
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Was not referring about Mr Ellis. Even though there is a high probability he is a better man than me and you 👍🏻

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My apologies Spinboy. I mis-read. It happens.
If a man whom is better than me gets bent out of shape so much so, because of a fish being caught. Then it is of my opinion that he is missing something in his life. I am sorry if a better man gets distorted of my opinion.
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   Old Thread  #40 1 Aug 2020 at 10.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Envy him, he's a better man than you.
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   Old Thread  #39 1 Aug 2020 at 9.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
If some fella who catches a fish from an area of the lake, that he should not fish bothers you - then I genuinely donít know if I envy you or despise you.

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   Old Thread  #37 1 Aug 2020 at 5.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can genuinely say I still wouldnít do it even if give permission as in my own mind itís an unfair advantage. Now if I caught Iíd due to my own hard work or going above and beyond then sweet because everyone else can do that not cos he was given permission to fish a previously out of bounds area. Itís like Dave lane catching it from a freshly cut swim the carp felt safe there
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   Old Thread  #36 1 Aug 2020 at 3.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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His mate would hardly say it was caught in an out of bounds area.

My guess is youíll never really find out if it was or not.
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   Old Thread  #35 1 Aug 2020 at 2.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
He has posted a video on his Faceache page of his mate eloquently saying it was not from the out of bounds, the sound is bad though so I couldn't really hear what he was saying (which may be a good thing) and also said himself:

I can confirm it was not out of bounds. Wtf, who even told you this? It was called good angling and doing something different that involved having ********. Every member and his dog can and have fished where I fished but not to the extreme I took it too.
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I think he was given exclusive permission to fish an out of bounds area. If thatís the case then he has done nothing wrong.....but must leave a sour taste for the rest of the syndicate. Canít blame the bloke though....who wouldnít want to fish that swim!?
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   Old Thread  #33 1 Aug 2020 at 2.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
THIS is why we need VAR in angling....




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   Old Thread  #32 1 Aug 2020 at 2.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Itís the same with the angler who if you mention his name on here itís all goes mad who has a cypography slot about Ďguestingí etc some are fine with it.

For me nah if he caught it from an out of bounds, then thatís not only an insult to the guys who are on there fishing honestly, and to all the previous captors and members who have caught it honestly. However until itís confirmed itís all hear say
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Fair play to the chap for catching the fish...but if he had to break the rules to catch the fish then all respect is lost for him.....

I fish for myself and donít publicise or put any of my captures on social media...i share my photos with the missus cos i get loads of stick off her for blanking all the time.....

The way i see it..when you join to fish a water albeit a club water / limited membership water or syndicate you read the rules for the waters you want to fish...if you donít want to abide by the rules, think there stupid or unnecessary then donít join....... if he has caught the fish ďillegallyí I would ban him from the water and make it public ally known he caught the fish illegally...

If the fish was caught legallly and within the rules..then a very well done from me
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fair play to him for catching it either out of bounds or not.. could be ottered by winter.. we're all hunters at the end of the day and you cant catch whats not in front of you
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   Old Thread  #29 1 Aug 2020 at 12.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Didn't Dave Lane use a boat on there when they were banned?

If Ellis was the only one on there pulling the odd stroke and I doubt he was. Then it might slightly sour the capture
But then it's only fishing.
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I think that what he has posted, tongue in cheek
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I thought it was obvious
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Whoosh , that's how quickly that went over my head 🙄😂
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Typical low iq response because you have no other argument 😂
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Add an /s at the end of your post and we would have known you were being sarcastic mate
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Lol wot?

No, you'd be a cheat and if found out disqualified.

//Puts on moralising hat

If any of this is true, I can't but help think that these shenanigans are not going to go down too well. Obviously the fanbois will justify it all, no change there then, but for the wider audience and anglers with a shred of integrity and playing by the rulez, coz rulez are rulez and there for a reason after all, I can see him viewed negatively for years to come. Silly really, then again, you catch a bad dose of carp fever and it makes you do all sorts of crazy things.

I'm sure the halfwits out there will claim that others bemoaning such escapades is driven by envy, to me that's just a lame ad hominem and irrelevant.

Let's all hope this was caught legit and it's all a do about nothing.
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Nice analogy.
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What rubbish , you take a short cut in the tour de France , your banned , even if it's found out years later .
I like Greg's blogs ,what you see is what you get and he can catch em , but if true it's totally disrespectful to the guys that put the time in honestly ,
All this gloryfying of such practices like guesting, fishing reserves etc is a joke imo , catch at any cost 👎
Of course I hope these rumours are not true .
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I believe Simon Scott is fishing an area of the lake that not everyone has access to. I doubt he would come in for as much criticism if he was to land the fish from that area.
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Pretty grim if that's the case and I'd certainly feel for those that have spent months, even years, trying to trip it up in the legal fishing areas. That's carp fishing for you I suppose.



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Good Angling that man. Well deserved capture. If the odd liberty was taken, it wouldn't of been the first would it.
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Just green eyed monters as usual. Well done that man, great capture
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Nothing wrong with Dave Laneís capture was there ?
I do recall some bull**** about an illegal swim, but he had permission to cut out the swim.
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What a carp
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Maybe it's people s**tbaging him, if true, lol. How gutting catching it all shady and moody from an out of bounds. Don't count so back to the drawing board and catch it properly, without poaching it.

Well dodge.
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Fair one MM, i may have got it mixed up. Good angler is TS, does the business and cracks on keeping himself to himself.

I would just like to get the record straight before it's rammed down our necks on social media. Was it caught in an out of bounds area or not.

I don't fish Burghfield but know a few guys that travel far and wide and put a lot of graft in on that pit. I know for a fact they will be pissed as the area in question is renowned for being a sanctuary for the fish as it's impossible to get a line there from the swims stipulated within the rules. The BC can be spotted in there all the time as it's a known safe zone.

Anyway - time will tell.

Cheers.

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Nowt wrong with the last capture, Tom Stokes, I think you might mean Dave Lane!

Hope thereís nothing dodgy about Gregís capture.
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Apparently so the catch at all costs brigade 😂😂😂
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Been mentioned that it was caught off an island in an out of bounds area - if that's the case (sure someone will come along soon and put me straight with the facts) it doesn't count along with the previous capture that was using boats that were also banned.

Hopefully I'm wrong, and I'll be first to stick my hand out, if not, i feel for the other anglers that have just been mugged off (Again).

Apologies for upsetting guys that follow these people like sheep, sometimes the record has to be put straight.


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Great result.
But of course he is going to stay on there until the fence is 100% completed

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On the lake behind burghfield, can hear the celebrations. Fair play to Greg, mega fish
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That was my 1st thought when I saw this on FB earlier
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Does that mean he will now be moving on to waters new so wonít care if it gets fenced or not?
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If so move the fish to a lake with a otter fence problem solved
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I hear on the carpy grapevine Greg has caught the common at over 60lbs. Well done that man top angling.
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