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daytripper
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daytripper
   Old Thread  #7 30 Jul 2020 at 3.05pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #6
Yeah l would rather use a slack line got into it the last couple of seasons and bite indication is miles better than when l was using lead clips and tight line but the place l’m going on now as quite a lot of pads where the carp hang out In saying that if l was fishing straight onto the pads no to close mind you l think with a slack line l would know about the run quicker and stop it before it gone into the pads than probably l would on a tight line, anyway thanks very for ur advice much appreciated
NickGordon
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NickGordon
   Old Thread  #6 30 Jul 2020 at 7.24am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Run rings with tight lines is basically what Kevin Maddocks descibes as a bolt rig in Carp Fever.

In a perfect situation I would prefer to fish a lead on a run ring with a slack line, a proper running lead.
However, conditions can prevent you from fishing slack lines; weed, undertow, snags.

A run ring in the event of a break-off can come off the line, if the break at rod tip end, the run ring is large enough to get over the break. If the break-off is at the hooklink/mainline join, then the run ring (and lead) will fall off.

The lead size is what you prefer, what will hold bottom, what will allow you to cast the distance, so you could be using anything from 1.1oz up to 3.5 or 4oz.

As for lines you will get loads of choices from various people; everyone has their favourite, what they like.
For years I have avoided more expensive lines, most lines around £15 or more for a bulk spool are no better than lines at £9-10 a spool, in fact many are worse.

I use Gardner Pro in light or dark.
daytripper
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daytripper
   Old Thread  #5 29 Jul 2020 at 7.00pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #4
Yes that why l use the enterprise snag safe with the lead on a C clip so if it did get snagged up it would break off but never lossed a lead yet and like you say you can take the lead of easy enough anyway l give it a try next time out on mono not sure which one yet but 15lb should be ok with no leader; it will be a experience tightening up to one of these after fishing slack for so long.
Many thanks again
GreenLakeCarper
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   Old Thread  #4 29 Jul 2020 at 6.14pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #3
You can still fish locked up and sit on your rods if you’re in a snaggy area, just fish a small drop on your bobbin and no more slack than that just so the fish can’t use the tightness of the line as resistance to bump the rig out.
I’m using the fox angled drop off running kit although I’ve not needed to drop leads where I’m fishing. Being able to take the lead off and leave your rod set up when packing away is a good feature of the fox kit though.
As far as line goes I’d fish a good quality mono at a strength to suit the venue hazards and no leader, rather than drop the lead anyway. Always better to have the strength to land the fish in the conditions rather than drop the lead in my opinion.
daytripper
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daytripper
   Old Thread  #3 29 Jul 2020 at 5.57pm  0  Login    Register
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Thanks for the reply mate yeah l,ve been using the running rig with slack lines and fluorocarbon using the enterprise tackle snag safe running clips sat on one of the Korda run ring rubber the one with the shoulder so the rig Sits at a angle and do find bite indication is really good but the water l’m going on now isn’t really suited with having quite a few Lilly pads which the carp hang up in so want to get close to these but not to close to cause me problems hence the reason for tight lines and was told just do what l,m doing but ditch the fluorocarbon for a good mono but not convinced
GreenLakeCarper
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   Old Thread  #2 29 Jul 2020 at 2.38pm  0  Login    Register
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I don’t think tight lines and running rigs is a great combination tbh. I’ve been using running rigs for a year or so now and finding it a great edge where most are on lead clip or heli setups. In my experience you need a bit of slack so that you have at least a small drop on your bobbin so that the initial pick up by the fish encounters as little resistance as possible. What I believe happens with this setup is that the fish tries to eject the rig against the weight of the lead but does not find the resistance it needs and then bolts. On pressured waters I’ve gone from a few beeps which I thought may be liners to a few beeps, a small delay, and then a screamer. Pretty clear I was getting done on a lead clip setup looking back on it now. I’ve found I can still use a variety of rig types with this setup and the hook holds are still great. Hope that helps.
daytripper
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daytripper
   Old Thread  #1 28 Jul 2020 at 7.07pm  0  Login    Register
Just after abit of advice on tight lines and running rigs been told indication is better than lead clips and is a prettty safe rig to use, most of my fishing will be at less than 100yds probably more around 70yds mark so would l be able to get away without a leader and wants the lightest lead l could get away with and if any one could recommend a decent line that would suit this.
Many thanks in advance
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