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KnickerSniffer
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   Old Thread  #41 27 Jul 2020 at 10.14pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #40
And here's the rub: maybe they've got just the common cold???
Wood_Pool
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Wood_Pool
   Old Thread  #40 27 Jul 2020 at 10.12pm  0  Login    Register
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Put it this way, if I am in the same tackle shop as someone who is coughing their guts up or sneezing their head off I would feel 99% safer if that person was wearing a mask. Reverse the situation and the other person would feel safer, therefore it is a benefit to everyone.

Also: Mental health, I get the worry, but without physical health/life there is no possibility of mental health so measures for physically protecting the population must take priority in the physical world. You can't fix the mental health of someone who is dead from the virus. People who have anxiety issues about seeing people in masks would be advised to avoid shops and public transport for the benefit of everyone.
clicky
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clicky
   Old Thread  #39 27 Jul 2020 at 9.58pm  0  Login    Register
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flobbing..hence why the bame count is high..and why I've ditched working in and around tower hamlets..
KnickerSniffer
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   Old Thread  #38 27 Jul 2020 at 9.56pm  0  Login    Register
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1st paragraph

2nd paragraph...hmm.

I can see.your point and to a large degree its correct, like a poster said earlier, bio suits are the only *real* protection. Stating the obvious, I know [shrug].

I can't help thinking that this is all just an over reaction with the effects of those over reactions being very, very long lasting well into the future. Take people's mental health for instance, we're social beings and being separated from one another for long periods of time has a deep physcological impact as many well documented studies have shown.
clicky
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clicky
   Old Thread  #37 27 Jul 2020 at 9.52pm  0  Login    Register
I should of stayed in Vietnam early march..bloody safer..
Wood_Pool
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Wood_Pool
   Old Thread  #36 27 Jul 2020 at 9.47pm  0  Login    Register
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The UK government handled Covid19 badly from the start. Every important decision they made in the early days was at least 2 or 3 weeks later than it should have been and their advice has been ambiguous at times rather than crystal clear. Thousands of lives could have been saved with earlier restrictions on international travel, earlier lockdown, and a proper contract tracing system in the early days when it would have actually been workable because the numbers would have been low. Wishywashy dithering idiots who couldn't even protect themselves from catching the virus and then let their "advisors" (or is that puppetmasters?) flout the lockdown rules with no comeback.

And to those who say that the masks (or face coverings) will not stop you from catching the virus because they are not medical grade, or you can get the virus in your eye, you are missing the point. The main reason for the mask rule in enclosed spaces is to stop people who are infected, who either don't know or don't care, from accidentally flobbing or sneezing or coughing the virus into other people's faces.
KnickerSniffer
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   Old Thread  #35 27 Jul 2020 at 9.42pm  0  Login    Register
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No, not at all. Just not being specific as to reasons because not all the information has been collected, collated and processed.

Your analogy of phones? Meh. Why don't we just stick to the virus, mkay?
spencerh
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spencerh
   Old Thread  #34 27 Jul 2020 at 9.01pm  0  Login    Register
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So you are basically contradicting yourself?

First it’s Sweden have no problems and they didn’t go full lock down. Then it’s Belgium have worse and they did lock down. Then it’s we won’t know, lol!

All this aside, the science is still out there on whether masks are effective, but for the time being it seems sensible to risk a few boomers being uncomfortable to wear a mask, if the upside is there.

There was a point when we put telephones into cars, and crashes happened, people died. Once we realised that phones and cars don’t mix, we banned them. No one complained about them being too late to act. We accepted it and moved on.
KnickerSniffer
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   Old Thread  #33 27 Jul 2020 at 8.54pm  0  Login    Register
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Well the propaganda pumped into everyone's nut on the daily sure made people think it was.

People I know were literally freaked out, and when I said 'well, it's not like the Black Death is it,' reaction? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
KnickerSniffer
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   Old Thread  #32 27 Jul 2020 at 8.45pm  0  Login    Register
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I've always been of the mindset that the government were knackered either way. If they had gone the way of Sweden, no doubt the Prime Minister would have have been accused of having blood on his hands so to speak, lock the place down, accused of mashing up economy for instance. Nightmare position to be in.
Carew
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Carew
   Old Thread  #31 27 Jul 2020 at 8.45pm  0  Login    Register
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Spot on
SilureMark
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   Old Thread  #30 27 Jul 2020 at 8.41pm  0  Login    Register
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I thought same thing - went into the supermarket yesterday and many of the staff not wearing masks. Really makes no sense and many customers were taking theirs off after seeing this. Total farce. Would have made sense to me back in April, but now infection rate are low and social distancing/awareness in place, really... it just isn't necessary IMO and they offer jack in terms of protection - virus can be absorbed through contact with eyes or ears - so unless you're wearing a full bio suit... what a sh1t show this country has become. The ONLY reason to wear a mask is because you have to. Still too many knobs out there who can't cope if you walk within 6 ft of them. I always have a little cough when I come across them
SPINBOWLER
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SPINBOWLER
   Old Thread  #29 27 Jul 2020 at 8.38pm  0  Login    Register
Masks do work just not the ones 99% of the population are wearing, from the ones described on here from tackle companies etc to the throw away Blue ones most seem to like, absolutely pointless.

Funniest thing is you can also pick this up from surfaces so one without the other (gloves) again makes the whole thing pointless.

Wearing a mask is a bit like only fencing 70% of a lake in the hope you keep the Otters out.
KnickerSniffer
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   Old Thread  #28 27 Jul 2020 at 8.38pm  0  Login    Register
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Belgium with a population of over a million plus more people yet double the death rate of Sweden?

It's going to take a long time to sift through the data to come to any real conclusions, say like age of population more likely to be affected, ethnicity makeup etc.
noj
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   Old Thread  #27 27 Jul 2020 at 8.29pm  0  Login    Register
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Been the plan all along, just dressed up in frilly knickers to limit hysteria.
And the reason masks weren’t on the agenda at the start, everyone was meant to be in lockdown and those who went out were well aware there was a potentially deadly respiratory virus about. If you really need telling a mask may help in those circumstances you’re probably not going to be a loss to mankind
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