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In reply to Post #10
My gti isn't the nicest to hold all day, plus it's got a fairly heavy centrepin attatched to balance it out. I have wondered about getting a 14ft acolyte in the past for something a bit lighter for dace/monster gudgeon fishing, but then i hook a 6lb barbel while fishing for them and remember how good it is.
I have braid on the pin and have rigs on winders, its not unheard of for me to use a 2lb rig line and a size 20 hook in one swim and 8lb line with a size 4 in the next, I know the rod can handle it. I do have a stepped up tip section for it but I don't use it locally, I only get that out for big float/strong flow/deep water fishing
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In reply to Post #8
Ring him up mate , these are his own make ,
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In reply to Post #11
Yes, one of four of my rods I don't think I could ever sell. Too many brilliant memories of good simple angling. Enjoy yours.
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In reply to Post #9
Nice rods the IM9's. Use an IM8 Super stick when I'm on the Dane for chub Dace roach and grayling 
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In reply to Post #8
Mate I've broken several rods on river's more than any other style of angling. You're trying to do something out of the ordinary and challenging which is good angling in my book
It's not as bad as you think on modern longer rods. I've a 17ft Drennan Acolyte plus and had barbel over 12lb on the middle Severn but it's a scrap. You can't dominate them on any float rod you've got to hold all day. I do use 14ft Drennan carp waggler rods if I can control the float through the swim but sometimes you've gotta go longer. I'd try the Harrel truncheon waggler bottom only undershotted laying on and let it drag through if you want to fish further out than your rod tip or the Bolo's. Good luck 👍
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In reply to Post #8
I have a drennan IM9 fourteen I bought years ago. Fantastic rod but very expensive, don't know what one would cost now. I have landed 3 mid twenty carp on it while fishing for other species using 18/20 hooks on 2lb bottoms and 3lb reel line. It's amazing how quickly areal quality rod like this will wear down a big fish and bring it to the net. Make sure you use a line suitable for the rod. What you can't do is haul a fish.
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In reply to Post #7
I had a quick look at woodys and followed the link to Premier floats, didn't see anything of the type I'm looking for. I have tons of sticks, avons, loafers etc, the cralusso bolo floats are a bit different.
Ocelot, I've never used a rod past 15ft, they look like a nightmare with big fish, I would think about a longer rod but I know I can land double figure barbel in a timely manner on my gti, the other long rods I've tried haven't had that grunt in the butt to dominate the fight
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In reply to Post #6
Woody's tackle shop does some monster top and bottom floats for the wye , give him a bell and tell him what you want , he knows his stuff .
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In reply to Post #5
True, I've rods right through to 18ft Cadence and Drennan but non designed for handling fish of that size. Give the Bolo's a go or try the big Dave Harrel wagglers upto about 6SSG under shotted. Good fun
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In reply to Post #4
Yeh there's a few variations on the method and a few names, I either call it stret pegging or laying on.
A couple of floats are cheaper than a long rod that can handle these carp 
I'm not sure there is anything better suited that what I'm using tbh
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In reply to Post #3
Years ago fishing the Severn matches that'd be called stret pegging. The best way I always found was a few feet on the bottom with small shots buttoned along rather than one large weight. You can't get away from tip to float mate, you can only pay so much line out for it to hold, longer rods, standing on platforms tried it all! Mid twenties carp on a river on the float  
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In reply to Post #2
What I want to do is overweight it, and fish it over depth, so the weight is on the bottom. I can do this with an Avon style float and move the rig through the swim, but I'm limited to fishing straight off the tip.
It's do able with my 15ft rod but I've picked up a few bigger fish lately, trying to play a mid twenty carp in the flow is a bit of an experience 
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In reply to Post #1
That's exactly what they're for mate if the water is deep enough. Could also try the same make in the flat float range they make with a longer rod/ bolo rod
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I've been looking at the cralusso bolo floats that may be the answer to a problem I'm having, do they work well?
I'm after something I can hold back hard further out than the rod tip
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