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spanker

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#1723 16 Jan 2021 at 4.24pm

In reply to Post #1721

The tory's know that for everything that is privatized = less chance of Labour getting back in power

spanker

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#1722 16 Jan 2021 at 4.22pm

And less deaths = economic hit , had to get down to my local market before it closed , tiger prawns @ 1.5 kg for Ł10 , fried with Chorizo sausage ,followed by crispy duck pancakes , Large duck for Ł5 , hmmm ,couple of beers , nice bottle of plonk then whiskey hmmm

scozza

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#1721 16 Jan 2021 at 4.20pm

In reply to Post #1719
What I am saying is, that’s what they will be looking at next the useless ****s

scozza

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#1720 16 Jan 2021 at 4.19pm

In reply to Post #1713
We really don't (spend enough on social care)

I don’t know the exact debt but G mentioned 3 trillion!!!

Serious cuts over the last 10 years, virtually nothing in the pot Mal, there will be more cuts across the board no options, that’s as well as tax increases and god knows what else they can sell off

I would like to know what the interest on that is a day

mal

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#1719 16 Jan 2021 at 4.11pm

In reply to Post #1718
you really want to ditch the NHS? are you doing a sarcasm there?

scozza

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#1718 16 Jan 2021 at 4.02pm

In reply to Post #1711
By the time covid is over i reckon we will have a national debt of over Ł 3 trillion which is over 4 x the 2008 debt level

So much for austerity

It’s a total and utter mess and we expect a bunch of muppets to sort it out. Pray for the day when a proper leader comes along and says, STOP, this does not work

Wonder what we can ditch first under these buffoons, NHS has got to go

Wayne

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#1717 16 Jan 2021 at 3.36pm

In reply to Post #1714
And yes , i'm 100% sure that Corbyn would of done a better job and we would have less death's and less death's !

we will never know.......I reckon the Lib dems would have done even better than all of them......

**** themselves and did everything they could to stop it happening.

He would have soon realised Corp power is harder to unravel and tax then simply stating it!!

spanker

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#1716 16 Jan 2021 at 2.47pm

I'm finding it hard to understand the logic behind .

Ł700 billion in 2008 = massive problem and 12 years of austerity

Ł3 trillion in 2021 = nothing to worry about

mal

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#1715 16 Jan 2021 at 2.36pm

In reply to Post #1714
very good point - we could start with the likes of Amazon / Starbucks etc. - the huge mutinationals who have been taking the P for ages

then all those 'non domicile' business owners and millionaires ...

relying on tax increases from the working masses to pay back the debt is ridiculous. If everyone on the average wage gave 50% of their earnings it would still take decades...

Greekskii

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#1714 16 Jan 2021 at 2.26pm

In reply to Post #1710
Did you know Ł120 billion is not collected in taxes from the rich annually?
Why on earth should the normal working man having a tax increase imposed upon them whilst HMRC fail to do their job and collect the correct tax from the wealthy?

But then, I suppose they’ll never be instructed to by a Tory government, and when JC said he’d go collect it, look what happened

**** themselves and did everything they could to stop it happening.

End of the day, it makes more sense to go collect the Ł120 billion than it does to make people that work hard and pay their taxes like good citizens pay more to cover the debts?

mal

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#1713 16 Jan 2021 at 2.23pm

In reply to Post #1710
No scozza. We really don't (spend enough on social care)

It's just a few months back that boris gave 1.2 billion to keep transport for London going til the end of the year. That's one single business in one single city.

Imagine a yearly investment of that amount for social care. Or to tackle food poverty. Just imagine. ...

spanker

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#1712 16 Jan 2021 at 12.04pm

In reply to Post #1710
It's very worrying watching the absolute incompetence and corruption on a daily basis , these people are making a mess as they shape our country and create trade treaties around the world ,how much are they feathering their nests as they do this , Dianne Abbot was famous for making a mess and attacked daily for it by our "not fit for purpose " press , yet nearly all of Boris's front bench are no better , in fact the majority are worse , at least she tried and she was honest !

If it was a football club , Boris would be out by now , we would be bottom of the league !

And yes , i'm 100% sure that Corbyn would of done a better job and we would have less death's and less death's !

Edit , the most important document post wwII was given a few hours to be scrutinized before being passed in parliament or else we wouldn't of had a deal , a deal which is claimed to be worse than Theresa May's , Boris has admitted not reading it , any of it ! the whole thing was blown out of all proportion and used as a tool to win the last election , they never gave a flying fu** about Brexit , they just whipped up the deluded nationalistic ideology of the masses , works every time !

Pants down !

spanker

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#1711 16 Jan 2021 at 11.54am

Ł700 billion triggered 12 years of austerity after the financial crash , funny how they have stopped blaming labour for it , who were about as much to blame as the Tory party are for covid .

By the time covid is over i reckon we will have a national debt of over Ł 3 trillion which is over 4 x the 2008 debt level , yet they have tried to say it's nothing to worry about , austerity has proven to be a failure Johnson admitted this prior to the last election , probably denies it now , the last time we had a debt anywhere near this was after the second world war luckily the economics of the tory's under Churchill were dropped and an Atlee government rescued us, an unbelievable achievement , full employment , millions of houses built and massive improvements to our infrastructure not to mention the creation of the NHS , National schemes , no bent donors to hoover up dodgy contracts at our expense , and now with Starmer sucking up to large corporations we are in a bad place , Starmer is pro Austerity , as he recently admitted , the death knell for an economy , as proven !

scozza

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#1710 16 Jan 2021 at 10.53am

In reply to Post #1707
I agree. And if we are out of Europe and companies want to deal with us. Well, that’s the price you have to pay to trade in the U.K

So, whilst I’m snowed in and board I googled: Major government spending cuts over the last 10 years

If people are genuinely interested take 15 minutes out and have a read, few links, quite interesting really.

Government cuts have been on a downward trend and councils get most of their funding from council tax, wonder what we did before that!

Basic info here Council spend

Education, adult social care and then children’s social care are the biggest areas of spend

If you read more detail though, as the demand for these services increases coupled with the limited funding that prevents provision of the service required expect some tax increases, council and personal as we move towards 2025 or in effect we are bust

Least we will have more to complain about when we are worse off!

A question, out of interest, do we spend enough on social care?

Goose

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#1709 16 Jan 2021 at 10.14am

In reply to Post #1707
Income tax? You do realise that only applies to the working class paye peasants now a days.


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