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mal
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mal
   Old Thread  #2043 27 Jan 2021 at 2.16pm    Login    Register
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kind of... but not just helping EU countries - and not just us doing the sharing either

I think we are already seeing the wealthier countries pushing to the front of the queue because they can afford to. it's small picture mindset because unless you are going to completely close borders, the there's little sense in acting in a way that means less wealthy countries can't vaccinate.

COVAX as a regulatory idea makes sense to me, but the UK - and others - bypassed their system and ordered in bulk direct from manufacturers


and of course - in all ways I think that the more fortunate should look to help the less fortunate. apparently that makes me a snowflake - although I'd argue that crying that you can't go fishing at night is far more flakey...


i think this makes a good point



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   Old Thread  #2042 27 Jan 2021 at 1.29pm    Login    Register
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Mal are you one of those people who think we should 'do the right thing' and give some of our vaccines to those EU countries who are struggling?
blackfield
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   Old Thread  #2041 27 Jan 2021 at 1.22pm    Login    Register
Don't think the EU are responsible for vaccine roll out. They don't control the health policies of member states You're conflating the issues of vaccine purchasing which is being done by the EU and delivery which is done on a country by country basis.

That said, delivery is contingent on supply. Not sure what's going on, but there appears to be some contractual disagreements between the EU and Astra-Zeneca.

mal
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   Old Thread  #2040 27 Jan 2021 at 11.59am    Login    Register
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give it time wayne....

i'm sure they'll find a way to balls it up eventually
Tinhead
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   Old Thread  #2039 27 Jan 2021 at 11.51am    Login    Register
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It would seem that way !
Wayne
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   Old Thread  #2038 27 Jan 2021 at 10.53am    Login    Register
EU vaccine rollout is shocking, looks like we left just in time or would be in the same place!
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   Old Thread  #2037 27 Jan 2021 at 9.01am    Login    Register
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Murdoch has a new news channel starting over here. Fox style is the description of it. OFCOM approved it in the last few weeks.
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   Old Thread  #2036 26 Jan 2021 at 10.45pm    Login    Register
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"Needs must when the devil drives" springs to mind
Tinhead
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   Old Thread  #2035 26 Jan 2021 at 10.28pm    Login    Register
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I think Channel 5 have.
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   Old Thread  #2034 26 Jan 2021 at 9.32pm    Login    Register

Has Starmer done a deal with the devil , Murdoch ?
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   Old Thread  #2033 26 Jan 2021 at 6.03pm    Login    Register
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Yep , we have all seen the videos and pictures relating back to the holocaust , the worrying thing is how politics can be used to turn people , against usually ethnic groups for political gain and usually to hide their own failings , we have seen this occur recently , it's a shame that people still fall for it !
mal
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   Old Thread  #2032 26 Jan 2021 at 12.06pm    Login    Register
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He makes that point. As in, am I just drawing attention to it by making the programme?

I found it really interesting. The denial as a part and parcel of active antisemitism

As I said. Not for everyone
Wayne
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   Old Thread  #2031 26 Jan 2021 at 11.14am    Login    Register
Just watching this morning, Seems the BAME community are serious antivaxxers........
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   Old Thread  #2030 26 Jan 2021 at 8.46am    Login    Register
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But if someone promoted Holocaust denial stuff online and then, when challenged, just tried to shrug it off as an 'alternative view' that they didn't necessarily believe ... I'm sure plenty of people would be fine with that.
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   Old Thread  #2029 26 Jan 2021 at 0.40am    Login    Register
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I've not seen the Baddiel programme and in some ways I don't feel the need.
It happened and anyone that says that it didn't should not be given any attention.
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