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In reply to Post #221
Yep!
And a few more
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In reply to Post #220
No it wasn't him,sounds like you know a story too 
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In reply to Post #215
Steve Whitby?
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In reply to Post #218
Well he moved quicker that day than he did in that video 
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In reply to Post #215
He can't run even without his waders.
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In reply to Post #216
Pm for you,I don't want upset uncle ****s fanboys
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In reply to Post #215
Come on... tell us more..  
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In reply to Post #214
Some of the fish he has caught has not been down to talent.He is a fish at any costs ****,it was funny watching him run off though when confronted by another well known angler in a shop 
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In reply to Post #213
Can't really disagree with any of that mate. I'm just pointing out that to say he has no talent as an angler is not accurate imo.
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In reply to Post #212
It's the way he goes about it and some of the tricks he has pulled though that make him a ****.I have witnessed his behaviour and I have also witnessed what a coward he is when confronted.I won't ever change my opinion of him no matter what fish he has caught.He is a grade A ****
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In reply to Post #211
I disagree mate. I see loads of talented anglers around nowadays. Normally the quiet ones, going about their business.
And no matter what we say about Jim (and we say a lot lol) to suggest he's got no talent as an angler is wrong imo. Yeah he has time, and bait, and questionable tactics etc, but his CV (in terms of fish on the bank) doesn't lie. Historically there's not many he hasn't had.
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In reply to Post #209
Isn't that many talented anglers at all these days in general . Everything at their disposal and the time to fish.
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I think the suggestion of ASD without a professional diagnosis isn't cricket really.
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In reply to Post #207
Caught more fish than most names though.
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In reply to Post #207
Strangely guilty pleasure watching Jim's " thunderbird puppet eyes " 😂
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In reply to Post #195
Worst thing they have done is get Jim involved. Christ knows what he is getting paid for it. He isn't a talented Angler let's face it.
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In reply to Post #201
I'd go to the next swim maybe 10yards away for a brief chat. With my receiver with me. If I was going for a walk round the lake or to the car for provisions. I'd definitely reel in. Some people take the piss and should be banned.
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In reply to Post #201
Different postcode is my rule of thumb
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In reply to Post #201
No real need to wander off more than a few meters, but if you must do it, wind in first
Depends of how much you value the fish and the ticket.
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In reply to Post #201
Up the pub, but that was in the olden days.
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In reply to Post #201
4 metres.
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In reply to Post #191
How far is too far??
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In reply to Post #199
Lots of folks with ASD in the 40 plus bracket undiagnosed IMO.
The diagnosis of much younger folks far more common.
We mention this further down the thread, myself especially.
Since I think around 2000, maybe a little earlier, children tend to be diagnosed within the Autistic Spectrum whereas people like myself were, not ignored, but not tested, or the ASD was not obvious. It was only those who were obviously showing learning difficulties that any differences were picked up on.
My Aspbergers was not recognised until I was 45, and that was after being stabbed with a needle at work by a drug user and the PTSD it brought on. Counselling and testing showed 'something up'.
It is quite possible that ancient figures in history were within the spectrum, MichelAngelo, Isaac Newton, quite probably having Aspbergers Syndrome.
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In reply to Post #187
Lots of folks with ASD in the 40 plus bracket undiagnosed IMO.
The diagnosis of much younger folks far more common.
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In reply to Post #52
Mate , there was loads of "professional" anglers fishing through lock down. Stating its there livelyhood etc... I think its sad that people do things like that. But just crack on doing your own thing and enjoy your fishing, ..
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In reply to Post #191
It's not just Jim Shelly who is miles from his rods.
It's common on tou tube vids for them to film the run to the rods. In no particular order Tom dove .. carl and Alex . Alan Blair to name a few at the top of my head.
I think the need for content is putting the fish welfare in second place.
Remember this is what is shown. I do wonder how much is edited out. 🤔
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In reply to Post #195
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In reply to Post #194
Ive subscribed to cyp twice and have unsubscribed twice
The jim shelley obsession baffles me. The guy is a moron and represents most of the bad things that negatively affect modern carp fishing
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In reply to Post #193
Another example of him acting like a *****
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In reply to Post #191
Seen it, absolute joke, to think that elliot thought that was funny just proves the respect that they have both got for the places they fish. Honestly dont see the big hype on jim all i hear is he just causes issues.
Link below
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNM8cEHL/?k=1
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In reply to Post #33
The bunch of keys is missing from the picture.
( did someone mention T-Cut ?)
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In reply to Post #1
Anyone see the latest snippet that crypography put up today on the shelly series? The guy is quite away from his rods at his van,gets a take , elliot filming saying you've got a run mate go and pick it up. Shelley is laboring putting on waders , not rushing not even attempting to get near rods in a rush. He hits the fish then has a cheek to comment on amount of line its taken and that its wrapped around something . Got taken down pretty quick after the comments...
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In reply to Post #187
I’m lucky I’m back of house don’t have to deal with customers too often all though it’s an open kitchen so customers come to the pass
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In reply to Post #187
Talking of ASD have a look at the Gary McKinnon interview on YouTube. Very interesting.
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Almost 200 posts on jim Shelly. Bet his going to get loads of new sponsorship on the back of this publicity... think you should all make sure you’ve signed the otter Petition.
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In reply to Post #180
The strange thing for me is my job, I am a hotel duty manager, which puts me right in the front line of having to talk to people every day, and some customers you just wish...
My colleagues who I work with all seem to accept how I am, although I know at times they do find me difficult, and strange as I don't do social very well.
I can't remember where I read it, but I believe that a lot of engineers, inventors, scientists and doctors are within the ASD or Aspergers syndrome; certainly many people in those trades I have spoken to are single minded and struggle to communicate with other people. If they explain about a procedure they can be almost in a monotone.
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In reply to Post #175
Agreed.
Maybe, the best way to put it is there are shades and we all fit in somewhere within to more or less of an extent. I know myself, I can be OCD - someone who knows me well points it out regularly, much to his amusement - and pretty relentless trying to achieve what some may seem as pretty mundane or even unnecessary/unimportant activities.
I think the difference is is where that focus is directed. From what I've seen of Terry Hearn for instance, he's obsessed with the very tiny intricate important details, whereas I'm fannying around with my bedchair being level so as to be able to get to sleep, so much so I have to use a spirit level app on my phone to get it dialed in just.... ....right.
From time to time I can direct my crazy and does pay off with fish on the bank, though, my head is like a bird's nest of crazy and cutting through that bird's nest is a long winded and pretty winding, meandering journey.
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In reply to Post #183
No problem man. Fight the good fight.
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In reply to Post #181
How on earth do you reach those conclusions from what I said? I was pointing out that referring to someone as a mental or making sweeping negative statements about people with Autism is not only Il informed it is also insensitive and innappropriate on a public platform.
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In reply to Post #177
Actually you're right and I should have chosen my words far more carefully than I did. If I've offended anyone, then I do apologize for doing so.
I do think that there are certain traits that fall under the spectrum that are in some way gifts which I'm of the opinion may have a bearing on levels of success - this may well be an incorrect assumption on my part - though, equally, those gifts may well not seem such gifts for those whom have them; if that makes sense?
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In reply to Post #181
Not in response to anyone in particular, everyone has traits that will fit in the spectrum its when these traits start to affect daily life that it becomes an issue for the person. i really dont care what JS does in his fishing because it wont affect me,i certainly wish my photo album was like his but dont have the time or the inclination to go to those efforts. The furore he creates in forums like this are amusing at times and worth a read, however i do think everyone needs to be a little nicer to each other, as said many times opinions are likes arse holes we all have one but dont need to share them. Just think about whats being said before typing.
Have a fab day
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In reply to Post #180
I think the guy who had a go has fallen into the trap of of thinking all people with Aspergers are non verbal, can’t make eye contact etc. It’s a very old fashioned way of viewing what is a wide ranging disorder. Hence we now have a spectrum. My missus is a nurse, one of their best surgeons is on the aspergers spectrum he struggles in social situations and with confrontations but he is what’s known as a High functioning case ie apart from those two situations there is nothing wrong with him, his mind just works differently.
I think Jim Shelley if I’m honest has just done too many bloody drugs back in the day if I’m honest, there was a thread a while ago about nick Helleur and his odd personality unlike Jim nick has been open about his drug use on the rave scene, they both have a shifty vibe to them that often comes from heavy drug use and before anyone goes how can you be qualified to say that, I will reiterate what I said on that thread.
I’m a chef I work in an industry with a real drug problem, I work with people everyday who display similar traits as both anglers mentioned even now they are clean and have been for a while it’s given them certain ticks as it were. Jim’s appears to be paranoia, nicks appears to be he can’t talk about one thing for more than a few seconds without going off on a completely different tangent
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Asperger's, same as me. Like you I find it very hard to back down over things. Also being in a crowd can send me into a panic. Most people can't live with how "short" my verbal skills are and think I'm being an arse or dismissive with them on purpose.
If I ever mention that that I'm on the spectrum to somebody they always seem to think it makes you into some kind of genius too 
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In reply to Post #178
I am sure that there are many anglers who have some level of Autistic Spectrum Disorder as in all human activity. "
Yes. I'm one of them. Hence I know a bit about it. Hope your little bitch fit you've just had has made you feel good about yourself.
I am as well, Aspbergers syndrome or whatever it has now been called, putting me in the Autistic Spectrum, diagnosed at the age of 45 after a few years of stress through work.
I do know that ASD means I can be an argumentative git when I know I'm in the right.
That does not mean I go out of my way to break rules fish where I shouldn't, or behave in a manner that is anti-social
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"I am sure that there are many anglers who have some level of Autistic Spectrum Disorder as in all human activity. "
Yes. I'm one of them. Hence I know a bit about it. Hope your little bitch fit you've just had has made you feel good about yourself.
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Sorry knickersniffer and boonylocks but time to shut up. I am sure that there are many anglers who have some level of Autistic Spectrum Disorder as in all human activity. Your ignorant, innacurate and insensitive words and statements don't do you or this forum any favours. Think BEFORE you speak. I have no intention of developing this further, but this needed to be said.
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Derek Ritchie is one who is 100% mental!
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In reply to Post #174
"Highly autistic" people can barely perform daily functions or live a normalish life, I doubt that they would be able to cope with going fishing on their own.
But I do agree that mega successful people in general (not just fishing) have brains that just don't work the same as the average joe out there. Often this at odds with "normal" peoples behaviour or moral standards. They are often loners who don't have to worry about being socially accepted and carp angling is an ideal pastime for people of that ilk. They have traits that are often seen on the ASD spectrum, but will be very low on the spectrum.
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In reply to Post #172
So is embryo not a good thing in your rose tinted spectacles.Times change unfortunately and the sport has become more popular,I don't agree with jumping straight into carp fishing.Im taking my stepson fishing but he is starting how I did,fishing for other species and learning all aspects of it along the way.Is that ok with such a purist like yourself,Mr oh in my day it was amazing 
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In reply to Post #130
Did I work for Korda? 😂 😂 😂. Nor do I idolise Jim Shelly. I think you must be a korda groupie one that owns a set of ali's punder ants. Korda have turned carp fishing into a circus show and if you don't see that then obviously you need to go to speksavers.. I remember you from my previous profile and a post spouting your nonsense seems things never change
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In reply to Post #168
Because he's a bellend, and all sorts to many places
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In reply to Post #166
Well you didn't want to listen to 'facts' earlier, I did try to tell you.
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In reply to Post #168
Everywhere and **** knows
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In reply to Post #167
Why and where too?
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In reply to Post #165
He doesn't move fish i hope?
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In reply to Post #162
Sure we will find out when he has caught it 
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In reply to Post #162
Could this venue be called the ... guesting syndicate 
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In reply to Post #139
well said
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In reply to Post #161
Love to know more about this Lincolnshire syndicate
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In reply to Post #27
I've just subbed yesterday to CYP. I'm starting to watch from EP1, so with a bit of luck, all this JS furore will blow over by the time I get to the Hunter series..... 
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In reply to Post #158
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Embryo will be installing Shelley-proof fences next 
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In reply to Post #155
all of them 
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Any ideas which syndicate he is now on in lincolnshire?
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In reply to Post #147
Thunderbird eyes
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In reply to Post #149
I see he has put his left hand next to the carp soap dispenser tract.....
...see contrary to vicious rumour he does take this Covid ***** seriously!! 
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In reply to Post #149
Has someone photo shopped that picture? He looks like he's going to blow a gasket.
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In reply to Post #150
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In reply to Post #149
No he's telling the voices in his head to **** off
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Is this the 'oh **** the bailiffs coming' look
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Carp fishing is a hobby. Being a decent carp fisherman doesn't get remembered if you are an awful human with it. Jim Shelley is a decent fisherman and didn't need to do all the other stuff. He will only be remembered as a bad person. Makes you think.
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In reply to Post #146
Tells a story , but the thunderbird eyes when he talks about a secret water gets a bit tedious , and the " iv got to be careful what I say" all the time don't impress me .
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In reply to Post #145
Met him once at a fish in and spoke to him personally regarding a bereavement.
Found him to be pleasant, informative and a laugh. With regards to speaking to him personally, was caring and showed genuine caring.
Each to their own, but has my respect!
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In reply to Post #141
Exactly what I’m saying mate mainline peaches and cream is a bog standard readymade and I caught more than my fair share compared to guys using expensive baits but using them ineffectively
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In reply to Post #142
well i'm sure they were black suit trouser legs to be fair!!
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In reply to Post #141
Lego figurine
is that just a posh lego figure Vik?
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In reply to Post #140
Bad bait in a good place will work better than a good bait in a bad place.i know someone that’s caught on a Lego figurine legs before. They’ll eat anything if it’s put where they want to eat!
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In reply to Post #139
Ain’t that the truth mate, I see so many guys on the lakes I fish even on the severely limited time I have who turn up with a couple kilos of the latest on trend bait, don’t bother looking for the fish, don’t bother finding spots etc just turn up take the nearest swim to the car park put out their bait in a general area and then blank and come round asking what I’m doing to have caught when he is using such and such bait which cost him X amount per kg, they are often shocked when I say for example on this estate lake I fish that the carp seem to like a sweeter bait and I’m using mainline peaches and cream, so not an expensive bait certainly not the best available but I look for where they are find some spots and also I soak them in a mix of the cell stick mix liquid, condensed milk an a bit of water. A good bait used badly is not going to work how it should.
As with the rods I have greys rods as Harrison’s and century were out of my price range lol and certainly not bad rods at all
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In reply to Post #137
I know a bloke who had a bait shop, use to make and roll his own mixes well before the spike in carpfishing shall we say. He then started to stock pre-rolled baits from popular manufacturers shall we say. Because people were asking for them. He used to fill the freezers with said bait, few months later, everybody wanting the next new bait, few months later, same again, and again and again and again. Shut him down eventually. You would not believe how often some people change bait. It’s the first thing they blame why they blank. Nothing to do with them fishing the wrong spots or the fish don’t recognise it’s as a food source ffs. Some other successful carp angler publishes his catches and names that bait, all the sheep are on it. He has caught the fish because he knows what he is on with, key point, and got the fish on the bait!
Look at big Jim, catches on everything he uses. Couple this with his style, heavy baiting, like mentioned below and what did he put in Wellington, 50kg hits. Bloke comes along with a KG of said bait on his water and thinks he is going to change the world, sad truth is, he ain’t 
There are some very good bait companies about with a good reputation, their baits catch fish, all people need to do is pick one, apply and stick with it. They will catch 100 times more fish than going with latest wonder bait every other week.
Like I also said, these trends have put a lot of people out of business too and will continue to do so. Once a good bait, always a good bait
Like fishing rods, you want a quality rod, buy century or Harrison’s. Look at all the run of the mill companies pedalling fancy names and models all the time, catching anglers, not carp, new range of rods every other year!!!, must haves!!!
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In reply to Post #135
And this is why I roll my own bait and have done for years. I know exactly what every single gram goes into my boilies. How many other people can say the same?!
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In reply to Post #136
One of those days!??? Know what you mean though
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In reply to Post #135
This is it mate. Like most things in carpfishing, hyped up beyond belief because some company or somebody is trying to scrounge a living for from it
There’s lots of good bait company’s come and gone, not because their products are poor, because they have not caught the sheep. Sad state of affairs for me. And then I see these idiots, the fame seekers, doing the self promotion and company promotions and they have not got a ****ing clue about bait. That’s what annoys me 
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In reply to Post #133
Agree with this and scozza, more money in advertising than there is in the actual bait creation and development. Advertise well enough and it don’t matter if your bait is a ball of dust, there’s so much going in all over that fish will get caught on it.
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In reply to Post #132
See what goes off. Full of sheep that don’t know **** all about bait. They are just round balls 
Bait swapping and brand jumping!. Once a good bait, always a good bait
50% of carp anglers are ****ing clueless (that’s being polite btw) bought out of the box or off shelf brigade, they don’t know **** all about bait other than it’s round, they have no experience of it!!!, they can push a needle through it and occasionally they catch a carp on it. They are more conditioned than the fish with all the advertising hype I am sorry to say 
What Mainline and the rest do is pretty amazing imho. They help idiots catch the fish of their dreams and they have not got an clue on the real reasons WHY 
**** like this has shut a lot of good, reputable, business down ffs
The best bit, then they send their pictures into magazines or post them on social media with their crap videos and stories giving it the big “I am” when really they have not got a ****ing clue
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In reply to Post #132
I think you’d be surprised. I’m not saying there bad, but how many ppl jump onto sticky because all the top lads are hauling week after week (or so it’s portrayed!) apart from the cell advertising they have been one of the best at advertising imo
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In reply to Post #131
Surely his days of joining a bait company and then boosting sales are over? Nobody would swap just cos jim started using it? Surely It’s the reverse now
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In reply to Post #124
Not sure if true or not. But if anything like that happened anywhere I fish and was previewed to it. It wouldn’t end well for either of us. Absolutely no need for complete disregard of life. If he did do this then he should be ashamed of himself.
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In reply to Post #128
Did you used to work for Korda and they sacked you.Is Jim putting anything back into fishing like the embryo project is doing.I think you have got mental health issues like your idol,Jim Shelleys pet 🐑
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In reply to Post #128
I think your jim shelley in disguise, I can tell by the spelling mistakes 😉
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In reply to Post #120
Obviously thw two guys are gentlemen and portray carp fishing as a quiet persuit and love of angling, where the numpties ar korda think they're circus clowns.
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In reply to Post #126
So exactly what happened on Rockford then...
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Had one personal experience with him which was the Carp Forum social in Wolverhampton a few years back where he was the guest speaker. I didn't know anything about him so sat there listening for what I thought would have been a few anecdotes, tips and all things carpy.
Instead it was basically him bragging about fishing SSI that he had to break into, stealing someones boat and other similar stunts. He thought it was all funny.
To cap it all my brother won a free tuition lesson with him. When he rang up to book it he said he would only do it if someone else also paid full price which wasn't mentioned anywhere before.
His attitude stank and he was rude.
The bloke's a knob and frankly I'm always surprised people idolise him.
I remember when he was a member on here and was kicked off for how he treated people.
That all being said, he makes no difference to my life and the world is full of other knobs who do far worse.
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In reply to Post #124
Shelley.. full time angler, who wouldnt catch if fishing that much. Catch at all costs, use bait companies as Guinea pigs.. retreated from Rockford with his tail between his legs.. bye bye..
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In reply to Post #121
I’ve heard some awful tales about Jim, all second hand I must add.
The nailing of bream to trees is the worst. Surely that can’t be true?
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In reply to Post #122
As do trout anglers, throw pike on the bank and leave them there to die, ****s
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In reply to Post #121
Neither would I but I've seen matchmen throw ruffe up the bank because they couldn't weigh them in on a match.
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In reply to Post #120
Dave Lane and Terry Hearn come across as genuine nice guys as do many other well known carp anglers they have all bent the rules to land their target fish it just seems like Jim Shelly takes it that extra bit further. The story about him nailing bream to trees does not sit well with me. I know they can be annoying but that's all part of it for me I would never kill one just because it picked up my bait. 
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In reply to Post #116
Be an interesting poll that. How,many dislike Korda and how many dislike Big Jim
Wonder how many dislike Terry Hearn or Dave Lane, I will say virtually none, wonder why 
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In reply to Post #116
Round egg
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In reply to Post #98
thats pretty spot on from what I heard at the time from a few of the anglers on there at then time, fair play to him tbh,
quite funny really, been out the carp fishing circuit for 10yrs, people were bashing Jim back then and he's still going and doing this thing, fair play 
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In reply to Post #115
Who’s bait is he on ?
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In reply to Post #114
round egg is actually a fair description
The post knocking Korda and the way southerners talk before rimming a bloke who’s hoping his voice breaks by 50 is pretty comical. 
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There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about.
- Oscar Wilde
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I don’t know Jim Shelly or want to know him..and I’ll probably never fish the same waters as him....but in regards to tackle companies sponsoring him, he’s got it made....
I start bait company tomorrow..clobersauraus baits get Jim Shelly on the payroll and over night everyone will know about clobersauraus baits.... all his followers will get my bait company known on social media....and all his haters will come on forums etc....shout about Jim Shelly jumping ship again to clobersauraus baits.....is that worth the free bait and wages i pay him....I don’t know but it must be....
It reminds me of a film i watched years ago about Howard Stern the radio presenter...very controversial radio shows in America and a statement was made...the people who like him listen for 30 mins and the main reason they listen is to see what’s he’s gonna say next......the people who hated him listened for 2 hrs and again the main reason they listen is to see what’s he’s gonna say next....
I bet its similar with Jim Shelly....i bet he gets more publicity from people that think he’s a cock than he does from people who think he’s an all round good egg.....
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In reply to Post #109
I'm in the 90% . I'm never going to have him fishing near me so not going to bother me. I've enough other idiots to do that unfortunately.
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In reply to Post #82
Speaks highly of you to
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In reply to Post #109
Probably so, I’m in the 90%. Respect to the man, caught a very, very lot of special fish, never met him, never will, don’t give a toss really but no matter what people say he is one of the most successful carp anglers in country over the last few decades, like him, loathe him or 90% him
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In reply to Post #108
Scraping the barrel there aren't you lol?
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In reply to Post #107
I'd think 5% love him, 5% hate him and the other 90% couldnt give a toss tbh.
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In reply to Post #107
Watched a guy with a bait boat put his bait in a far margin swim on g lake at waveney valley, had to swerve the boat around probably 20yards of very thick lily pads.Honestly not sure if it was jim but he certainly was in the area, if it wasn't Jim it was one of his Norfolk sheep .
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He certainly generates some interest and controversy. I can see why the sponsors like like him. 80% of carp anglers love him, 20% don’t
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In reply to Post #103
Clearly there are only two types of anglers. You're either a Korda fan boy or you're a cheeky little rule breaker, a little bit woo little bit whey
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In reply to Post #96
You sound like a sheep yourself, a shelley sheep. And they are the worst kind of sheep
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In reply to Post #103
Strange, I have been called a foxy kinda guy in the past 😉
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In reply to Post #102
I also wondered what relevance Korda has to this convo?
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In reply to Post #96
What’s a Korda guy ?
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Again for me I have mixed feelings, he has never done anything to me and has actually been very friendly even when I messaged him saying I thought one of his views he had expressed was total c**p but I’m totally in agreement with mr Magoo he 100% has some sort of personality disorder and maybe some mental health problems he just always seems paranoid, and jittery even in the cyp interview at his house he was like it so can’t be just cos he is fishing where he shouldn’t be.
As for the poaching it’s wrong but so was the guesting back in the day it’s not for me.
One or two stories with evidence point to someone being a bit of a t**t but the amount of stories there are defo point to some sort of personality disorder, I’m gonna have my brother in law have a look at his interview he is a qualified psychologist so should be good and hilarious what he thinks of him 😂😂
However all things said he catches a lot of big carp, yeah he has said about using a lot of bait but so do a lot of the other names, saw one in a mag saying he used 45kg of particle to clear a spot then baited with 30kg of boilies!! They all do it so I won’t slag off his methods, stroke pulling happens on all lakes
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In reply to Post #96
Spot on, couldn't agree more. Now, can you let me know what lakes you fish please so I can come and steal the fish? And while I'm there I'll just leave all my rubbish laying around. You obviously won't mind because you're not a pathetic sheep
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In reply to Post #96
Yeah alright! Look at all the ppl that follow him from bait company to bait company ‘bahhhhhhhhhhh’
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Not sure how true the story is but in the Conningbrook chapter everyone else is apparently pussy-footing around with single hookbaits etc trying to catch 'Two Tone', JS says he filled a spot in with 40k of particles and had it on his 2nd night there, classic if true
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In reply to Post #96
I hate this term "sheep" but if you want to see what it means just go and have a look at his followers on FB. It makes me cringe every time he posts something. Embarrassing to the point of hilarity.
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We live in a society where you have to be a sheep speak like how your told, think what you're told to think. Jim Shelly goes against the grain and you see the pathetics come out in force. Man is a carp catching machine and upsets snowflakes. Big thumbs up for Jim from me...
You can tell who the Korda guys are on here..
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In reply to Post #1
I think he’s an exceptional catcher of carp and especially large ones. And in the early days he travelled from Norfolk to wraysbury to bait up and sure he was working in those days. I’m sure he has a mrs not sure on kids.
BUT, that’s where it ends for me. Poaching waters is now #carpy and loads do it, but youv got to be a special kind of stupid/arrogant to publicise it. His vids come across as jittery and avoiding the q’s wether to give air of mystery or god knows but seems he’s constantly trying to think of ways to say things without getting in trouble. Forgetting about the heavy baiting, attitude and bullying what made me think ‘dick’ was in his second book. He is doing a tuition and decides to go and fish a diff lake on the complex, comes back and matey is struggling with a fish. If I was paying the prices I would want him with me 24/7 and not wandering off on ‘my time’
Heard many many tales from ppl I trust of him trying to bully others.
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In reply to Post #92
TBH it’s quite clear to everybody that he obviously does not give a **** what people think about him
I have the book, he clearly states if it wasn’t for carpfishing he would not have achieved much in his life. No doubt he may have psychological problems, same as most people. Whether people like him or not that’s their choice. He has managed to earn a living out of carpfishing where thousands have failed. This thread just shows the true reflection of carpfishing too for me, lot of back biting and a lot of bitterness on both sides which is typical of a lot of waters
Ever since in have fished, fishing and stroke pulling go hand in hand, happens on nearly every water I have fished, there are always one or two, even half a dozen characters shall we say on most of the waters I have fished. Years ago as a kid I saw a famous matchman get a knee in the bollox and sparked out in the car park for fishing for a few seconds after time was called. In fact, I could write a book about what I’ve seen over the years!
I take people on face value. As long as they are straight with me, I am with them, simple.
I don’t doubt what he has been up to and I’m sure he has been on the end of it many times as I said below. What goes around comes around
Carpfishing is also full of a lot of two faced lying trouble causers too, I hate people like this myself
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In reply to Post #82
I never ever thought I'd say this Maggsie but that is a top post
Maybe you can help out Ralphy as he has some serious 'issues'
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In reply to Post #82
Great post, can I have a selfie?
If he’d have chosen the ‘ normal’ life he would have made an outstanding shop steward or traffic warden something along those lines whereas everyone thinks your a **** except other traffic wardens or shop stewards
....wasn't he a Prison Officer at one time or is that a myth?
Having recently read his first book to see what all the fuss was about, it's obvious he liked the 'White Lightening' a bit too much which helps but I always wondered if his (only?) mate Mark drowning on Wraysbury had had a big effect on him but it seems he was a massive **** before that as I even found the whole vibe of that book is 'I'm not really like the rumours let's put the record straight' so he was obviously up to his shenanigans from the start. 
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In reply to Post #90
never watched any of elliots films, nor will I,
any company fat bloke is connected with, I will never buy any of their products
sort of sums up my feelings towards the subject
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In reply to Post #89
Doctor Magoo  Good post that , and like what’s been said ... very accurate
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In reply to Post #88
Now you’ve done it, my profile picture will be changed to some fat alcoholic with a strange fascination for weirdos 🤓
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In reply to Post #82
That’s a worryingly accurate profile.
From now on you shall be known as,,,,Cracker!
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In reply to Post #82
Spot on imo. You can tell in those interviews he's in a world of his own. The actual questions put to him just don't register.
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In reply to Post #85
Thought they already had
King Shaka International Airport
Maybe a bin wagon or something?
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In reply to Post #83
Why thank you snozzer one of my finer pieces even if I do say so myself , do you think they’ll name an airport after me ?
I’ll probably be assassinated now by some Camo clad carp mong who’s world has been destroyed by this.
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In reply to Post #58
What has been said that isn't fact? For starters I have proof of him lying about fish weights and I have proof that he's stolen fish.
I've witnessed him baiting & poaching more than one lake, one of which is owned & run by an angling club so it's actually theft of fishing rights & not just poaching. We're not talking about a bit of romantic 'guesting' that everyone gets so hard over these days.
I wonder how you'd feel if he was skulking about in the bushes of your lake, inviting his friends down, removing fish and then having the audacity to have Elliot down there doing a film with him.
I know it was him who was moved on by Police during lockdown because I know who rang them after he was spotted.
The sprayed message in the swim that I put a photo up is real too.
Regardless of his ability to catch fish, anyone who condones this sort of behavior is as bad as he is and is a stain on angling.
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In reply to Post #82
normal Angler’s on limited time with mortgages , full time jobs and children are never ever going to achieve what these so called ‘ top’ boys are going to it’s physically impossible.
Well said, any working man who has chased carp over the years gets my total respect over any bank tramp. I know what it’s all about. Tough old game
The rest of it is an interesting profile
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Undoubtably caught a lot of big carp and I assume a very capable angler, loads of free time and bait also helps, What he also has are mental health problems.
Anyone who acts the way he does has to have some kind of issue, as alluded to in the filmed interview,he completely ignored some really interesting questions because I don’t think he understood half of them and he also seems to like to project an air of mystery And aloofness which he either believes in himself or he thinks other people do.
Fella I know fished with him at fen drayton who said he got on ok with him but he was a habit of rubbing certain people up the wrong way and this I think is half the problem.
He is in a small minority of Angler’s who spend their whole lives pursuing big fish, when you analyse this bunch the majority of them have no children, no real possessions and a lot of them have no partners.
‘ normal ‘ ? Angler’s on limited time with mortgages , full time jobs and children are never ever going to achieve what these so called ‘ top’ boys are going to it’s physically impossible.
Now, if he doesn’t consider you to be a ‘ top ‘ boy he thinks your a sheep and that he is far superior ( in catching terms he very likely is ) than you this I think is where the problems start.
Something somewhere triggers this mental feeling of superiority whether it be drugs, drink, bullying or sexual abuse as a child something makes him think he is better than you and the fact you have all of the things in life that he doesn’t Will not register with him because of his lack of intelligence or mental issues.
If he’d have chosen the ‘ normal’ life he would have made an outstanding shop steward or traffic warden something along those lines whereas everyone thinks your a **** except other traffic wardens or shop stewards.
Every ‘ normal ‘ angler with an ear to the ground knows he is a lying, cheating ******* that causes problems wherever he goes, getting bashed up, having to run away from people threatening him on lakes because he has said something about them all points the fact that he has mental health issues and the feeling of superiority stems from this.
So there you have it my thought on the man, you either agree or disagree depending on your outlook on life but I will also add, you will probably gather from my post that I am not a fan and I have my reasons which I will not explain on here, I have never met the retard but if he had said to me what he said to one of my good friends I’m pretty sure I would be in prison and Jim Shelley would be dead.
( footnote ) Shelley never actually said it he got one of his ( top/sheep ) to make the call.
Over and out
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Its true what has been said about what he does on Facebook as he posted about a member on here put his Facebook profile and said to give him a load of ****. I made a comment on Facebook when he left another bait company on their page and he blocked me Lol
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In reply to Post #64
no wonder he's on the defensive all the time he said she said he baited over someones spot, loose one out the throwing stick and all hell breaks loose for him..... i bet some of you slating him posted the men suicide stuff on your FB it cant be nice for him
I think Greg ellis is Jim's lovechild and will take his role in a few years
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In reply to Post #78
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In reply to Post #77
Possibly
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In reply to Post #76
What if I pay for a tuition for you,will you give up and **** off from on here
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In reply to Post #75
Mmmmm, Terry Hearn or Dave Lane for me
Maybe I would pay for that
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In reply to Post #74
It's never gonna happen. I was more thinking of the kind of person I could spend a day fishing with.
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In reply to Post #73
The day I pay for a tuition with a carp angler is the day I should pack in
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In reply to Post #72
If I were to have the money for a tuition session Mr Shelley wouldn't be on my short list of tutors. Maybe Adam Penning or Darrell Peck.
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In reply to Post #70
The majority wouldn't trespass and fish a private water then broadcast it
Disagree, loads have, and are fishing waters they should not, gone on for years, same as fish pinching and moving
Also. loads seem to be broadcasting nowadays. It seems lo be the done thing to me?
Lots of dickheads on the banks so he could be classed as just another by some. To be fair there are a lot of good guys too, pending where you fish of course
I respect him for what he has caught. Carp fishing is no longer what it once was for me, famous carp anglers of old were famous for guess what, catching carp, THE carp. Again, nowadays it seems to me that it does not matter what you catch as long as you can tell a good story and shout the next man down
Tuition, should be OK, I’ve fished for long enough, mind you though, would never turn down the opportunity to learn something
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Can you download cypography to watch offline or is it live view only over WiFi please?
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In reply to Post #67
The majority wouldn't trespass and fish a private water then broadcast it and most anglers respected the lock down, if his attitude becomes that of the majority I would give up. How can you respect someone with catch at any cost attitude regardless of what he has caught? Maybe you should book some poaching tuition with him.
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In reply to Post #67
So you condone his behaviour and actions to catch them fish
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If I had to behave like him to catch i would quite happily give it all up and try golf instead.
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In reply to Post #63
That’s his choice. Same as anybody else's
The man has consistently caught all the special ones for years and years and years. That’s pretty amazing for me. Some people can talk about it, some people can do it. Carp catcher of the highest level
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In reply to Post #63
spot on
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In reply to Post #64
I agree. The questions were great. But he seems to ignore them and talk about whatever he wants lol.
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if you watch his interview on Cypography it' s a shame that Jim seems to either avoid (or not understand) some really good questions that could of made for a great interview, unfortunately he just seems to be constantly on the defensive about everything.
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In reply to Post #62
Total respect for him? No wonder this country is going down the pan if people respect someone that poaches and trespasses and has no respect for anyone but himself.
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In reply to Post #60
I know a lad who was fishing the same water as him at the time. He started baiting and fishing some spots he had going. He got so pissed off he threw a load of old fencing into the swim to snag him up. DEFINITELY not the thing to do
TBH It did make me laugh at the time though. What goes around comes around. You just have to deal with it
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In reply to Post #60
Probably so mate. You dont get all that smoke without a few fires along the way
Joys of fishing unfortunately, Ive seen a LOT of this over the years
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In reply to Post #59
Many have dealt with him Chris, and mostly the lads commenting on here who speak of him know from experience not hearsay. I only had the misfortune once while visiting a mate at the lake he was on at the time and that few seconds told me the rumours were correct. He was disliked so much on there that they kept the fact his target fish had been had by an otter quiet for a couple of months just to piss him off
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In reply to Post #58
Well said
One of the most successful big carp catchers in this country over the last few decades
Catches the target fish, after target fish, after target fish, real deal, no bull****, just the the facts, the pictures
Must be a lot of jealous people about. From a carp fishing perspective, total respect for me
If he is a ****, deal with it, sounds like some people have
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In reply to Post #57
Ffs gents,stop saying Jim did this Jim did that,someone beat him up,this happened that happened. ...deal in facts. If you know something to be true say so, Nick Gordon You went 90% now tell us the last ten percent......there mini rant over, feel better now.
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I have to admit, I have met him on the bank once... a ghastly experience. 
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In reply to Post #55
Was that on route to a ‘poaching’ tuition with a client ?
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In reply to Post #53
I live in Lowestoft and saw in our local paper that a bloke got caught travelling to Cambridge during lock down but didn’t think it was him.
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In reply to Post #51
No balls just powder up his nose.
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In reply to Post #52
There was a few but the first one local to me was him. Apparently someone reported him 👀
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In reply to Post #40
Was that really Jim Shelley who got caught by the police during lockdown?
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In reply to Post #46
Haha Ian chilcott back in the day is someone I wouldn’t of messed with so he has a set of balls on him, why on earth would he threaten terry Hearn the man seems very likeable
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In reply to Post #46
What happened 😂
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In reply to Post #48
Not going to lie, some of these stories are entertaining- keeping me entertained during a nightshift
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Wow some of the things you read
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In reply to Post #46
With JS, there is no smoke without 🔥 fire
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In reply to Post #42
I've kept quiet, I can verify some of his behaviour. I would never have him on any water I ran.
From swims at Weybread where he baited up on top of other anglers, threatening them when they were where he wanted to fish, nailing bream to a fencepost. The cans left where he was fishing.
Taverham and Costessey using a dinghy to put end tackle out. It was only to be used for rescuing snagged fish.
Anglers who had to pull out of 'tuitions' having their phone number put on facebook for his acolytes to call.
Oh yes, threatening me, that went down like a lead ballon because I was not going to back down.
He also threatened Terry Hearn in the toilet at 5 Lakes apparently, and tried it on with Ian Chilcott.
I know what happened in both incidents.
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In reply to Post #43
I’m going to have to get myself a copy now
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In reply to Post #42
Stroke pulling in carpfishing, that does not really happen does it
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In reply to Post #41
Did you ever get around to fisting that bloke at the post office?
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In reply to Post #40
That makes him sound extremely motivated. I’ve never met jim but it’s the same story year after year since the mid 90’s. Few of you would have even met him, all third hand stories he’s like the pantomime villain..
Go fishing don’t worry about Jim unless he directly does something to you..
I’m just a fair guy it’s not just jim that pulls strokes
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In reply to Post #40
Did you and your pals end up getting a mention in his latest book? Not had the chance to read it yet.
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In reply to Post #39
Not really a like for like comparison is it. How many fish has Chris Yates stolen? How many '"40's" has he lied about their weights? How many private venues has he broken in to to fish? How many times during lockdown did he travel 100 miles to bait up a strictly no fishing lake and then get sent home by the police? How many times has he bricked off a flooded ditch to catch an escapee? How many times has he been filled in by a kid? How many venues has he been banned from?
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In reply to Post #38
I don’t watch sticky videos because Chris Yates doesn’t use a 42 inch landing net
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In reply to Post #1
Jim Shelly is the main reason why I will never subscribe to Cypography. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying this. What the f*** was Elliott Grey thinking?
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jim pays his bills with his ways and skills, he puts food in his familys belly, i doubt he gives a **** anymore,
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In reply to Post #34
Shelley is a true one-off, but he has made things work for him. There’s clearly some underlying issues with him, maybe mental health, traumatic childhood, who knows.
I’d rather watch him than the latest cocky non-entity fishing the latest overpublicised water eg Linch, Welly, Snaggy pit etc.....doesn’t mean I like him.
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In reply to Post #33
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Can I just point out jim is just doing what people have been calling guesting for years and years, think black mirror think various other big names who put articles in mags about their guesting. It’s all poaching. Jim is a character I disagree with a lot of the stuff he says and does(and have had conversations with him on insta about it) he has an odd character
As for Elliot again through insta have asked advice and he has been very willing to chat recommend things(none of which were sold by his sponsor) and have found him friendly
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Seems like a good opportunity to share this again
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In reply to Post #31
What did he do to you bradders?
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In reply to Post #30
So you think it's ok the tricks he has pulled to catch them fish.How his selfish attitude has affected other people's fishing, you think his behaviour is acceptable
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It’s 2020 you lot have been paying for jim Shelley’s carping for about 25yrs...
think Katy Hopkins, Nasty Nick etc.... well done Jim great little business.
fishing is a great leveller. If your a Dr or a dealer it’s what you put on the bank..
and if you add everyone up on this thread we’ve Probably caught a fraction that Jim has...
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Don’t forget the reason he was banned from here years ago.
Promised a prize in a contest then couldn’t be arsed to honour it. Got really arsey when challenged ( as usual) and got kicked off.
So forget, poaching, soaping, conniving, leeching - he’s just not a very honest or nice person.
Now that’s KIR
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In reply to Post #26
The best one I actually witnessed was him running off like a big girl at one of his own book signings.He had rubbed someone up the wrong way on social media and they turned up
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In reply to Post #25
Well as of today I’ve decided to end my Cypography sub due to so many Jim Shelly videos on there.
Most people in agreement on here that he poaches and is a bit of a tosser so not paying money to a place where almost 30% of the videos have him in
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Funny how the times he's been challenged by other anglers over his attitude and behaviour never get mentioned in those butt kissing vids.
Like the time he got filled in by a famous angler on a very famous complex. Yanno, that kind of stuff....
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His demeanour on camera is certainly odd. Constantly stopping and pausing like he's hiding some enormous world ending secret.
To the comment regarding Elliot condoning his behaviour (whatever that may be) is a good point, he may well suffer in terms of sales if enough people stop watching due to its Jim Shelley heavy content.
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He certainly makes friends wherever he goes (ignoring the poor spelling)
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In reply to Post #10
If fishing is all i ever did and i had no morale compass im sure id catch a hell of a lot more than i do
Jim is a moron. I have fished the same lake as him and how he didnt end up in the lake I'll never know
Im undecided on elliot. I like what he does and he clearly possesses some talent but giving jim any publicity means that he's condoning the bloke so im done with cypography
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In reply to Post #15
If something is your passion you play buy the rules if you want to carry on with, stroke pulling and poaching doesn't make you a good angler it makes you a cheat and any company that knowingly sponsors such a person is in effect condoning them.
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In reply to Post #15
Same as mugging old ladies? 
I mean, if that's your passion....
Never met the bloke and I woudn't take anything on social media as gospel, but your hypothesis is way off.
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In reply to Post #14
Like said he's probly banned from most waters so if carp fishing is your passion and life what els is he to do? He can't do that much poaching because I'm sure most good carp waters have an angler on all most all the time.
I'm not saying he's right doing it but what other options does he have
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In reply to Post #10
That just proves the companies sponsoring have the same morals, anything to make a few quid. Wonder how he would feel if someone took his motor with his kit in it and used it for some time then returned it and started blogging about it.
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In reply to Post #10
Some rather questionable methods are used though on occasion... I heard he's a dab hand with a trowel and a pack of bricks, and also seems to go through quite a lot of imperial leather....
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In reply to Post #10
Exactly that
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In reply to Post #1
yeah, yeah and yeah
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In reply to Post #9
His carp catching ability can’t be doubted though. That is why he continues to find sponsors.
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In reply to Post #6
Would you think him a nice fella if he was coming onto your private land to poach your fish? Can't believe company's still sponsor him.
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In reply to Post #7
lol.
To be fair to the man he simply has to poach, There are very few syndicates remaining that would accept his membership.
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In reply to Post #6
Easy enough to find where he's been fishing, he likes to leave a trail of fosters cans. He did at least one of the cypography films whilst poaching a private water. Hopefully he left all the fish in there this time.
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In reply to Post #5
Does what he's got to do to catch the fish he wants/likes.
A nice fella to talk to and not up his own arse like others
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In reply to Post #4
I am not "in the loop" when it comes to his angling escapades. Got the impression though that he was keeping his nut down and doing rather well on a South East Res.
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In reply to Post #1
Forgive me here and promise I’m not stirring the pot or fishing for a response.
Unfortunately you probably will, red rag to a bull once you mention Jim's name.
I've never had a problem with Jim when I have met him, a character definitely. Never fished the same lake as him mind so...
As for Elliot. I've mentioned before on here that he comes across as a bit of a twhat/arrogant. I've recently met a couple of new members on my syndicate that have just left a lake he was fishing (banned from now apparently) and my assumption seemed to be correct. Never met him personally though.
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Without trying to stir up a hornet's nest I've always had a similar impression of him too. Not at all the way I like to angle but each to their own I suppose
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In reply to Post #1
Yeah right
I find him irritating
However I never met the bloke but can only take it as I see it And the way he comes across and he does seem to be catch at all costs and bollox to anyone else
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Forgive me here and promise I’m not stirring the pot or fishing for a response.
Been away from Fishing for a while and no surprise the same old names still dominate our sport.
While in lock down I’ve signed up to the Cypography channel and on the whole the content is great, some minor website bugs but hey ho. Love Elliot also!
After watching the Hunter series with Jim Shelly I get the impression he poaches a lot of his fish, which I’m sure is what he said or referred too. It’s hard to scroll back on the videos so didn’t go back and re listen but I’m sure that’s what I heard.
Also does anybody else find him/his videos a bit hard work? Not the most enjoyable fella to watch (Goes off on tangents) but fair play he does put the big ins on the bank.
Thoughts?
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