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In reply to Post #1321
It’s called life, and that how it is in most places of the world. Compared to others we are in an exceptional position, you need to remember and respect this. Life is what you make it flowerpot 
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#1321 4 Jul 2020 at 6.34pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1320
Again, having to work harder to get equality isn’t equality is it 
What’s equal about one person having to work 3x as hard to get the same opportunities. Honestly can’t make it up how you don’t understand what equality actually is 
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#1320 4 Jul 2020 at 6.27pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1317
Realist 
Not like you flowerpot, 🌹 idealist
And equality is there if people are prepared to work toward it, otherwise, get what you get
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#1319 4 Jul 2020 at 6.19pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1317
I don’t think forcing the teaching of past atrocities on kids at school and leaving history teachers to explain them on already limited time is fair and too open to being interpreted differently regionally and from one individual to another. Further education of young adults is different..
Parents should have the responsibility of raising their own children to be understanding of different cultures and leave teachers to concentrate on the curriculum. It’s not hidden history, the entire documented history of mankind is available online or at libraries for those interested. Sadly it occasionally breeds extremism and is dangerous to only touch on briefly with young, impressionable minds.
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#1318 4 Jul 2020 at 5.50pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1316
Similarly to you saying I never provide any detail on how to combat inequality. Why can’t it be resolved? What is your reasoning for that being the case?
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#1317 4 Jul 2020 at 5.47pm | | | |
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Not with your attitude it can’t. You’re part of the problem. Pessimist more than an optimist. You don’t want equality so don’t see how it can be achieved and constantly put the idea down.
You honestly don’t have much to say about the points I make. You don’t want to acknowledge the REAL history not a selective history where bad things are erased. That education is key to progressing forward as a society.
I’ve given you multiple ways to stop discrimination and ensure equality. You just don’t want to read it because it’s actually sensible and doesn’t fit your “it won’t work” agenda.
Stop discrimination of all kinds. To the point you don’t need diversity inclusion forms to force employers to consider BAME or disabled candidates. In an equal society that needn’t exist because it doesn’t matter. The fact it exists means we aren’t anywhere near having equality to all.
Police could do a proper job and take drugs off the streets, remove child grooming for gangs and you stop children loads of kids dropping out of education and ending up a slave to gangs. Stop all crime. If you get life for nicking a loaf of bread people wouldn’t do it. They’d stay in school and get an education. “Police need more funding” I hear you say... then tax the rich properly like I said so the money is available. Stop spending pointless money on hs2 or £25m to a company to get PPE that has never traded and has no employees.
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#1316 4 Jul 2020 at 5.23pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1315
I typed a few paragraphs and then deleted them, sometimes you have to realise when you are just banging your head against a wall. You have still not resolved the equality issue or even looked at it have you, just another load of tosh skirting around the subject because you know it can’t be resolved can it?
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#1315 4 Jul 2020 at 4.24pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1313
Disagree, history is written. If anything we should leave it alone, respect it and learn from it
Teaching the full story not just selective bits. For instance we don’t teach anyone anything about the British empire. No one wants to change or delete history, just to tell the actual real history. Burying your head in the sand that the British empire didn’t round up Africans and rape, torture and murder them in concentration camps after stealing their land is frankly incredibly sad. It’s omitted from education so how can anyone learn from it?
Everyone has equal rights in our country. It’s what you do that matters
They are meant to but they don’t. For instance fathers don’t have equal rights when it comes to parental custody. Men don’t have equal rights when falsely accused of rape. Just this week a female judge let a woman off a jail sentence after she had a sexual relationship with a 14yr old boy because its was consensual and they had genuine feelings’...reverse the genders and it would have never happened and been a national scandal.
It’s not equal rights to be racially profiled but it happens daily. Harsher punishments being for example if a police officer racially profiled and harasses someone they should lose their job instead of nothing happening. They’d stop pretty quickly.
As I said I didn’t list the entire revamp of society that’s needed to create equality, just some. More learning resources instead of funding cuts to education would start. There’s thousands of social and economic things that need to change before true equality can exist and none are easy to do when you have racism and people that are unwilling to try to better themselves and the country like yourself.
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#1314 4 Jul 2020 at 4.05pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1312
Sorry Greekskii, always thought it was a T not a K........
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#1313 4 Jul 2020 at 4.04pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1312
Stop discrimination by Ensuring kids don’t grow up racist. Social services will take children out of households where they are being taught racist or other discriminatory values, as they do with other harmful situations.
Agree
Educate people properly and remove white supremacy from history (Jesus wasn’t white was he)
Disagree, history is written. If anything we should leave it alone, respect it and learn from it
Give everyone equal rights. Harsher punishment on authorities that profile people and abuse power.
Everyone has equal rights in our country. It’s what you do that matters
Harsher punishments, example of the wrong?
And you have still not tackled the main underlying problem have you. Equality. The people at the bottom and all these jobs that they need. The things that will make the real difference
Dream on 
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#1312 4 Jul 2020 at 3.55pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1309
Stop discrimination by Ensuring kids don’t grow up racist. Social services will take children out of households where they are being taught racist or other discriminatory values, as they do with other harmful situations. Educate people properly and remove white supremacy from history (Jesus wasn’t white was he)
Give everyone equal rights. Harsher punishment on authorities that profile people and abuse power.
Some of many things that could be done to remove discrimination over time. It won’t be a quick fix but it’s possible. Unless you have unwilling participants like involved but they’ll die one day and then they won’t be an issue.
I believe if you disagree that everyone should have the same opportunity in life and not be discriminated against then you are clearly part of the issue aren’t you?
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#1311 4 Jul 2020 at 3.55pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1310
It was only a joke mate, since Trump got called it, it seems to be the new buzz word lol
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#1310 4 Jul 2020 at 3.53pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1304
As I've been involved for 30 years in training apprentices and under grads, the last 15 including more and more female's. I've seen it first hand mate. 
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#1309 4 Jul 2020 at 3.45pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1308
Let’s agree to disagree.
There’s already a schooling system in place, you either make use of it or you do not, simple
BLM - Jobs and homes
You can say whatever you like but what I posted is the reality. So, as I said, how are you going to change it?
How are you going to create this equality?
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I will give you a starter, create 5 million new jobs and try to fill them with people who do not have the skills, work ethic, desire or will to work?
How will you create these 5 million jobs, how will you get all this investment? in America it’s probably about 50 million, how are you going to sort the USA out too?
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#1308 4 Jul 2020 at 3.41pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1306
Who said everyone had to be employed or we want to give everyone a job?
A fair chance at getting a job.... so it seems like you are missing the point aren’t you.
I think you are trying to drag people down to your basic level tbh. I fully understand that race, gender, sexuality, upbringing, poverty, postcode and many other things create Inequality within society. To say that simply if you have to work hard enough to get what you want doesn’t actually take in to account that some people have to work harder than others due to one or more of those reasons I have mentioned above. And if you acknowledge that and say “well they should just work harder” that means you don’t want equality because people shouldn’t have to. That is the whole point you seem to be blindly or intentionally failing to realise.
I said before, taxing rich people properly and not letting them avoid tax would be a start to increase available funding for things like libraries, community centres, better school funding, etc.
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