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   Old Thread  #1051 28 Jun 2020 at 9.06am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I get the picture in my head, Jon thinks like Robin Hood taking from the rich and giving to the poor, wasnít he an outlaw?

He was indeed Scozza, as well as being an all round good bloke who enjoyed having a laugh, and was very successful with the maidens, despite the tights.

The UK has one of the widest gaps between the rich and the poor. If you're comfortable making that gap even wider by taking away from those at the bottom of the pile, fair enough, but I wouldn't be.

The sheriff of Nottingham wasn't an outlaw, but was widely regarded as a bit of a ****.

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   Old Thread  #1050 28 Jun 2020 at 8.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Or they could just tax the rich properly and stop tax evasion and make them pay their fair share like everyone else does. That might work.

I think a lot of you are ignoring an obvious factor in poverty and crime. It happens all over the world. Children are groomed from a young age to be part of drug gangs. Here you have the ďcounty linesĒ problem happening right now in the present. Children as young as 11 being groomed to get involved in the drugs trade. Corrupted from a young age. Poverty plays its part because living in a poor estate youíre likely to encounter this more than if you are better off. Simple as that.

Oh and BB you always try to make everything left vs right. But the truth is both the left and right have contributed to the problems and issues that now exist. Thatís in all areas of life tbh. Trying to make one look like they did one less turd in the ****show just makes you look a bit silly tbh.

I heard a quote from a black person which is probably controversial but itís also worth thinking about.
Black people in America only ever asked For equality when they could have sought revenge
Now itís very true. They were promised a lot post slavery and got none of it, since then theyíve only ever asked to be treated equally. After what they were subjected to for centuries They could well have gone out for revenge couldnít they, punished the people oppressing them. But they didnít. Maybe itís half the Reason they were kept oppressed, white fear of being enslaved themselves or Killed off.
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   Old Thread  #1049 28 Jun 2020 at 7.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A 'rich' economy like the UK should be able to give everyone enough to survive on, no matter what their motivation is.

Load of bollox, rich, your having a laugh. What we need to do is sort it out and make it stronger!

I get the picture in my head, Jon thinks like Robin Hood taking from the rich and giving to the poor, wasnít he an outlaw?

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   Old Thread  #1048 28 Jun 2020 at 7.04am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
America has black billionaires black millionaires black judges black businessmen black business owners black cops black mayors black politicians itís done to the individual itís a joke BLM and crazy liberal lefties white life matters when do we need to stop apologizing for the past itís a joke if they donít like it they can try to get back to country of origin see how they get on on
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   Old Thread  #1047 28 Jun 2020 at 0.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Ocelot,

No, I'm not on drugs.
You spoke of your great leader JFK, a Democrat and referenced to me, your man, meaning Trump a
Republican.
Your implications were quite obvious.

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   Old Thread  #1046 28 Jun 2020 at 0.26am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi noj,

I actually care about the murder and mayhem that goes on in those black inner cities and think they have been badly let down and neglected by their politicians.
If you think my efforts to try and understand their problems and the answers to them is sanctimonious tripe, then you are entitled to your opinion. All I can say is that my concern is genuine.
As I said, if you dismiss the credibility of the people I referenced, then who do you think has the credibility to understand the issues and offer viable solutions?
You say about reading books doesn't make you an expert. Well these men actually wrote the books on the subject. And I certainly don't consider myself a voice for US blacks.

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   Old Thread  #1045 27 Jun 2020 at 11.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Are you on drugs?
Where did I mention any political party. Something's definitely warped.
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   Old Thread  #1044 27 Jun 2020 at 11.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Ocelot,

You have a warped view of the reality.
The 1964 civil rights act only passed because most Republican senators voted for it. It wouldn't have passed otherwise because most southern Democrats opposed it. Remember it was Dems who brought in the Jim Crow segregation laws in the first place.
States have much autonomy in the government of their states and are directly responsible for their police, schools etc. and the welfare and social conditions of their citizens. Most inner city black cities have been totally controlled by Dems for decades with little or no improvement to their social conditions.
8 years of Obama made no difference either. Since Trump came in office, several important improvements have been made, which I listed in previous posts. Why didn't Obama introduce these measures?
Democrat mayors now want to defund the police and make black communities even more murderous.
How stupid and irresponsible is that? The lunatics really have taken over the asylum.

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   Old Thread  #1043 27 Jun 2020 at 11.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry BB, but Iíll be honest. I canít take your sanctimonious regurgitations of tripe by a couple of blokes that were poor in the 60s seriously.
Iíve read books on astronomy but it doesnít make me Patrick Moore, same as you arenít a voice for African Americans
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   Old Thread  #1042 27 Jun 2020 at 10.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'll just go back to ignoring you as usual.
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   Old Thread  #1041 27 Jun 2020 at 10.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Jon,

Use your own damn phrases and don't plagiarize mine.
I have the armour of self confidence to dismiss your feeble insults.

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   Old Thread  #1040 27 Jun 2020 at 10.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The kid will have United States of America stamped on it when he gets a passport. Not Chicago or Charleston. Your figures show the totally disproportionate lives led by Americans with black skin. That's been like that for far too long. Federal government is the only way to change the status quo as a great leader JFK did before with the eventual 64 Civil Rights Act. Your man can wheel out all the talking coloured heads he wants, the audience aren't listening anymore. They see him as a bulwark of the problem.
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   Old Thread  #1039 27 Jun 2020 at 10.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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When your go-to economic guru is Patrick Minford, you can't complain when your experts of choice on other subjects don't get instant respect.



Who said that?
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   Old Thread  #1038 27 Jun 2020 at 10.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Hey guys, enough about me itís embarrassing.....

Correct though, subconscious stereotyping......
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   Old Thread  #1037 27 Jun 2020 at 10.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi noj,

Both of those black professors grew up in poor conditions in the time of segregation. One was adopted by an aunt and the other raised by a single mother. They have written many books on the cultural conditions of modern black Social history. They are considered experts on the subject.
If they and the other commentators I mentioned, are not qualified to understand the black community, I wonder who you think is? It's social history and community relations, not quantum physics.
The homicide figures I quoted were from official FBI crime stats. Not sure how easily they could be manipulated. Not sure why you seem determined to dismiss the credibility of the above experts?

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