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Social media has got a LOT to answer for and I don’t think we fully understand the effects and the magnitude as yet. Brainwashing material that will have a SERIOUS psychological impact longer term 
I don’t want to divert from the topic but kids looking at porn whilst underage, murders, beheadings, you name it. Not to mention ganging up and bullying, there are kids taking their lives, absolutely way out of control imho, disgraceful 
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#367 10 Jun 2020 at 7.00pm | | |
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Social media makes it massively worse because now people are pressured into taking a stance one way or the other, you need to visibly align yourself to a cause quickly because to say nothing and not jump straight on the bandwagon now is seen as supporting "the other side" anyway.
People are expressing allegiances based on media presented options - "If you're not THIS then you must be THAT" "You don't want to be known as THAT do you?" "pick a box!"
And once you pick one it's a brave person who's happy to recant and lose face so publicly.
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#366 10 Jun 2020 at 6.50pm | | |
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Made me laugh that 
I see the author is J. Corbin? 
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#365 10 Jun 2020 at 6.49pm | | |
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Great post but unfortunately both sides want admit any faults.
And as always the media stirring, omitting and pulling peoples chains for reactions.
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#364 10 Jun 2020 at 6.35pm | | |
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Just another factor in the equation.
Each “side” clings to the blame of certain factors as the only cause when the reality is when you look at all the factors none of them are the cause in isolation.
They’re all propping each other up like a house of cards.
Each side conveniently ignoring half the evidence.
This media whipped emotional s**tstorm is doing nothing of use to anyone.
Until both sides start acknowledging and addressing the problems in their own camps nothing will ever change.
Looks like at least in the short term some change is coming, let’s hope it does’t lose momentum and that both sides will keep the emotion out of the conversation and all the facts in it.
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#363 10 Jun 2020 at 6.09pm | | |
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I think this study carries some weight , especially why people can fear change and be susceptible and manipulated by right wing ideology and no , it's not having a dig at certain people and obviously there will be exceptions !
link .
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#362 10 Jun 2020 at 3.49pm | | |
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Absolutely nothing has changed over the last 300 years.........If you can be arsed search up the latest series of "A House Through Time" which follows a particular house and it's occupants from the earliest known records. In this latest one, (ironically in Bristol given recent events) it starts in 1720 and over the two episodes i have seen so far it has covered off........ racism, riots, protests, looting, corrupt politics, pandemic disease, prostitution, bigamy, police brutality, wife beating, substance abuse, gang fights, abject poverty, anarchy, piracy.....etc etc......
Any of that sound familiar.....?
Take down the statues of those that now bring shame but remember that if it wasn't for some, none of us would be here......Churchil has been vilified in recent reports but he defended the world against the biggest racist of them all who would have slaughtered millions....
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#361 10 Jun 2020 at 3.43pm | | |
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I will sleep well Jon, no changes for me personally......but the left is trying it’s hardest to gain back ground from the right!!
Everyone is given the same opportunity from school, you either make something of yourself from it or skip most classes and then blame the current system, lack of equal opportunity, racism, religious hatred etc etc etc.....complete bull****!
Decide what you want and go for it, or sit on your arse and moan.
Of now for an afternoon nap wondering what might of been if I hadn’t skipped so many classes...... 
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#360 10 Jun 2020 at 3.30pm | | |
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Stop with the jollity in this thread your dragging it down and making it relevant 
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#359 10 Jun 2020 at 3.23pm | | |
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You’re thinking of St Ewart’s Hall, Dulwich College, where it is rumoured that a certain former pupil spent his time reciting Hitler Youth songs when, long before the internet, it was really quite hard to find the lyrics.
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#358 10 Jun 2020 at 3.14pm | | |
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As with children tell them to do something its done begrudgingly but encourage them to do it and they will do it with glee
The media has caused so much division in society in recent years its unforgivable. But good news travels in a slower lane than bad!
I was watching the news updates on the internet by the BBC and SKY on the london protest. Just after the violence started on SKY the BBC live updates closed, said goodnight and they would be back tomorrow
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#357 10 Jun 2020 at 3.03pm | | |
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Sorry about your dad mate - my best wishes of course.
On thread - Thousands more peaceful protesters than riots / vandalism both here and in the US, but that doesn't make for sexy news does it? The trouble last week with the police horse etc.was after the main protest but that line was thrown away by the newscasters.
I'm happy to alienate far right white supremacists.
But you are right that the 'general public' need to see the positive aspects of this movement. It feels different than before. It feels like more people see the importance and more people are supportive. Hopefully the idiots who will look to undermine it all won't become the focal point.
Jon -  very funny
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#356 10 Jun 2020 at 2.55pm | | |
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Stuart Hall?
Another National Trust property built with the profits from the slave trade I expect.
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#355 10 Jun 2020 at 2.49pm | | |
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not for this thread but I was a blanker ****er
Dad was home a day and collapsed again the next day so back to hospital so not good 
Back on thread
Discrimination leads to positive discrimination leads to discrimination leads to positive discrimination..... Both have to go to provide equilibrium Its not an overnight repair and I do not believe that todays society is as broken as its made out to be!
But with the mob rule shown last weekend will only rile people and next it will be the right wing out counter protesting and protecting statues. The message and feeling will now move from its initial valid protestations into a left/right power struggle and the message will be forgotten.
They lost the general public when the first missile was thrown, the first punch connected and the first horse harmed. Its now moved onto censoring TV programmes and films, companies supporting the sentiment but then again to late and i cynically think its free advertising and arguments over historical monuments.
How does this help heal the cracks in society, it alienates one to embrace another, when all should be embraced!
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#354 10 Jun 2020 at 2.44pm | | |
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Can we stop mentioning ‘It’s a Knockout‘? Uncomfortable reminders of Stuart Hall and the Duke of York.
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