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   Old Thread  #56 3 Aug 2020 at 10.11am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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To be fair the Fox sinkers work ok, the bead just needs a slight squeeze to get a tighter fit
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   Old Thread  #55 2 Aug 2020 at 2.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ibhooks have them in stock
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   Old Thread  #54 2 Aug 2020 at 9.05am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thnx AJM.
Just tried this with the Sinker still on the system, and seems to fit nice.
Will give it a go on a session - see how it works.
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   Old Thread  #53 2 Aug 2020 at 8.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yikes - I coudn't get the Korda 4 mills over the small sinker.
I beleive the 5 mm beads work with a small sinker though.
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   Old Thread  #52 1 Aug 2020 at 8.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #51 1 Aug 2020 at 9.51am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Good find, unfortunately out of stock

To be honest I just gave-in in the end and bought another Korda kit
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   Old Thread  #50 31 Jul 2020 at 5.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Looks like others are following suit now ... Poltergeist tackle 👍

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   Old Thread  #49 28 Jun 2020 at 3.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #48 26 Jun 2020 at 3.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Couldn't agree more , I've got so many spare beads in my tackle box . I will give the medium sinkers a go .
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   Old Thread  #47 26 Jun 2020 at 2.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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nail on the head!
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   Old Thread  #46 26 Jun 2020 at 11.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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True dat.
It'd be nice to think they'll react by offering them separately. Let's face it, it's bye-bye sales if they don't.
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   Old Thread  #45 26 Jun 2020 at 10.06am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Ironically if Korda just sold the bloody things separately we wouldn't be having this discussion and there would have been no demand for another company to copy them
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   Old Thread  #44 26 Jun 2020 at 8.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iím not disagreeing with any of that , just glad someone has had brought out a cheaper version , Korda wonít miss the drop in sales Iím sure
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   Old Thread  #43 25 Jun 2020 at 10.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think most people who think the chod sleeves should be sold seperately would agree with your post.
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   Old Thread  #42 25 Jun 2020 at 8.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally agree, would reduce other costs on my food and beer than try and save a ££ on a cheap copy that hasnít had the worked put into it
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   Old Thread  #41 25 Jun 2020 at 12.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Indeed - would have loved to have been there!
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   Old Thread  #40 25 Jun 2020 at 12.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
It was exactly this that triggered Penning's baseball bat incident over the Krusha
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   Old Thread  #39 25 Jun 2020 at 12.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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For sure mate. I work in manufacturing so know very well how prototype costs can escalate. Not so much of a problem for genuine mass production but for the carp industry it could be a real killer as you said
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   Old Thread  #38 25 Jun 2020 at 9.15am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Probably is yonny,
but as the figures were there I used them for no other purpose but for the example
Not many Times you actually hear the costs Involved


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   Old Thread  #37 25 Jun 2020 at 8.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Poor example imo framey, that is small change for a company like Korda, they are a 20M/yr firm.
But I totally agree with your point - I can imagine some of plastic stuff costs a fortune to develop as you'll need completely new tools/moulds for each design change.
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   Old Thread  #36 24 Jun 2020 at 5.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I watched the latest Korda videos and Iím sure hairy says hooks were £1000 a thousand hooks as a prototype And you have to buy 1000 at a time.
Every time you alter something thatís another grand for a thousand
Someone has to pay for it somewhere itís a lot of money to get back from a relatively small market
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   Old Thread  #35 24 Jun 2020 at 11.32am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They also came up with the idea and paid for all the R&D costs. I'm not a Korda fanboy before anyone starts, but theres no doubt about it - they have invented some clever bits of kit over the years. The safety beads, the Krusha, and the heli drop off kit to name a few.

Developing these products costs a lot money and they have to recoup it - they also invest more than any other tackle firm on marketing - again this needs to be paid for. Theres a reason they're the most successful tackle company.

Yes their kit is a bit more expensive but its all relative. If you're sitting in a £700 bivvy complaining about the price of lead clips you need to have a long hard look in the mirror - if you stare long enough a vision of Danny Fairbrass will stare back at you and plant subliminal messages in your subconscious to always drop the lead.

True story.

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   Old Thread  #34 23 Jun 2020 at 11.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yep 👍, good on him , how Korda can charge what they do for bits of rubber and plastic is a joke , proper have our pants down , then again you pay your money and take your choice
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   Old Thread  #33 23 Jun 2020 at 3.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #32 23 Jun 2020 at 2.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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not ripping you off, but definitely ripping Korda off!
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   Old Thread  #31 22 Jun 2020 at 1.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I reuse them. Bit of a faff but they can be got back on the small wire that they come on.

Like all things carpy the sleeves come in packs of 3 the beads in packs of 10. Makes sense from a business perspective
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   Old Thread  #30 22 Jun 2020 at 12.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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J precision.. Well done, not ripping us off, brilliant stuff..
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   Old Thread  #29 22 Jun 2020 at 7.38am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
@Chuffy, J Precision advert on FB today. They'll be doing 10 sleeves for 2 quid. Naked and leadcore versions
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   Old Thread  #28 20 Jun 2020 at 10.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks, might be the ticket.
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   Old Thread  #27 20 Jun 2020 at 10.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yup, the beads are no problem,just pull them off, re use.
Not like they'll lose out much if they were to make the Chod Sleeve available to buy seperate, especially now with so many sheep using Spinner rigs.
Sort it out, Danny.
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   Old Thread  #26 20 Jun 2020 at 8.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you wet them and slide them off you can mount them onto a needle
Feed a bit of line through the eye of the needle and slide them onto the doubled over line
The key is plenty of spit or water so they donít stretch and turn inside out And a small needle
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   Old Thread  #25 20 Jun 2020 at 7.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I get you. I dont use the same rig twice but I do re-use beads/sleeves.
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   Old Thread  #24 20 Jun 2020 at 7.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Some people change their rigs (believe it or not), and are unable to keep them on their lines.
They should be made available seperate. It's not like Korda are struggling.
I do like many Korda products and get a bit fed up with the Korda bashing, but in this example it's disappointing, and they deserve the flak.
Fact of the matter it's greed \ profit making.
Danny Fairbrass is constantly saying these items should be mandatory, yet he's contradicting himself by bending people over in this example.
They could easily make these items available seperately without buying the whole kit and ripping people off.
Disappointing.
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   Old Thread  #23 17 Jun 2020 at 6.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I just reuse mine lol
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   Old Thread  #22 17 Jun 2020 at 6.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They're 2 quid a rod and unleas you crack off they'll last a season. I don't think it's a massive deal tbh? It's part of the business end, the last thing you want to be skimping on imo. Save the money on the big stuff (bivvy etc), not the little bits that catch you the fish.
The time it's taken me to write this is worth more than the couple of pounds to be saved on this kind of product.
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   Old Thread  #21 17 Jun 2020 at 4.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Indeed but it's cynicism like that that makes me cynical the next time I come to buy a korda product.

Given a choice korda are always my last resort......
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   Old Thread  #20 17 Jun 2020 at 2.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Crafty bit of marketing so you have to buy the whole kit
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   Old Thread  #19 17 Jun 2020 at 2.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Following this......

Why korda can't just sell the correct size item separately is beyond me, obviously beyond korda too....
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   Old Thread  #17 16 Jun 2020 at 8.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry for late reply Chuffy
I think they worked for me because I used them on leadless leader not naked So that would have made them slightly thinker and I possibly nipped the bead, apologies for the vagueness but it was awhile ago
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   Old Thread  #16 10 Jun 2020 at 7.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Chuffy, try the nash/taska large sinkers, they work a treat for me...
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   Old Thread  #15 10 Jun 2020 at 11.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Korda medium sinkers matched with Korda 4mm beads. Perfect for top beads on a naked heli
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   Old Thread  #14 10 Jun 2020 at 8.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You might be right there, the Korda Large Sinkers look like a better fit, still not tried them on the line though
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   Old Thread  #13 4 Jun 2020 at 2.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They are a bit too small, they just about work if you squash the no trace bead a bit...
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   Old Thread  #12 4 Jun 2020 at 9.15am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Great - thanks for reply, I will give the fox ones a try
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No, they are too small, to be honest they are rubbish as well not one of Bank Tackle's finest moments for sure, just like rock hard bits of rubber

However the Fox Tapered Mainline Sinkers/Stoppers look like they will be spot on, haven't tried them on the line yet but the bead sits nicely on sinker out of the packet so should work.
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Hi mate. Did this work?
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Nope sorry canít find it anymore
Donít want to send you on a wasted half hour search so deleted*
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@ chamenie
do you mean THESE
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Thanks for the suggestions all I'll take a look

Just ordered some large sinkers from Bank Tackle maybe they'll do
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   Old Thread  #6 21 May 2020 at 3.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think fox do a tapered tungsten sinker that will take the no trace beads
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   Old Thread  #5 21 May 2020 at 3.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I use the Korda Large Tungsten Sinkers with a No Trace Bead.
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drennan float stop with a 5mm bead works or just a larger version of the stop, line breaks and it pulls straight off.
only need 1 bead then
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   Old Thread  #3 21 May 2020 at 9.33am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That sounds like a crafty idea, bit of a faff though to be honest, I'm sure someone must know of a sinker that's available that does the job or is everyone just buying the 3 packs every time
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Iv managed it by putting a tiny bit of putty on the line then putting shrink tube over the top and shrinking it down, seems to work OK.
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i know this has been done a few times in the past but with no definitive answers.

Has any one found an alternative that works with the 'No trace' beads as I now have loads of them but am reluctant to buy another whole kit just to get the sleeves the beads sit on, maybe a sinker works?
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