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In reply to Post #64 The old Aqua black label stuff is UK made, the more modern black label stuff isn't (AFAIA)
Pukka are branding some products on their site as 100% British, but not all.
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In reply to Post #63 Are you sure the aqua black label range is uk made ?
I would highly doubt the pukka range of clothing is uk made either probably the branding and extra bits are but that would be all
but stand to be corrected
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In reply to Post #1 Right,
Been looking into this as this pandemic came at a time when I was starting to build up a three rod set up.
I currently have a lighter two rod set up which is dual use for Chub/Barbel/Carp to high doubles on smaller venues
So,
This is what I've gathered. There may be some discrepancies based on products built cheaply for high volume sales
Shimano - Japanese/Taiwan/Malaysia. Unsure of items such as the "Beastmaster/Alivio/Powerloop" range
Daiwa - Scottish Factory manufacture a large amount. Unsure of items such as the "Black Widow/D Carp" range
Cotswold - UK
Aqua - Union Jack/Black Label range - UK
Matrix - UK
Solar with the Lockey Label - UK
Defiant MPS - UK
Chris Brown Products - UK
Nix - UK
Gardner - TLB Alarms Made in the UK
Jag - UK
Nbrice - UK
Born & Bred - UK
Heritage - UK
Pukka Carping Rags - Some items of clothing UK made
Summit - UK
Dymag - UK
Feel free to add your own...
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| mal | Posts: 8910 | | |
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Dragons Den on Sunday night...
'If you shift manufacture to China we can bring that unit cost down....'
It's like a mantra for British business owners to increase profits... can't see it changing as if they did decide to bring production in to the uk costs would increase and they'd simply pass that on to the consumer who would seek cheaper options from.... china maybe?
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In reply to Post #60 Strange because I remember reading that the business had been neglected due to the fact the management spent to much time fishing abroad and it was the bank that stepped in and rescued it. The production of the then small range was shipped over seas to maximise margins which gave the necessary capital to invest in new products, Kevin has always been good at the development side of things.
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In reply to Post #59 I remember a Kevin Nash interview, when he said that he was forced to seek production abroad in the 90’s, because British women (who used to be the main workers on production lines and factories) suddenly decided that they wanted office jobs and were no longer interested in factory jobs. Although this may sound a little sexist, I suppose it is true. During and post war factories were always full of women of all ages, but I can’t imagine that happening now.
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In reply to Post #58 Do we actually manufacture anything here now apart from high end niche market goods?
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In reply to Post #1 This Country has changed from being "the workshop of the world" to a service economy. I think a lot of Companies are looking at how they struggled to get supplies from the far east and looking into if it would be better to produce it here. Unfortunately it is cheaper to produce stuff overseas, especially in China. I hope that when this pandemic is over and the massive global recession and mass unemployment it will cause will see some sort of re balance. Sorry to be a cheery soul but the world has changed and it will never be quite the same again. Apparently we didn't make any ventilators in this Country (several manufacturers doing so now.) If we have to import them, we'll also be last in the queue to receive them as the manufacturing Countries will keep them for themselves (and who could blame them?)
Years ago goods carried a "Made in Great Britain" tag and it made you feel better buying goods you knew were produced in the Country and ensured employment. When we leave the EU, perhaps that could make a comeback? I have been as guilty as the next person in buying as cheaply as possible but it always troubled me that in doing so the rich traders have been making profits whilst the squeezed middle class were forced into McJobs to keep the wheels turning.
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In reply to Post #56 I will do when I next speak to her. A 30 second Google shows everything though.
https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/made-in-italy-by-chinese-workers,377237.html
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In reply to Post #55 Can you ask your sister what designer brands do that?
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In reply to Post #54 My sister goes to Milan every year with her shops owner to buy in the top end handbags, shoes etc for her shop in Alderley Edge. Has done for 20 year's. In that time she tells me that it's all Chinese businessmen nowadays in the fashion industry of the Milan region. They outsourced the manufacture of designer brands to the Chinese but wanted to keep the Made in Italy badge. So the Chinese firms brought their workers over to work in Chinese owned factories in the region. Hence the high travel rates between Milan and China.
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In reply to Post #52 Any reason why Lombardy first and not say Rome, Naples, London or Berlin?
Don't know, and until the 'patient zero' for the Lombardy outbreak is identified, it's just speculation.
The first outbreak was in Codugno, which is a pretty small town which doesnt have much industry.
I'm pretty sure you could easily find out how many flights from the Wuhan area arrive in Milan compared with Rome, London etc. I fly regularly from the three Milan airports, I've never noticed more Chinese around compared with other airports. Google it ... I'd be interested to know.
No doubt the virus came from China, but whether it was a tourist, a businessman or someone else of either or any nationality is anyone's guess. Local media were speculating that patient zero could have been a German businessman a couple of weeks ago.
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In reply to Post #52 If after laughing at him Jon still chooses to answer you it'll be accurate as he lives in northern Italy and is experiencing the devastation first hand.
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In reply to Post #51
Any reason why Lombardy first and not say Rome, Naples, London or Berlin?
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In reply to Post #50 Isn't the reason the region in Italy was hit so hard because of outsourcing? Having outsourced all the fashion industry, which the region is known for, to China, the travelling of people between Milan and China is unusually high. Helping the virus to spread quickly.
Seems they're paying dearly now for the low cost.
No it isn't.
... and clothes are cheaper in the UK.
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