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wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #20 27 Mar 2020 at 8.16pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #19
Great shout,I'll try and contact him.🖖
Goose
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Goose
   Old Thread  #19 27 Mar 2020 at 8.02pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #18
Chris Ball has Donald's stocking records.
wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #18 27 Mar 2020 at 7.07pm    Login    Register
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And.......and I'm glad Midlandman started this thread,because there is a connection here in Cornwall with Donald Leney,Surrey trout farm,if the info I have is correct..

Many years ago now i was a member of a three man membership lake,that lake formerly known as Shillamill,nr lanreath.Before John Facey sold it to Christine and John,I was told the fish were of the same heritage as Bernithan carp,leney fish....now,I fished there pretty much solo for seven yrs til it was sold to'they party'...upwards..,I caught a lot of fish,fish that were not like any other carp I caught before..I have ALL the pics in 35mm,blind taken using a cane for focusing,and air release system....

The lakes,were terribly ottered and a Alfa slurry tank disaster did for the lakes health,sadly its now shut as a fishery,and used purely for aesthetic hot tub holidays...urrrrrrhhhhhh..

Skeff has the list,or a list of Donalds stocking's but it remains to be seen if my info is true..

There is also a small water down Kernow,which was reptuted to have wildies,not ferals but proper wildies,the ones with the prominent notch,like welsh wildies...I have caught one of these too...
wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #17 27 Mar 2020 at 6.32pm    Login    Register
My favourite book is 'confessions of a carp angler'by BB,every night I read a page or two before I sleep,I must have read that book lots of times...

Anyway,being very interested in the history of carp angling,BB alludes to moving carp from Beechmere to another water some 15 miles from the coppermine,he used to embasket the small carp and relocate them...I also happen to have found another water,another open cast mine that also has carp from Beechmere in its depths,...I know this as the groundsman above my lake uses the quarry for his peregrine studies and lives near the quarry...

Also,...interestingly a water once fished by the god father of Cornish carping..(Ken)....its mentioned in Swest memories,had fish from the A 30 ponds when the road tween Kernow and Exrter was built...they were mirrors...

I also found that Peter Mohan,was instrumental in stocking many quarries locally,my fishing partner lives literally next to an old pit,all stocked by Peter..
BBGEOFF
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BBGEOFF
   Old Thread  #16 27 Mar 2020 at 6.13pm    Login    Register
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I remember a conversation with Roger Smith in the mid 80s where he recounted tales of sml carp coming from Redmire and some of the lakes that they ended up in.
I find it hard to imagine fish going in the other direction. it doesn't make a lot of sense. Although Carp migration in the late 70s and early 80s was rife.
The_Saint
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The_Saint
   Old Thread  #15 27 Mar 2020 at 7.46am    Login    Register
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I could not read springates first book, there seemed to have been no proof reading and one paragraph was repeated twice in the book.
Goose
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   Old Thread  #14 27 Mar 2020 at 7.44am    Login    Register
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Jellied them obviously
oldgeezer
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   Old Thread  #13 26 Mar 2020 at 11.42pm    Login    Register
I was amazed at the VERY large eels that were coming up not sure what they did with those ?
SPINBOWLER
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SPINBOWLER
   Old Thread  #12 26 Mar 2020 at 10.45pm    Login    Register
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A lot of moody things happened back then a lot of stuff that would be frowned on today. Don't believe the BS though not everything was done for the fish's interest.
midlandman
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midlandman
   Old Thread  #11 26 Mar 2020 at 10.35pm    Login    Register
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Nice post mate. Reassuring to me that other people are interested in such things!
Goose
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Goose
   Old Thread  #10 26 Mar 2020 at 6.40pm    Login    Register
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All have a huge dollop of poetic licence as well, would take everything he says or writes with a large pinch of salt.
Daveb36
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Daveb36
   Old Thread  #9 26 Mar 2020 at 5.57pm    Login    Register
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All of Maylin's books have an unfinished feel to them. Lazy editing I call it

I do know that some of Redmire's most famous anglers have moved stock away from the lake but have never heard of fish going in to it.
jeffire
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jeffire
   Old Thread  #8 26 Mar 2020 at 4.36pm    Login    Register
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Thats true some of those went into a private lake in the midlands that i fished very good looking fish they are now.
Andy_P
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   Old Thread  #7 26 Mar 2020 at 4.25pm    Login    Register
During the mid to late 70's Redmire suffered from some very low water levels, the then syndicate members were asked if they wanted some of the smaller fish to stock into other waters, to allow more oxygen and space for the bigger residents. This offer was taken up by a few members one of which was the fishery manager of a certain club I used to fish at the time, the offspring of these carp have done very well indeed.


spodboy
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spodboy
   Old Thread  #6 26 Mar 2020 at 4.18pm    Login    Register
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Was interested to read your comments - love this period of Carp fishing history and am currently re-reading Pete Springates book Carp side of the Moon - reading his chronology Yeoveney was drained down in the close season of 1978 they netted it three or four times with the majority of the fish going into Longfield (including the two fish in the famous brace pic of Pete that ended up in Carp Fever) and eventually about 15 fish into Wraysbury - in the book Pete says towards the end of the ‘78 close season him and Kenny netted the last 2 fish from a muddy puddle in the drained Yeoveney and slipped them into Wraysbury they were 2 mirrors about 14lb each. As said previously don’t think Pete had access to redmire until early 1980’s So not saying fish did not move but they weren’t from Yeoveney
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