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This virus is a nightmare, but if you are a linear carp its heaven. The rest these fish are getting is much needed when the lakes are constantly hammered
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In reply to Post #12
In my job we have had to close the restaurant, bar and spa, although at the moment the hotel and golf course is still open. If the hotel gets closed, as it is likely to, there will still need to be a skeleton staff day and night to keep maintenance and security. So from 100 odd staff, there will be 10-12 who have to stay on, the rest will be put on furlough.
I feel for the owners having to work out who!
I know Anglian Water have shut all their fisheries and country parks, which puts my self isolation on my holiday up the creek as I had planned on fishing. It also increases my risk if I have to stay at home as I would then need to mix with people when I need to top up my gas and electric cards at the local shops, compared to using no energy while fishing.
One thing though, the government has said that to go into second home on the coast is non essential travel, so may stop a few pulling a fast one.
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In reply to Post #36
Explain to me what’s laughable about what I’ve put? I’ve asked a simple enough question about how the statistics are collected. For clarity.
Perhaps you’d like to call up the medical lady who appeared With borris today and tell her she’s laughable as well, as she was raising this exact point about skewed statistics when comparing to other outbreaks and how other countries count their infections etc. But obviously she doesn’t know quite as much about it as you does she.
You’re in danger of making yourself look laughable.
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In reply to Post #35
Laughable... I'll let you guys crack on as you dont seem to get it
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I’ve noticed the language around the deaths is quite careful. The don’t ever say that someone with underlying conditions died of coronavirus. They say that someone has died who was confirmed to be infected with covid19. A subtle difference but I wonder how many of these people were already in the final stages of life anyway before infection. So if the predicted 20000 deaths. Is that twenty thousand deaths above the actual number that would have died anyway or 20000 deaths including those that would have died? That has a baring on how deadly this actually is in the general population.
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In reply to Post #32
I never said every weekend at all. I do around 3/4 nights a month. And how I live my life as **** all to do with anyone on here. You all seem to think your hero’s. I bet all of you giving me grief on here have all been out over the weekend.
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In reply to Post #31
I am employed and have been told to work from home...my wife is recovering from it and I have just got over a mild form of it. I intend to stay isolated for for further 14 days at least just in case. Doesn't matter if I'm employed or self employed as I don't want to risk some poor bigger dying. Seeing what my wife went through for the last 2 weeks makes me realise how serious this can be, not just for the vulnerable either.
I could go fishing every weekend now but I choose not to as its irresponsible and outs others at risk.
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In reply to Post #30
I saw something from a virologist last night that suggested Covid-19 has already mutated twice. Firstly in order for it to be passed between humans and secondly into a different strain of the virus... hence why some people get mild symptoms and some get it a hell of a lot worse. The same guy suggested that it would, of course mutate again so god knows what that could mean  !
Swainy, you are getting stick for saying you’ll go fishing regardless... not to work. Work “might” be seen as essential, fishing is not. How hard is it to stay in for the sake of peoples lives?!
Harping on about your missus being on the frontline the very post after you’ve admitted you’re buggering off fishing every weekend was unbelievably stupid. Shame on you.
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In reply to Post #28
Let me guess you are off work with full pay. Pretending to be in isolation
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In reply to Post #27
There’s no actual proof that getting it will give you any long term immunity anyway. Some viruses don’t mutate much, like polio, measles etc. So once you’ve got an immunity from it, either from vacation or exposure, then you are set for life. Other viruses mutate readily, like influenza, so just cos you had a strain of it last year, that’s no protection from this years version. It’s why the make up of the flu jab is changed each year as they try to second guess which strains are gonna be the worst in each flu season. Covid19 hasn’t been around long enough for anyone to know whether you’ll develop an natural immunity.
Having said that if you fight off the virus you will have a short term immunity until it mutates. Which it’s already done twice.
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In reply to Post #27
I am not ignoring nothing. I’m going to work I’m coming home. I have been having very little contact with the outside world . Ye I’m only 32 and fit. I don’t want anyone to catch this and suffer but hard facts say we are going to get it at some point. If I go fishing I mite see 3 people on my syndicate who am I putting in danger? I mite be selfish and not thinking about the older generation but I’m afraid like Iv already said I am going to work until I get told otherwise.
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In reply to Post #26
Thick and ignorant....
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In reply to Post #24
Agreed.
Yes we may all get it (or about 80% of the population, apparently). The measures being put in force are to try and make sure that the NHS can cope with the flow of people needing ventilators/life support.
If you look at from a purely selfish point of view then, certainly at the moment and assuming you are otherwise fit and healthy, the quicker you can get it the better FOR YOU, because there should still be hospital beds available at the moment. IF you get it in a month's time there may not. But the simple fact is that before you even show symptons you are contagious and if you are ignoring the confinement guidance then you are probably passing it on to others, some of whom may die.
IF every single person self isolated for 2 weeks completely i.e. no interaction with anyone else. This virus would probably be eliminated within those 2 weeks as it would have nowhere to spread to. Unfortunately that is not possible in the real world.
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How is that ignorant? I have no choice but to go to work like I said I’m self employed with bills mortgage to pay. no work, no penny’s. So me going fishing is not exactly going to change anything. The government are only saying social distance your self. They are also saying 80% of us are going to get this virus in some way. All we are trying to do is slow it down to put less stress on the nhs. So you keyboard warriors Call me what you like. Until I get told I can’t go out I will carry on as I like
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In reply to Post #24
I will be in work untill I either
a, get the virus
b, any of my family members get it or show symptoms forcing me to self isolate.
c, the goverment tell me not to go to work
I deliver bleach and other cleaning products into the supermarket rdc's
were busier than ever.
looking at the idiots running the bath half marathon, and the idiots up snowdon giving snowdon its busiest visitor day ever and the people at the beaches then it wont be long untill the government goes into full lock down.
people are treating this like a public holiday which is a joke
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In reply to Post #22
Your post highlights you for the ignorant fool you are. These people with the we are all gonna get it attitude baffle me, dont worry who we infect and kill along the way. Selfish *****
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In reply to Post #22
My wife is also a nurse, and is dealing with the risks on a unprecedented scale, however i'd be an absolute tool to take myself of fishing and leave her at home with kids. I honestly couldn't think of anything more selfish total t##t 
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In reply to Post #21
My attitude stinks. Ha idiot.
My wife is on the front line she is currently at work now looking after sick patients with coved-19 and I am here every night when she comes home in bits so I can see what it’s doing to people. I have to lie to her every day and tell her that everything is going to be ok. When really I no it’s not but life can not stop. I have to stay strong to support her and the kids. At some point we are all going to get it. Could be tomorrow, next week next month or next year but we are all going to get it at some point
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In reply to Post #19
It's his attitude that really stinks....going fishing isn't safe, people arent taking it serious. These lakes like farlows and tackle shops saying they've taken all precautions is bull ****, only the money that concerns them. Our NHS staff are saying stay at home for a reason. People are dying at a silly rate ffs...he is an ignorant *****stick
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In reply to Post #19
cant see why closing a business that has mass gatherings of public on site is even an issue at moment,its human lives at steak ,there jobs ,homes,families ,its only carp fishing after all ..well done the people who run the place great decision.
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In reply to Post #18
Rich that’s a bit harsh, as I’m pretty sure you don’t know what he does for a living. I’m a self employed worker. I’m following the guidelines issued by the government and my trade associations to the letter. Continuing to work at present for me does not make me an ignorant fool.
Currently the advice from government, and I’ve literally just seen it restated in a live broadcast on sky is this
1. Businesses should not be asking people to come to work if they have symptoms or if someone in their house has symptoms.
2. Businesses should be supporting people to work from home where ever possible.
There is currently no blanket ban on either leaving your home, or going to work in this country. I am a boiler repair engineer. My sector of the industry was yesterday added to the list of keyworkers. Here is a direct quote from one of my trade associates
“ The government has classified plumbing and heating professionals as ‘Key Workers’ and as such the children of plumbing and heating workers will be prioritised for education provision.
CEO John Thompson says the APCH had been discussing with the government the possibility of assigning Key Worker status to plumbing and heating contractors and fully welcomes this action.
“I’m glad the government recognises the essential frontline work that plumbing and heating professionals carry out and the direct role they play in keeping society healthy, warm and safe,” says John Thompson. “If plumbers and heating engineers weren’t allowed into properties or attend sites to fix breakages, this could have led dangerous heating systems and unsafe drinking-water and sanitation facilities.”
So I’m my case, being self employed and continuing to work is within the governments advice. No one in my house has any symptoms. I’ve not been in any houses where anyone has had symptoms. I telephone every customer prior to attending. I wear disposable gloves in every property. I have a tub of strong disinfectant made up In my van. Even though I’m wearing gloves I wash my hands with this solution. So please leave the ignorant fool comments out. A lot of us are doing jobs where people need us to attend, the self employed bit isn’t important. I will keep doing my job until Im told by the government to stop. At a time where the advice to everyone is wash your hands with soap and water, your gonna have a job doing that if your boiler has packed up aren’t you.
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In reply to Post #15
Ignorant fool...
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In reply to Post #15
Appreciate that mate and wasn’t thinking about you guys with no other option. Just other people out in their towns like its any other day.
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In reply to Post #15
He is referring to your statement about going fishing. Imagine if the whole country had a view of 'FU I will do what I want at the weekend and go out'. It doesn't matter whether its fishing, golf, whatever. People need to engage their brains. It is not essential to go.
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In reply to Post #14
Until that day comes people like myself who are self employed and have a family to support will still be going out working
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In reply to Post #13
The more people do not stay at home where possible, the quicker total lock down across the country will come into force!
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In reply to Post #12
I'm thinking my only chance of fishing would be if the close season was relaxed on the rivers.
Oh and if anyone notices I haven't posted in a couple of weeks can someone track my Mrs down and tell her my gear is worth a lot more than she thinks 
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In reply to Post #11
I’m in the same boat. No help in the emergency financial packages for the self employed. If I don’t work I’m literally not putting food on the table. Plus I’m having to grab whatever jobs I can as my phones not ringing. I had a list of ten services to try to get in for this week. Not a single reply. I’ve had three boiler changes in the coming weeks dry up. I’ve got enough money to see me through a month then I’m ****ed. From watching the news it seems large amounts of people are treating this as a bonus holiday and ****ing off to the coast for a two week jolly up.
I could do with a few hours fishing to de-stress. My waters are quiet so I’m not likely to see anyone if I do go.
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Each to there own in my opinion. I’m self employed so have no choice but to go to work. So at weekends I will go fishing. Less risk fishing than at work.
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In reply to Post #9
Yep...do what your told u bloody idiots its peoples lives we are talking about! If it does go to lock down do it fullstop.
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Well some people are blissfully thinking that "self isolation" will be an excuse for sitting at the lake fishing on paid leave for a few weeks.
I think they are in for a rude awakening....
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Smaller places staying open is fine but large complexes like that with such high foot traffic it’s wise to close
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Imagine the nightmare of being carted off to hospital. As the doors of the ambulance close, you hear “burn all his gear, it’s infected”
Nooooooooooooooo!
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In reply to Post #4
Spot on,😳
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In reply to Post #2
I was thinking that. I might sound like a fool now but driving to a lake and fishing from a swim in isolation can’t be a bad thing can it.
Obviously the socialising is 
Still, I suppose it’s how you control it, enter the human factor and anything can happen, and probably will!
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Also they are a business. Perhaps they feel it’s unfair on their staff to deal with a constant turn over of strangers. Plus imagine the nightmare of trying to evacuate someone who turned up feeling fine three days before and goes on to develop pneumonia in their bivvy.
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In reply to Post #2
I would think it's the amount of anglers they get on site
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In reply to Post #1
An educated call by them in the current climate - no one can criticise them for doing it. However... do we think it’s strictly necessary? I went out a few weeks ago and didn’t speak to or see a single person. For me, I certainly have less human contact bankside than I do in my house of 5. Be interested to hear thoughts.
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Closing Sunday until further notice.
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