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Head&shouldered
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   Old Thread  #39 3 Apr 2020 at 6.23am    Login    Register
This virus is a nightmare, but if you are a linear carp its heaven. The rest these fish are getting is much needed when the lakes are constantly hammered
NickGordon
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NickGordon
   Old Thread  #38 23 Mar 2020 at 0.56am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #12
In my job we have had to close the restaurant, bar and spa, although at the moment the hotel and golf course is still open. If the hotel gets closed, as it is likely to, there will still need to be a skeleton staff day and night to keep maintenance and security. So from 100 odd staff, there will be 10-12 who have to stay on, the rest will be put on furlough.
I feel for the owners having to work out who!

I know Anglian Water have shut all their fisheries and country parks, which puts my self isolation on my holiday up the creek as I had planned on fishing. It also increases my risk if I have to stay at home as I would then need to mix with people when I need to top up my gas and electric cards at the local shops, compared to using no energy while fishing.

One thing though, the government has said that to go into second home on the coast is non essential travel, so may stop a few pulling a fast one.
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #37 22 Mar 2020 at 11.30pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #36
Explain to me what’s laughable about what I’ve put? I’ve asked a simple enough question about how the statistics are collected. For clarity.

Perhaps you’d like to call up the medical lady who appeared With borris today and tell her she’s laughable as well, as she was raising this exact point about skewed statistics when comparing to other outbreaks and how other countries count their infections etc. But obviously she doesn’t know quite as much about it as you does she.

You’re in danger of making yourself look laughable.
Rich40
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Rich40
   Old Thread  #36 22 Mar 2020 at 10.52pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #35
Laughable... I'll let you guys crack on as you dont seem to get it
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #35 22 Mar 2020 at 10.10pm    Login    Register
I’ve noticed the language around the deaths is quite careful. The don’t ever say that someone with underlying conditions died of coronavirus. They say that someone has died who was confirmed to be infected with covid19. A subtle difference but I wonder how many of these people were already in the final stages of life anyway before infection. So if the predicted 20000 deaths. Is that twenty thousand deaths above the actual number that would have died anyway or 20000 deaths including those that would have died? That has a baring on how deadly this actually is in the general population.
Swainy123
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Swainy123
   Old Thread  #34 22 Mar 2020 at 10.07pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #32
I never said every weekend at all. I do around 3/4 nights a month. And how I live my life as **** all to do with anyone on here. You all seem to think your hero’s. I bet all of you giving me grief on here have all been out over the weekend.
Rich40
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Rich40
   Old Thread  #33 22 Mar 2020 at 9.59pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #31
I am employed and have been told to work from home...my wife is recovering from it and I have just got over a mild form of it. I intend to stay isolated for for further 14 days at least just in case. Doesn't matter if I'm employed or self employed as I don't want to risk some poor bigger dying. Seeing what my wife went through for the last 2 weeks makes me realise how serious this can be, not just for the vulnerable either.

I could go fishing every weekend now but I choose not to as its irresponsible and outs others at risk.



hyperloop
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hyperloop
   Old Thread  #32 22 Mar 2020 at 9.56pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #30
I saw something from a virologist last night that suggested Covid-19 has already mutated twice. Firstly in order for it to be passed between humans and secondly into a different strain of the virus... hence why some people get mild symptoms and some get it a hell of a lot worse. The same guy suggested that it would, of course mutate again so god knows what that could mean !

Swainy, you are getting stick for saying you’ll go fishing regardless... not to work. Work “might” be seen as essential, fishing is not. How hard is it to stay in for the sake of peoples lives?!
Harping on about your missus being on the frontline the very post after you’ve admitted you’re buggering off fishing every weekend was unbelievably stupid. Shame on you.
Swainy123
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Swainy123
   Old Thread  #31 22 Mar 2020 at 9.43pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #28
Let me guess you are off work with full pay. Pretending to be in isolation
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #30 22 Mar 2020 at 9.41pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #27
There’s no actual proof that getting it will give you any long term immunity anyway. Some viruses don’t mutate much, like polio, measles etc. So once you’ve got an immunity from it, either from vacation or exposure, then you are set for life. Other viruses mutate readily, like influenza, so just cos you had a strain of it last year, that’s no protection from this years version. It’s why the make up of the flu jab is changed each year as they try to second guess which strains are gonna be the worst in each flu season. Covid19 hasn’t been around long enough for anyone to know whether you’ll develop an natural immunity.

Having said that if you fight off the virus you will have a short term immunity until it mutates. Which it’s already done twice.
Swainy123
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Swainy123
   Old Thread  #29 22 Mar 2020 at 9.37pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #27
I am not ignoring nothing. I’m going to work I’m coming home. I have been having very little contact with the outside world . Ye I’m only 32 and fit. I don’t want anyone to catch this and suffer but hard facts say we are going to get it at some point. If I go fishing I mite see 3 people on my syndicate who am I putting in danger? I mite be selfish and not thinking about the older generation but I’m afraid like Iv already said I am going to work until I get told otherwise.
Rich40
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Rich40
   Old Thread  #28 22 Mar 2020 at 9.35pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #26
Thick and ignorant....
Enut
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Enut
   Old Thread  #27 22 Mar 2020 at 9.11pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #24
Agreed.

Yes we may all get it (or about 80% of the population, apparently). The measures being put in force are to try and make sure that the NHS can cope with the flow of people needing ventilators/life support.

If you look at from a purely selfish point of view then, certainly at the moment and assuming you are otherwise fit and healthy, the quicker you can get it the better FOR YOU, because there should still be hospital beds available at the moment. IF you get it in a month's time there may not. But the simple fact is that before you even show symptons you are contagious and if you are ignoring the confinement guidance then you are probably passing it on to others, some of whom may die.

IF every single person self isolated for 2 weeks completely i.e. no interaction with anyone else. This virus would probably be eliminated within those 2 weeks as it would have nowhere to spread to. Unfortunately that is not possible in the real world.

Swainy123
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Swainy123
   Old Thread  #26 22 Mar 2020 at 9.07pm    Login    Register
How is that ignorant? I have no choice but to go to work like I said I’m self employed with bills mortgage to pay. no work, no penny’s. So me going fishing is not exactly going to change anything. The government are only saying social distance your self. They are also saying 80% of us are going to get this virus in some way. All we are trying to do is slow it down to put less stress on the nhs. So you keyboard warriors Call me what you like. Until I get told I can’t go out I will carry on as I like
AndyClark
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AndyClark
   Old Thread  #25 22 Mar 2020 at 9.04pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #24
I will be in work untill I either
a, get the virus
b, any of my family members get it or show symptoms forcing me to self isolate.
c, the goverment tell me not to go to work

I deliver bleach and other cleaning products into the supermarket rdc's
were busier than ever.

looking at the idiots running the bath half marathon, and the idiots up snowdon giving snowdon its busiest visitor day ever and the people at the beaches then it wont be long untill the government goes into full lock down.
people are treating this like a public holiday which is a joke
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