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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/
Numbers still spiralling.
Areas affected are widespread, obvious hot spots around cities, Champagne region numbers up there.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/europe/france-coronavirus-cases.html
UK travel advice
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france
Let's hope the situation improves sooner rather than later in the EU and UK as our numbers are also rising - 50% rise yesterday.. 
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Looks like an announcement to be made soon.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/French-restrictions-on-UK-arrivals-due-soon-minister
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In reply to Post #546
Nice. That’s not a problem
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In reply to Post #543
Duration of your trip
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In reply to Post #544
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In reply to Post #543
If it was like last time the quarantine will be a voluntary one rather than compulsory. The next few days should see an announcement.
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Does anyone know if France was to bring in a quarantine over there is it a set 2 weeks or for just as long as your trip?. Think if visiting uk at the moment it’s just for the duration of your stay.
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I’m still going on the 5th September . Will swallow the 2 weeks quarantine. Put my feet up and watch **** day time tv for 2 weeks
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Just trying to speak to the lake owners now. Think we have decided to cancel. I can claim back on insurance but they want to charge me £75 per person excess.
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In reply to Post #538
Indeed it doesnt seem many are cancelling trips... Posted in one fb group that I am looking for free (or buy of someone) spots for sept 5th and got only 1 reply...
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In reply to Post #536
Yep we due out end of Sept...
However if quarentine not lifted the we are able to rearrange for the following month and so on until its lifted again.
Our group are either self employed or cannot work from home, hence the moving of our dates and tunnel crossing if needs be...
Fingers crossed but imagine it won't be lifted for a few months...
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In reply to Post #535
Looking on FB ****loads have been travelling.......
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In reply to Post #536
Don´t wish to start World War III on here, but I have to make the point, most self employed guys (still working) will have applied for more Government financial support for the next 3 months and received it (no questions really being asked about eligibility) and may have found themselves better off than just working without the financial support. Also everybody who has been furloughed will also be receiving financial support, agreed that the latter won´t be receiving their normal pay either, so why would anybody in those categories not take up their bookings? 
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In reply to Post #535
Due out in 3 weeks but thinking of cancelling.
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In reply to Post #534
Anyone been out since they brought quarantine back in
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In reply to Post #533
Because they have ramped up testing. France were slow to test at the start of the pandemic. Also remember that for every 1000 positive tests over 800 will show no or very mild symptoms. President Macron has already stated France will not go into another nationwide lockdown. The out breaks are localised as they are in the UK. Paris and Marseille showing the vast majority of positive tests.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/
Might be a good idea to look at the numbers of infections for France, the above link is updated daily, they are now approaching daily numbers seen at the previous peak of infections.....
Not good at all. If they don't get a grip of it they are in serious trouble and may have no choice but to go into a widespread lockdown again if local lockdowns don't control the outbreak.Obviously the same would apply to us as well if our numbers were accelerating and it got out of control.
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Update on entry requirements for France.
Arrivals by sea and air routes will need to complete a ‘sworn statement’ (déclaration sur l’honneur) form self-certifying they are not suffering from symptoms associated with Covid19 and have not been in contact with confirmed cases in the preceding fortnight. This is available in English on the site of the French Embassy London.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/entry-requirements
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In reply to Post #520
As it stands I still intend to go 28/08 for a week
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In reply to Post #529
Was quite early this morning so yes I could of worded it differently. My mistake
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In reply to Post #528
not that it really matters but your comment read like it was factual and not that you see it happening. I can also see if happening now after reading various posts...
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In reply to Post #518
It’s something I see that’s very likely to happen in the next few days. 
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In reply to Post #526
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In reply to Post #525
It's 12 months from date of purchase not from the date you are traveling. They were offering vouchers that had to be used again 12 months from original purchase but the booking date could be after that.
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In reply to Post #523
The phone lines are naturally horrendous at the minute. Good to know that they will move it for you up to 12 months though, thanks. I did try on the site but it just states future dates arent available. Guess I will keep trying to get through then
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In reply to Post #320
I'm travelling alone drive and survive????
Private vehicles
You don’t need to self-isolate if you travel through a non-exempt country and you don’t stop in the country.
If you do make a stop, you don’t need to self-isolate if:
no new people get into the vehicle
no-one in the vehicle gets out, mixes with other people, and gets in again
You do need to self-isolate if you make a stop and:
new people get into the vehicle, or
someone gets out of the vehicle, mixes with other people and gets in again
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In reply to Post #522
I have had no problem with moving dates up to 12 months, just speak to them on the phone when you can usually very helpful.
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In reply to Post #520
Government are advising Essential Travel only and a form needs to be completed looking at the Eurotunnel website, although their site is pretty bloody useless, as are their phones! Appreciate they will be busy but trying to get hold of them to see what the options are is a joke.
We have standard tickets which arent refundable, we are able to move dates online but not to next year.... anyone aware what they tend to do here? I feel they would give a voucher to be used in a year but it'd be good to see what others have experienced.
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In reply to Post #520
Quarantineing at a lake seemed to be acceptable last time. Can't imagine returning early would be a problem the French authorities will probably be glad to get rid of you but, you never really know till you stand in front of them at the border.
Let's hope they don't reciprocate but with all these things the devil is in the detail.
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In reply to Post #519
So "IF" we have to quarantine in France is this acceptable to be done around a lake with no one else around?
And would the French frown upon people travelling back a week into a 14 day quarantine?
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In reply to Post #517
It was said that it is a possibility at this moment, not a fact.
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In reply to Post #514
Why don't you read the facts instead of making it up
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In reply to Post #516
France Euro minister put on twitter last night that they will put a reciprocal arrangement in place. Only time will tell if they do.
Certainly with our Gov stating essential travel only then our insurances will be invalid for a holiday fishing trip.
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In reply to Post #514
Not seen that anywhere. Just checked the uk gov website and it says uk travellers do no not need to quarantine after entering france..
This may change though if France do a reciprocal requirement response to our change.
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In reply to Post #514
Where have you seen that? I can’t see anything that says you need to in France, only U.K.
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In reply to Post #510
Unfortunately you need to quarantine In France and the uk
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In reply to Post #512
Are insurances on vehicles etc null and void if you still go as the government have put an essential travel only label on France???
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In reply to Post #511
They’re also advising against all but essential travel..
Be interesting to see if people will still go over despite the quarantine
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In reply to Post #510
Unfortunately I work in the construction industry so can't work from home boo 😢...
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In reply to Post #509
Due out on the 22nd August.. If we don’t have to quarantine in France then no problems as I can work from home in the UK..
Not sure if the French would frown at people travelling home 7days into a 14 day quarantine period 
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In reply to Post #508
😭... Just seen as well, we are due out on the 26th Sept, hoping it might be lifted again by then..
Otherwise big decision time 🤔
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In reply to Post #507
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53773914
France has been removed. Will be interesting to see if France once again impose the 14 day quarantine on UK arrivals in FrAnce
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In reply to Post #506
Wish they would hurry up and give us an answer. Meant to be going on Saturday still don’t know if it’s going to happen or not!
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In reply to Post #505
Not necessarily true. Just read an article in the F.T and its looking 50/50 atm
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In reply to Post #503
Looks like France is being removed from the air bridge agreements tomorrow and we’ll have to quarantine
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3 of us are due to go next month, mate rang crete lakes and been told the bus is 100% still running, only way it won't if country goes into another complete lockdown, so leaves people in a limbo really if this quarantine comes in.
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In reply to Post #501
Nobody (very few) does as people that say openly they had it are treated by others worse than hiv positive were... Human nature at its best...
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Here at Le Bounty just 14 k from Le Mans you are more likley to get sun burn than the virus. Speaking to the many French lads that have fished Bounty not one of them knows of anyone that has or have had the virus.
John
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In reply to Post #496
I think its on the cards for this coming week. meant to be heading out to France this coming Saturday but just told the others im going to give it a miss and take the loss of expenses already paid. simply cannot afford the two weeks off work u paid. to much hassle for what its worth for me. week over at ST Ives instead, which isn't to be complained about!
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In reply to Post #497
Has been advice against non essential travel so far but I'm sure you know that and give the best available advice to your customers.
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In reply to Post #497
im sure all our employers will be happy with us if we bugger off on our jolleys and then cant go back work for 2 weeks
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In reply to Post #495
All depends wether travel is advised against by the government or if it's purely quarentine only.
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In reply to Post #495
Remember Bullseye is a lake operator! 
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In reply to Post #493
My point is if Gov puts on a quarantine here they also advise against non essential travel so the two go hand in hand. If our Gov says quarantine when returning from France your insurance cover will be void for non essential journeys. Imagine if you are the innocent party in a motor accident. With no cover your feet won't touch.
Bullseye, your bravado is misplaced mate. Your serious risk potentially lies in France if something goes wrong.
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In reply to Post #493
One person fined for breaking quarentine out of 70,000.........I'll leave people to decide whether they follow the advice.
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In reply to Post #492
Yes that's a very different matter altogether. At present the talk is only of quarantining the UK side. If that's the only caveat then i'm off!!!  . Of course all subjective at this moment in time.
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In reply to Post #491
whether anyone decides to go or not if the UK Gov advises against non essential travel is up to them of course BUT your insurances will not be valid so I hope you don't break down or have a medical situation requiring repatriation.
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In reply to Post #490
I’m ok to quarantine but chap I’m going with can’t so not sure what we are going to do.
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In reply to Post #487
Our April trip was cancelled and i have 2 weeks booked in 27 sleeps time! If you are happy to quarantine for 2 weeks once back in the UK then you can still do the trip. As stated it looks like only the UK will be imposing the quarantine not France at this time.
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In reply to Post #487
Its not over there that is imposing the quarantine, its the uk thats doing it.
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In reply to Post #487
our rearranged from April to October is looking bleak I reckon
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In reply to Post #486
Got a few mates over there and they heard it could be imposed within the next 48 hours.
Looks like my rearranged trip for September will be off!
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In reply to Post #484
If its not then it will be before you get home again I'd say.... Especially when France has announced that as of 15th of August Mass gatherings of over 5000 people will be allowed again!
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In reply to Post #484
Last night on lesmont for me seems we been lucky rate is growing everyday
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In reply to Post #483
meant to be heading out to france next Saturday, got a feeling by mid next week it will also be on the list....
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In reply to Post #482
Glad I got my trip in, last night tonight....
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In reply to Post #481
Looking at the number of daily new cases in France recently now at around 1,700 per day, sadly it looks highly likely that france will be added to the quarantine list probably in the next week or 2. This situation of going around in circles is likely to continue for quite a while, sheer chaos!
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In reply to Post #480
I hope Boris doesn’t slap another quarantine jobby on France , I’m due out there soon after cancelling my April trip ffs !
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53687740
Belgium have been added to the quarantine list this morning....
Worrying times for foreign fishing trips, venues and travellers likely to be further impacted.
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In reply to Post #478
So you'll have to do two weeks in France instead of one. Difficult sell to the missus but I'd give it a go.
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In reply to Post #477
I guess the issue will be is if the UK enforce a 14 day quarantine for people arriving from France, will France do the same for people entering France from the UK..
It happened before, I can see this happening again if so..
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You need to complete a contact form before coming back to the UK. It's a pain but not exactly difficult and can be done with a smartphone NP. Eurotunnel send you a message asking you to do it, failure to do it could result in a £100 fine.
Border control wasn't really bothered about it so I think you could reasonably be confident to just leave it.
I'm out again this Friday and am prepared if I need to quarenteen upon return....
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In reply to Post #472
I think it's more political point scoring than based on a need through infection figures.
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In reply to Post #473
i did last thursday and they asked me at the tunnel
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In reply to Post #473
At the moment, no
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Off out on September 12th. Do we still need to fill out the Quarantine form?
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In reply to Post #471
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/France-may-return-to-UK-s-Covid-quarantine-list
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In reply to Post #469
But France and Italy numbers are still well below our numbers. Spain's numbers on the other hand are over double
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In reply to Post #469
I would imagine if France are still accepting travellers but the UK impose quarentine or close borders your chances of a refund from a fishery will shrink dramatically.
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In reply to Post #468
Nope . France and Italy have seen recent increases and the U.K. Gov are definitely keeping an eye on both . The official line is “ we are reviewing both countries on a daily basis “ which translated means “ we can f@&%k up your holiday plans with 4 hours notice !! ... 😭😭😭
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In reply to Post #466
My understanding was if you were returning from Spain you have to self isolate for 14 days on return.
TUI then cancelled all flights to Spain.
This was due to a sudden spike in cases.
I believe France has cases well under control and there are no sounds coming out of France to suggest any change in travel to France.
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In reply to Post #466
Not sure you are correct about that, at the moment anyway.
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Re-bumping this thread as I heard on the news that Spain is shut to UK travellers so will France be next do you think ?
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In reply to Post #464
Same here. No interest at all in the quarantine forms. The big surprise was the french actually checked our passports both ways.......must be getting ready for brexit
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In reply to Post #463
Came back yesterday , absolutely no problems
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In reply to Post #462
Thank the Carp gods for lifting quaranteen.... 
Looking forward to two trips now in the next month..
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In reply to Post #461
But that’s sending out the complete wrong message about shelf life according to your web site
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Has he taken the trouble to have contacted me I would have informed him I would allow him to have used CC Moores shelf life Baits.
John
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In reply to Post #458
Just stick the bait you already have on eBay or Facebook lots of people would buy it
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In reply to Post #457
If you really want to save your trip then I'd just book bounty and buy some freezer baits. With this short notice and with your requirements you most likely won't get any other options
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In reply to Post #450
Having spent £200 on CC Moores shelf life Baits for the previous venue is the only reason I can't go to Bounty Lakes, still waiting for ANY suggestions for 11 July!
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In reply to Post #453
Let's just hope so
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We booked weeks ago so have both ways sorted. You are right tho, its gonna be mad!!
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In reply to Post #454
warning ive just booked tunnel for 22nd aug and there is nothing for the return a week later for a van on the train had to book a ferry back they are getting booked up fast by the looks
my mate has managed his small van both ways
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We are off to Italy tomorrow, via France. Will let you know how we get on. We did discover a self cert form on the eurotunnel site (for entry to France) but not sure if its needed for entry to France but will take anyway. Cant ever remember french passport control being there or bothered tbh!
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In reply to Post #451
Doubt you will need to jump through any hoops after end of this month.
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According to the radio this morning air bridges will be in place very very soon so I wouldn’t think you would need to fill a form in 👍
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In reply to Post #444
Also interested in this info if after July you still have to fill in forms etc to return to the UK.
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In reply to Post #449
After carefully reading the Site Rules, especially regarding Bait, I am afraid Bounty is not for us but Thank you for your time on this matter, so guys, my question still stands......any ideas?
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In reply to Post #448
Static Home is £300 which includes bedding.
Fishing is £245 per person.
£790 total.
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In reply to Post #447
HaHa, stopped driving 44t Tankers 4 years ago! Interested in this offer, what would be the total price for 2 anglers and 1 guest in the mobile for 7 days? you can message me on FB messenger.....Steven Hartley and Thank you.
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In reply to Post #446
Le Bounty is unles you are driving a 40 tonne truck lol
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In reply to Post #443
4-5 hours max from Calais
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In reply to Post #442
We have the fully equiped static 3 bedroom availalbe on B1 free that week.
See web site and Facebook for more details.
www.bountylemans.com
Or give me a ring on 02392 460 948
John
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In reply to Post #432
The form you need to fill out.
Is it all online or do I need to print something out??
Will be coming back into the UK on the 4th July.
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In reply to Post #442
What’s the max you’re willing to drive from Calais?
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In reply to Post #441
HELP! Booked on a venue 11 July which they have just cancelled, everything in place for the trip, tickets, bait etc. I am looking for a small lake for two anglers and one non fishing guest.It doesn't have to be a massive fish venue but must have accom. and be within easy reach of Calais[Tunnel]. It appears all the big lakes are fully booked but we would prefer a small private lake anyway. Any ideas? 
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In reply to Post #437
Good stuff
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Fingers crossed for France being a non quarantine zone from next week
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In reply to Post #438
Now you are being silly. As if the Prime minister of a country would be so careless as to catch Covid. 
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I bet macron didn’t quarantine when he was over last week
Pot kettle black I think
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In reply to Post #436
None whatsoever mate.
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In reply to Post #415
Have you had any more contact from them
Regarding self quarantining out of interest? I’m away a week Friday and wondered how strict they are being with it ? Thanks
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In reply to Post #434
Nothing to be relaxed before the 29th June at the earliest. I work in travel and we’ve been given assurances that air bridges will start to be opened up from then as long as the pandemic is still under control..
Other thing to think about is if an area (Manchester/ London/ Liverpool etc) is under local lockdown due to a spike in cases you may be advised to return home by border control and quarantine rather than be able to travel..
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In reply to Post #433
I don't know how the two week isolation will be policed anyway.
Also I can't see it lasting for long as the travel industry is collapsing at the moment and it can't be sustained the way it is.
I really can't see it lasting long and I think if your off next week for a week you will probably be just fine.
We I hope so anyway.
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In reply to Post #432
I am due out next Saturday not sure the 14 day quarantine will be lifted by then.
I can't go in to 14 days quarantine.
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In reply to Post #424
Quarantine is at the minute obligatory on return, unless they lift it don’t forget the form.
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In reply to Post #429
They use something called Triangulation but it's not normally used unless it's really justifiable like tracking down terrorists etc.
They measure the phone signals from 3 or more cell towers and where it intersects is where you are
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In reply to Post #429
To my knowledge any phone can be located by signal. Maybe not to 1m2 but very small area.
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In reply to Post #428
How do they do that?
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In reply to Post #427
You are still tracable if they want to trace you...
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In reply to Post #426
. Go to setting . It’s under Privacy . Then your see location services
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I have a iPhone so go into settings,find location services and turn it off 👍
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In reply to Post #423
location services switched off lol
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Looks like France is opening on the 15 th and quarantine is voluntary , quarantine in your bivvy 
https://www.thelocal.fr/20200611/latest-france-set-to-reopen-its-borders-for-european-travel-from-june-15th
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In reply to Post #421
Then I would turn off location services 
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In reply to Post #420
Thats how they going to catch you by tracking your phone
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In reply to Post #419
At home
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In reply to Post #418
Where were you when you answered your phone
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In reply to Post #417
Mobile, never gave them my home number
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In reply to Post #415
Did she phone your mobile or home phone
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In reply to Post #415
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thelocal.fr/20200611/latest-france-set-to-reopen-its-borders-for-european-travel-from-june-15th/amp
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Had a phone call today from a lady who asked me had I travelled from France in the last 14 days.
She asked if I was self isolating which I confirmed I was.
She then asked if I knew what the corona virus symptoms were which I confirmed that I did.
She then told me not to go to a doctors or a hospital if I had the symptoms stay at home unless they got really severe in which case to phone 999.
Never asked me if I was at home.
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In reply to Post #413
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom/2020/06/10/the-eu-reopens-its-borders-key-dates-for-traveling-to-france/#66f3787c27e4
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In reply to Post #407
Yep, done that and i can satisfy one of the section. Happy days!
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In reply to Post #411
Found this! https://www.gov.uk/provide-journey-contact-details-before-travel-uk
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Mobile number i understand but if/when they call they can’t prove that your at home 😉 let’s hope it’s all relaxed in the next few weeks
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In reply to Post #408
Presumably you will have to supply a mobile number, whole system is a shambles and unnecessary! 
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In reply to Post #406
I was thinking more about being abroad and not having 1 of the modern phones with internet access, my Asda pay as you go Nokia 2210 doesn´t cope with that and yes I know about internet cafe´s, I am sure that some people won´t have a clue what to do.
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How can they contact you on the phone (I presume ) at home when you don’t have a home phone number ?
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In reply to Post #404
If you go online and look at the return form there is a whole list of exemptions , you may be one of them.
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In reply to Post #405
You have the internet access you need to post here.
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In reply to Post #396
You should mix with some of us pensioners!
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In reply to Post #397
Thanks for that, much appreciated! Im hoping my “essential worker” letter will help me avoid the quarantine when we return on 4th July.
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In reply to Post #397
Yes please I also would also like to know if this is enforced.
I have already cancelled two holidays, been to work every weekday since Christmas break finished. Not been to shops or out other than for exercise. Social distanced at work, had all breaks alone and used copious amounts of soap & gel.
Now I want to drive to a lake staying in my car all the way (Eurotunnel) have my food and bait delivered to the swim each day as required, leave the lake once to fill up (pay at pump) and come home the same way encountering ****ing no one. So if some dogmatic evolutionary cul-de-sac jobsworth wishes to bugger that up I may get a little cross.
Thanks this has been cathartic.
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In reply to Post #398
French quarentine is not mandatory. Bars, restaurants and shops are open with 1 meter distancing. A few places require you to wear a mask, but not many.
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In reply to Post #400
Yes will be interesting to hear if anyone contacts you in the next 2 weeks?
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In reply to Post #399
Let us know if they get in touch with you kn next 2 weeks as I am out soon 3rd july
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In reply to Post #398
No quarantine in France as far as I know, bars are open few shops etc.
Wasn’t challenged at all going out.
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In reply to Post #397
How was it getting out to France and the quarantine when you were there? Thanks
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Ok, I traveled back today lunchtime and it was pretty quiet.
All vans were sent through the X ray machine.
I was asked to put on a mask whilst my van went through.
French customs didn’t even look at my passport just waived me straight through.
English customs were a different matter, they ask you to produce the form either printed or electronically.
Loads of questions about where I’d been and what I had been doing.
They also asked what I done for a living and had I been working in France.
When I replied no the guy then produced a pamphlet and told me I would have to self isolate for 14 days at the address I submitted on the form.
When I asked him how this was going to be policed he seemed a bit uncertain whether it actually would be.
Apparently you will be contacted at home to see if you are there.
I only stopped twice for fuel and everyone had a mask on and although I never went to the supermarket my mate said that masks I to be worn and that the gendarmes are parked outside making sure everyone complies.
In a nutshell you can travel but I expect things will be quite busy and slow at the ports when fisheries open up.
Make sure you carry masks and fill in the form before you return, there is £ 100 fine if you refuse to comply.
Good luck.
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In reply to Post #395
I don't know anyone without access to the internet.
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In reply to Post #392
Sounds like fun, a lot of people don´t have internet access let alone know how to use a computer etc, wonder how the Border Force will deal with that situation?.
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In reply to Post #392
booked to go over 10 July, did you have to print off this form to fill it in?
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In reply to Post #392
Travel Corridors / Air Bridges to be introduced as early as 29th June for some countries.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-quarantine-critics-given-private-assurances-air-bridges-will-be-introduced-in-weeks-12003317
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In reply to Post #388
Train mate, had to go online this morning an fill in a form that you have to produce at customs.
Basically asking for passport details, travel arrangements and where you intend to self isolate when you get home.
You cannot fill in the form more than 48 hours before you travel so you will need internet access at the latter part of the week
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We're off to Aqvatika in Italy on 26th. Tunnels booked and France should be open on 15th, so should be fine. Even if they weren't open, they allow transit to another country. Can't wait to get the rods out 🎣🎣
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In reply to Post #386
Great to be back😁💥
Monsters crashing all around happy days 😍
So we drove all the way down no probs at all. Didn’t see an official or gendarme at all. English customs waved us through no stop and french customs was closed up.
George and I are registered to work here with a permanent residence so didn’t anticipate any real grief. I don’t know how it works for non residents at the moment I think it’s being reviewed about the 15th, good luck 🤞🤞
This was the guys reply,
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In reply to Post #388
Whichever means of transport you intend to use doesn´t matter, the rules and the paperwork are the same. If you are going out sometime in June and not returning until after 29 June, I would suggest that the quarantine rules will have been lifted by that return date and you won´t have to worry! I am going to Spain on 5 July for 4 days, not fishing but golfing and buying duty free cigars (lots of them).
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In reply to Post #387
Did you travel over by ferry?
Keen to find out what you need to do on arrival back to the UK.
I would like to go out on the 27th June but i think its a 50/50 bet at the moment.
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I am in France now lads and travelling back Wednesday, I will let you know the crack.
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In reply to Post #385
Keep us posted wac
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In reply to Post #382
Those guys are fishing and have caught one already.
Haven’t heard what checks were in place.
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5 of us had a week booked on Parco next month but informed last week that our flights had been cancelled. Contacted Antonio and Nicholas and they were quick to offer remaining dates in 2021 & 2022 at no extra cost to us.
Credit where credit is due and some good dates sorted for 2022.
Fingers crossed too for a trip to Abbey in October this year.
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In reply to Post #382
I thought it was'nt so much the travel out which is the problem (French borders opening 15th June)
but more the 14 day quarantine on returning to the UK after the 8th June?
I realise it will be hard to enforce it but there will be checks and if you are working will your employers
be happy for you to break it? (unless you have a 3 week holiday!)
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In reply to Post #377
A french lake I’m following there are a couple of English lads just boarding the Euro tunnel now.
So we’ve asked them to us know what happens / checks required.
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In reply to Post #380
We're supposed to be there from 13th 
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In reply to Post #379
Should be a napoleon lakes today 
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Got a email from island lake in the week to say they are hopefully opening in the next couple of weeks
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In reply to Post #375
going out on the 27th to dreamlakkes
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In reply to Post #376
The 100km rule has been lifted and as the uk.have brought in the quarantine rule from.monday I would assume it would be ok to travel from Monday otherwise why introduce it on the 8th if the borders not open
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In reply to Post #375
Isn't the border still closed with the 100km travel limit in place for the French.
I know it is hoped this will be lifted shortly but I thought it is currently still in place.
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In reply to Post #374
Anyone due to travel within the next few weeks who is still travelling
As I know few lakes in france have confirmed booking
Also I have been told some if the lakes are allowing french anglers on the lakes during the travel ban these are English run lakes
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In reply to Post #372
I would imagine they'd rather you left the country than go stay in a hotel somewhere where there will be more chance of giving it to someone.
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In reply to Post #372
If it's voluntary the French would do nothing....it's voluntary. If something is voluntary and you don't do it then it's your choice. You can say to people " it's up to you if you quarentine or not" and then when they don't say" oh you haven't quarentined so you need to stay here for a other week or two".
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In reply to Post #371
The website says 14 days quarantine. Voluntary or not,where would someone stand if they tried to travel back before the 14 day period? Would the french authorities stop the journey home? Would they then force a further 14 days?
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In reply to Post #370
It's voluntary. No need to quarentine here in France for UK anglers. I thought this part of the French government website statement was quite clear.
Similarly, travellers coming from the United Kingdom, regardless of nationality, will be requested to carry out voluntary quarantine once the British quarantine measures officially enter into force.
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From the same website....For travellers arriving from inside the European space (European Union Member States, the United Kingdom, Andorra, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norway, San Marino, Switzerland, Holy See), the borders are not closed but will still be subject to certain restrictions on movement as part of border controls.
Most anglers only go for a week to 10 days. Does that mean you have to stay in France for a minimum of 14 days ? If you travel to and from a venue in that 14 day window, surely that means you haven't complied with the 14 day quarantine?
I'm nor trying to be awkward, but to my eyes, it still looks rather vague
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In reply to Post #366
Travellers arriving by air from Spain will be invited to carry out a voluntary quarantine from Monday, 25 May. This applies to Span ish and French nationals and all other nationalities. Similarly, travellers coming from the United Kingdom, regardless of nationality, will be requested to carry out voluntary quarantine once the British quarantine measures officially enter into force.
From official French government website
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I fear it will all end up irrelevant any how when all these idiots in mass demonstrations cause a second wave and force us back into full lock down, really hope I'm wrong though 🤞🏻🙏🏻
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In reply to Post #366
Voluntary
https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coronavirus-advice-for-foreign-nationals-in-france/#sommaire_3
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In reply to Post #363
That refers to French Citizens returning from abroad. Not clear
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In reply to Post #364
I don't think any body really knows how it will be on the 8th June when it's due to come into force and then when its reviewed 3 weeks later. It is interesting to note that our current daily death rate is 10 times that in most EU countries so why would they want us in at the moment.
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In reply to Post #363
I'd be amazed if all this quarantine business isn't all cancelled after the 1st 3 wk review due to the amount of pressure the government is under from travel and tourism bodies. The Home secretary was adjusting the legislation for it yesterday in the house of commons before it's even come into force!! Cant see it lasting at all if I'm honest.
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In reply to Post #362
Voluntary
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/20200519-french-returning-from-abroad-asked-to-place-themselves-in-covid-19-quarantine
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In reply to Post #355
Believe or know? There's a huge difference. I think it's not clear at all.
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In reply to Post #360
So how is that going to work unless everybody lives in the same house of course?
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In reply to Post #359
Ye that be very helpful as there is 7 going in minibus so any trips going will help gain a bettervundrstsnding of what's required
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In reply to Post #358
Make sure you keep an eye out as there is a group going out
for Dreamlakes on the 20th so useful to see if that goes ok.
Plus my mate is out on the 27th so I can let you know how that goes.
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In reply to Post #357
Yep and me
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In reply to Post #356
When are you going over mate?
I'm over there on 5 July.
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In reply to Post #355
Glad I am welsh as the wording says if you leave house under quarantine you get fined £1000 in england lol
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In reply to Post #354
French quarentine is voluntary I believe.
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In reply to Post #352
So, 2 weeks quarantine going out. Weeks fishing in France and 2 weeks quarantine coming back? Fishing trips are ****ed for the forseeable then?
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In reply to Post #352
I agree its not clear but in your statement you forgot to add the list of exemptions which then used the word voluntarily quarantine:
The following people will be exempt from voluntary quarantine, except if they show symptoms:
people in transit to another country;
crew members and people operating passenger and cargo flights, or travelling as passengers to their departure point;
international freight transporters;
coach and train drivers and crew;
crew members and people operating merchant and fishing vessels;
foreign health professionals helping fight COVID-19;
staff of diplomatic and consular missions and of international organizations with headquarters or offices in France, as well as their spouses and children;
French and foreign domestic security or defence forces personnel returning from missions, or on mission, staff of the judicial authority carrying out its work, and State employees posted abroad or returning from missions, as well as their spouses and children;
cross-border workers;
people with compelling family reasons (travel justified for the purpose of transferring custody of or having access or staying access to a child; continued schooling; urgent assistance to a loved one; the funeral of a close relative) ;
people allowed to enter France for economic reasons if they are staying for less than five days. The quarantine conditions applicable to seasonal and posted workers permitted to enter are set out in the directive of 20 May 2020.
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In reply to Post #351
Now that the 14-day mandatory quarantine when returning to the UK is formally announced from Mon 8th June, I wonder what will that mean for the voluntary message in France. See last point below:
Travellers entering France from the UK
From Monday 25 May 2020, the French Government is putting in place a voluntary 14-day quarantine measure for travellers arriving from certain countries.
For travellers arriving from European countries whose authorities have decided, in an uncoordinated fashion, to apply 14-day quarantine measures to travellers entering their territory from European countries, a voluntary 14-day quarantine period will be reciprocally requested. For example, from Monday 25 May onwards, travellers arriving from Spain, on flights only, will be asked to go into voluntary quarantine, because Spain imposed a quarantine system on 15 May for travellers arriving in Spain by plane. This applies to travellers of Spanish, French and all other nationalities.
Travellers arriving from the UK, whatever their nationality, will be asked to go into a 14-day quarantine when the British 14-day quarantine measure actually comes into force, i.e. on 8 June.
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In reply to Post #350
This was put on euronews 6hrs ago
France
Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced plans to reopen France's border to EU countries and the UK from June 15, following the plans of other EU countries.
For the time being travel into France is restricted with only essential travel allowed for those who don't live in the country.
Travellers arriving from the UK or Spain will be subject to a voluntary quarantine. Those from outside the EU or UK will still not be able to travel to France except for in limited circumstances, while EU countries are still to decide when they will reopen external borders.
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In reply to Post #349
https://www.thelocal.fr/20200428/calendar-the-key-dates-to-know-as-france-moves-out-of-strict-lockdown?fbclid=IwAR3Wy4GJaqfhYhNQCh-nh7vYbgIFmQL8z5QnL02kfa_ApL027okO0bZlZZ8
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In reply to Post #348
Hopefully we’ll hear from the FCO this week with more advise on the quarantine restrictions and when we’ll expect them to be lifted in the UK..
https://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles/373115/dnata-chief-calls-for-urgent-review-of-fco-advice
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In reply to Post #347
More from Connextion.
The law on extending the state of health emergency to July, currently being debated by Parliament, includes the possibility of requiring any person entering the country to go into quarantine. At present this is not expected to include arrivals from EU countries or the UK but this has not been ruled out.
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In reply to Post #346
How I read it is mandatory if you have symptoms its voluntary if you dont
This is taken from connextion in France
The general rule: Voluntary quarantine (obligatory in case of symptoms)
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In reply to Post #345
Correct. We are in the same boat with an italy trip planned for 25th June. The next major decision date is 15th, hopefully Boris will buck up and bin the quarrantine so the eu can reciprocate
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So if I'm reading this right the French quarantine is going to be mandatory rather than voluntary now for us if we visit.
That completely screws any chance of going on a week's trip to a lake in Limoges in 3 weeks time unless the UK changes its plan before then....
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Hi all, this might be a bit of helpful information. The link should take you the the British embassy Paris site with updated info including links the the documentation you currently will need.
Stay safe folks.
https://m.facebook.com/ukinfrance/posts/3421979097830071
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In reply to Post #342
Just dont tell company you going abroad as they will force you quarantine if you tell them lol
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This is rather tongue in cheek but you can avoid the uk quarrantine if you fly from paris to dublin, then dublin to the uk. Nuts or what? But if you are really desperate............
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In reply to Post #340
If the UK enforces a 14 day quarantine policy then France will enforce the same :
"France will impose a reciprocal quarantine on nationals arriving in France that impose quarantine on French citizens."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/23/france-threatens-retaliate-british-quarantine-measures/
The only way we'll be going to France is either for 3 weeks (including 2 weeks at a single indoor location) or by the UK lifting the restrictions.
The voluntary quarantine is only for "returning French citizens and permanent residents arriving from outside the European Union and the European Economic Area, which includes the U.K. and Switzerland":
https://www.politico.eu/article/france-to-introduce-voluntary-14-day-quarantine-for-some-travelers/
Hopefully, the government see sense and remove the 14 day quarantine. I know the Travel Industry is putting a lot of pressure on the government, but I can't see any changes being made until mid July at the earliest.
Hope I'm wrong...
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In reply to Post #339
Latest info below. I wouldn't worry about UK quarentine. The rules are a mess and no one will follow them anyway.
https://www.france24.com/en/20200528-live-french-pm-philippe-unveils-second-phase-in-lifting-of-covid-19-lockdown
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In reply to Post #337
Stay there in France until the isolation rules have been scrapped, my guess will be that will be 3 weeks after they are officially in place. I am off golfing in Spain on 5th July and no plans to go into self isolation when I return, thanks Dom, all is clear now!
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In reply to Post #337
I don't know any way around it but my question is how is anyone going to know if you have isolated or not.
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Anyone know anyways around the 2 week uk self isolation if returning from France?
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In reply to Post #335
It’s just Paris area
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In reply to Post #334
Positive signs today.
Anyone got a current map showing the red zones?
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In reply to Post #333
Looks like we could be okay for after the 15th of June, fingers crossed for those who have trips booked after this date.
I have a trip booked for the last two weeks of July,
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In reply to Post #332
French have reduced lockdown
Could be good for my trip in july this is a snippet of what was said
An end to the maximum 100km for journeys as of 2 June.Cafes, bars and restaurants in most of the country designated green, will reopen on 2 June. No more than 10 people at a table and 1m distance between tables. Kitchen and restaurant staff must wear masks. Establishments in orange areas will only be able to reopen terraces.Secondary schools and lycées in green areas to reopen all classes, but retaining health measures including a maximum 15 pupils per class. In orange areas most classes will remain closed until September.France’s external borders will remain closed until 15 June when it is hoped they can reopen to EU nationals in coordination with other EU27 states. The general opening of borders to non-EU nationals will be decided in coordination with EU27. France will impose a reciprocal quarantine on nationals arriving in France that impose quarantine on French citizens.Parks and gardens as well as lakes and beches to open across France from 2 June. Camping sites, holiday villages, gites and other auberges can open in green areas from 2 June and in orange areas from 22 June.In green areas, theatres, gyms, sports halls, swimming pools, leisure parks. No more than 5,000 people at events. In orange ares, the above an only open on 22 June.
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In reply to Post #330
The French Prime Minister is to address the country this Thursday (May 28) to detail the second phase of deconfinement, including whether bars and restaurants will reopen, and if travel beyond 100km will be allowed.
A new colour map - updated from the previous one published on May 7 - will show which departments will be considered “green” or “red” for the purposes of the next stage of deconfinement.
This is based on three criteria in the given department: how much the virus is spreading, how stretched the local intensive care services are, and how many tests are available for the general public.
According to predictions made by news service FranceInfo, it is suggested that come June 2, only Île-de-France might still be in red.
The rule that limits travel to within 100km of your home (as the crow flies) may change on June 2. Junior transport minister Jean-Baptiste Lemoyne said in an interview this week that “a significant expansion” of this radius may be possible.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Deconfinement-in-France-Prime-minister-Edouard-Philippe-to-outline-second-phase-from-June-2
With EasyJet commencing flights from UK to France from 15th June, maybe they’ll include an update this Thursday on travel into France for tourism.
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In reply to Post #330
It's an interesting one this as it's voluntary. For a normal one week trip you will declare yourself back at French customs at Calais within the 14 day quarantine period. You'll be at the mercy of the French border authorities at this point having breached the request to isolate. Perhaps they will simply say go home or perhaps they won't 😂
This of course also relies on the French lifting the 100k travel restrictions on 15 June.
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In reply to Post #329
This on connexion in France
Travellers arriving in France from the UK - regardless of nationality - will be invited to enter a voluntary two-week quarantine upon arrival, from June 8, the French government has said.
The new rule was confirmed in a press release issued by the French ministry of foreign affairs in an effort to continue the fight against Covid-19.
The statement suggests that the quarantine will be voluntary.
This is in contrast to the UK’s rules, which will include fines of up to £1,000 (€1,115) and spot checks at quarantine addresses for people arriving in the UK.
Read more: UK clarifies 14-day quarantine rules
There has been no suggestion that France will spot check or fine visitors arriving in France at this stage.
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In reply to Post #328
So the quarantine in France has been confirmed as voluntary
So we get to decide
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In reply to Post #327
Don’t bring politics on here, can’t get away from that story.
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In reply to Post #315
The following people will be exempt from voluntary quarantine, except if they show symptoms:
- people in transit to another country;
Yeah, because people who have an onward flight 24 hours after arriving at Heathrow sit in the hotel room, of course they don't go to see Big Ben and the "big wheel"...
That's cos the seasonal fruit pickers are held captive on the farm they go to and aren't allowed to go anywhere else so they say they quarantine where they work.
My local farm bus about 30 of them to the local Aldi every week . When they aren't working, they are roaming the streets.
"Don't forget to quarantine yourself for 14 days upon arriving back in the UK"
Brits won't do it. Those here for business won't do it. Those here on holiday won't do it. Those onward travelling won't do it. Those who fly here to get onto cargo ships won't do it.... completely futile exercise and will not be monitored.
Those who arrive on dinghy's in the channel get their details taken and told to go to Croydon in two weeks time to claim asylum.
This country... 
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In reply to Post #324
My utter frustration over all this quarantine is that I have been in work amongst 250 other key workers through out this lockdown and that's been ok with the goverment but now I want to go to france sit next to a lake away from society i have to quarantine when I get back so dos this apply to key workers as it was ok at the height of the pandemic
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In reply to Post #316
Don't forget to quarantine yourself for 14 days upon arriving back in the UK.
Oh, did you know that Belgium has the worst Covid 19 outbreak in Europe? The death rate per million is nearly twice that of the UK. They may well be a smaller country and their overall numbers significantly lower than ours but their death rate is the second worst in the world (were the 5th worst hit country btw).
Let's hope that this diplomatic row gets sorted quiçkly and our government works with our EU partners to resolve the situation.
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In reply to Post #322
The first bit was a joke and the second part is what the government have said that they will quarantine where they work. So not all utter b####x I'm afraid.
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In reply to Post #318
Utter bollox
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In reply to Post #318
Or the fact they are cheaper to employ
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In reply to Post #319
Didn't say I believe it I said they say. Wow
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In reply to Post #318
And you believe that.
WOW.
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In reply to Post #317
That's cos the seasonal fruit pickers are held captive on the farm they go to and aren't allowed to go anywhere else so they say they quarantine where they work.
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In reply to Post #316
So seasonal workers coming into uk are exempt but not uk citizens what is all.that about
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In reply to Post #315
That's me fishing Belgium instead of France this year then!
What a crock of poo this is. 🙄
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In reply to Post #314
The following people will be exempt from voluntary quarantine, except if they show symptoms:
- people in transit to another country;
If anyone like me is only travelling through France for another country you will be ok.
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In reply to Post #313
To be fair we are from having the worst stats if you take cases and deaths per population into consideration let alone population density compared to all other countries and I also think every government in the world is making it up as they go along probably because we're in an unprecedented situation. Which if anyone is to blame then that should lay firmly at the feet of the Chinese and Who imo.
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In reply to Post #312
Absolute idiocy from the UK government. I am sick of being treated like a child. Coronavirus is on the way out. If we needed to quarantine arrivals into the UK for 2 weeks then that needed to be done 2 months ago, not just as we are seeing the end of this. there's not much I agree with Trump about but as he has said previously, the cure cannot be worse that the problem and at the moment this leaderless bunch of morons we have in government are making it up as they go along...and doing that badly.
2 months ago, there were people literally dying in the streets in Bergamo, Italy but yet there were 4 Ryanair flights arriving from there a day at Stansted airport. No quarantine, no checks, nothing. I know that, because I work for them.
And now, they decide to implement this lunatic decision with no science base to it whatsoever. It is not arrivals to the UK that we need be fearful of, if anything it is UK citizens travelling abroad because, thanks to the ineffective leadership of these clowns we have the worst coronavirus stats in Europe....
This useless government is determined to destroy the UK travel and tourism industry.
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Just seen the French are bringing in a reciprocal 14 day quarantine that will mirror ours that comes in on 8th June.
I think this means my trip on 20th June is finally dead in the water.
We'd have to have a building to isolate in for 14 days which obviously just isn't possible.
Gutted
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In reply to Post #309
France has just announced quarantine for anyone arriving in france
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In reply to Post #309
https://www.france24.com/en/20200523-france-ready-to-mirror-uk-quarantine-on-visitors
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In reply to Post #306
Where did you read that?
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Sounds like the French are doing a tit for tat 14 day quarantine. Not surprising, but 100pc rules out June fishing holiday.
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In reply to Post #302
You mean the scientists working for the government. 0.25% chance of contracting the virus.
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In reply to Post #304
French quarentine is voluntary.
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In reply to Post #304
I feel the same way I was due out 13th June but moved travel to the 15th which would have been fine if the French allowed travel. A friend asked me last night did I really want to travel to France , my response was I would more then likely catch it over here sat on a beach with half naked people or going to the supermarket then I would sitting in my van getting there then sat on lake with one other person.
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In reply to Post #303
This is going to stop any french travel as it looks like france are going to make uk travellers quarantine for 2 weeks on arrival and as we cannot provide an address we will be either put in hotel or turned back I am due out in 6 weeks os hopefully the virus rate drop enough for us to go or they introduce this air bridging what amazes me is the seasonal workers like strawberry pickers are exempt what's that all.about, that's it I am going strawberry picking in france
We must control this virus but allowing people to travel unlimited distances as only made a complete joke of this situation you only got to look at beaches parks and other beauty spots
And we not allowed to sit on our own next to a lake in france
Rant over
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In reply to Post #302
I meant scaremongering in respect to the proposed £1000 fine ...
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In reply to Post #301
33000 deaths isn't scare mongering, if we had not had a lockdown the scientists (you know, people that learnt and studied virology) think we may have had 500000 deaths due to Covid 19 with the NHS overwhelmed.
Do you think the whole pandemic is a plan to control the people? The NHS response and nightingale hospitals a scam to control you as well?
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In reply to Post #300
I wouldn’t worry about it ... it’s completetly and utterly un enforceable ! And the government know this . Who do you think would possibly do the “ supposed “ follow up checks ? The police ? The birder force ? Traffic wardens ,,,!,
They are making a big song and dance over this is an effort to continue their control over the population by scare mongering .. as they have done all along ... they’ve already hinted that the reacation and objections from the airlines , ferries , Tunnel etc is so massive that the whole suggestion is under immediate review ...
Boris said a few weeks agai that “ the government would make every effort to prop up the UKs tourist industry “ and I guess this is it !, ... Go outdoors announced yesterday an 460 % increase in camping gear sales over this time last year ! ..
Yep , the government is helping the local tourism industry alright - by scaring everyone to stay in the U.K. !
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Its a complete joke. If anything people should be stopping us from going into their countries, every day our rates are much higher then the rest of Europe. When asked yesterday why they didn't do this from the start when thousands of people were still coming into the country the response was it would not have made a difference.
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In reply to Post #298
We're due to go to Limoges on 20th June so in a similar boat to yourself.
Haven't booked the tunnel yet but will soon start planning kit etc.
I think if the UK and French figures drop then we've got a fair chance of going.
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I’ve got a tunnel crossing 15th June AM having moved it from this evening (FFS). The 15th is the day I think the French border reopens. I’m happy to self quarantine on the way back, but not sure if France is making people quarantine their side after the 15th? Obvs pointless if they are, but read conflicting things on web. Other issue is UK lifting non essential travel, but fingers crossed for something in second phase / 1st June onwards.
Anyone else looking to travel at first opportunity?
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In reply to Post #290
The UK 2 week quarantine requirement if kept in place has just stopped most foreign fishing holidays.
Yep, a few will go ahead, retired people, home workers, those able/willing to make a 1 week trip a 3 week period with the 2 weeks at home after the fishing in self quarantine.
Maybe the new rise in home working will help bookings?
Fingers crossed UK and France Covid 19 cases continue to reduce and France get an exemption like other countries will low Covid 19 cases as talked about today
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In reply to Post #295
Agreed. Too slow out the blocks compared to others
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In reply to Post #294
Yep .. bolted and horse springs to mind ... a complete and utter Gov cock up ...
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To be honest they should have implemented it at the very beginning of this pandemic
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In reply to Post #292
Initially it doesnt look good I agree , however they have said it will be reviewed every three weeks , plus the airlines , Tunnel , ferries etc will be putting enourmous pressure on the Gov to lift it otherwise it’s the final nail in the coffin for them .
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In reply to Post #291
That's the end of that then.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-self-isolate-for-14-days-or-face-1-000-fine-uk-to-tell-overseas-visitors-11992485
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In reply to Post #290
Whilst you may well be able to drive in France, the Daily Mail is reporting the 14 day quarantine deal with France will only apply to freight and business travel.
Truth is I don't think anybody knows with any certainty at present.
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In reply to Post #289
Just seen this post from our good friends from next door on the Goncourt complex.... Pascale has been in touch with the French government, regarding French fishing and travel.. heres hoping virus levels are under control...
.. Good evening,
I have a little bit of a good news for everyone. A few days ago I have been sending a letter to our Prime Minister and I have received an answer from him today.
English people will be definitely able to travell France from the 15th of June if the COVID 19 figures don’t get worse...
I was really pleased with the prompt reply and the positive outcome. 🙏🙏🙏🍾🍾🍾 so looking forward to having the life and soul back in the complex !!!
Love to you all !!!
Pascale ❤️
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In reply to Post #288
I believe it was posted on the goncourt facebook page and also on dream lakes plus few other cant check myself as not on nosey book lol
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In reply to Post #287
If that is true Gary it will make a lot of people happy who have trips planned, myself included as my April trip obviously didn't happen.
Also I am sure a lot of places have had trips after this cancelled by the anglers just as a precaution so I imagine there's going to be plenty of late bookings to be had.
Thanks for the update.
Hopefully it is the case.
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In reply to Post #286
Just seen article written by Pascale at goncourt complex stating she had had s reply to a letter she sent to the french goverment stating she was asking when the carp lakes could reopen they replied as from 15th june english anglers would be allowed to travel through france to go carp fishing if covid figures stay low this was posted on facebook by zenon bojko
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In reply to Post #283
AT the moment!
Spain from last Monday introduced self confinement for 14 days for all people entering Spain from other European countries, tourists and nationals!
Isn't that what Blowjo is introducing to enter the uk?
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In reply to Post #284
https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/13/summer-holiday-rescue-package-eu-set-out-plan-to-save-your-vacation
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In reply to Post #281
I think he mentioned big, lavish holidays so assume he means your large family, long haul type holiday. Let's not forget Mr Hancock confused 80,000 with 120,000 and thinks items in the post are the same as items in possession.
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In reply to Post #281
There will be no quarantine requirements for travelling to France. Confirmed the other day.
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In reply to Post #281
What makes you say that as I did not see the statement?
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In reply to Post #280
Not looking good for any travel this year after mat Hancock statement
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In reply to Post #250
Finally managed to change my ferry crossing to September. They charged me £18 but i changed my car to a Ford Kuga after booking in December so admin fee on top of a larger car. Fingers crossed we'll be able to go this time.
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All I done Dave was to copy/paste it off the web 👍
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In reply to Post #273
Ok, thanks for the reply 👍
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In reply to Post #276
Hi Phil, think you need to check 1 of your dates in your opening paragraph! Hope you are keeping well m8!
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In reply to Post #274
No. The UK will remain a member of the European Union until 31 January 2020, when the current extension of the Article 50 period expires, unless it ratifies the Withdrawal Agreement negotiated with the EU by the end of December, which could allow the UK to leave on 1 January 2020.
The notification to leave the EU was sent on 29 March 2017, also referred to as the triggering of Article 50. The UK was originally due to leave at 11pm on 29 March 2019, when the original two-year Article 50 period came to an end. But this was extended to 12 April 2019 and then to 31 October when the UK failed to ratify the Withdrawal Agreement. The latest extension of Article 50 is the third to date.
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In reply to Post #274
Just read we are still in eu til dec 31st 2020 as it 11 month transition peroid and still under eu rules
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In reply to Post #267
I pay attention to "official" sources, it's not me being corrected,
The UK has LEFT the EU, we have no MEP in the EU parliament anymore.
Read the link below.
https://www.gov.uk/transition
I would guess the UK government knows a little better than a carp forum.
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In reply to Post #271
I message the club regularly, and although there English is not the best they do respond. (better than my Croatian to be fair) . I asked if it was open for UK anglers for the trip in July. They said yes but borders need to be open.
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In reply to Post #269
Thanks mate, where did you hear that if you don’t mind me asking ?
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In reply to Post #268
Yes mate 16th July hopefully so I'm gonna be ordering all the bits soon.
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In reply to Post #252
Sumbar is open as long as you can get into the country, the club have just confirmed.
Now waiting to see if they lift the 14 day quarantine ban.
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In reply to Post #266
Plenty of time to make your marker poles then Chris 👍
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In reply to Post #257
"Where have I been these last 5 months??"
Err, paying attention!!!! LOL, as other's have already corrected you, I'll say no more! 
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Well just received an email from angling lines saying they're hopeful that they may be able to resume trips from 15th of June so 🤞🏻🤞🏻
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In reply to Post #262
That's not relevant that's an agreement between France and the UK, not the UK and the EU.
Might not make a **** of difference to YOU, but for those wanting to travel to other EU countries it makes a massive difference, which is why I picked the poster up on it in the first place.
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In reply to Post #263
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-flying-from-france-to-the-uk-will-not-have-to-be-quarantined-11986268
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In reply to Post #260
For example, france wants to oblige 2 weeks of quarantaine for everyone. Hope the EU can smooth everything and make that al EU members have similar regulations.
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In reply to Post #261
Well it's relevant in this discussion because it means for this year UK residents will be able to travel to France without 2 weeks quarantine once travel is allowed to resume.
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In reply to Post #258
Whether we are included in the conversation is irrelevant. The uk is NOT in the EU anymore.
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In reply to Post #259
Hope that is true by 3rd july
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In reply to Post #256
I just want to let you know that it will be possible to travel within the EU.
So, fishing will be allowed as well
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In reply to Post #257
But we're still included up until December 31st when we either have a deal or walk away without one.
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In reply to Post #256
Where have you been for the last 5 months? The UK formally left the EU on 31st Jan 2020.
https://www.gov.uk/transition
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In reply to Post #255
I think you will find UK is still in EU....
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In reply to Post #249
There is a possibility that the EU borders will be closed for non EU members.
Or you should put yourself 14 days in quarantaine before entering.
This is still in debate within the EU.
Current rumors only talk about free traffic only for EU members.
Don't know how this will play out...
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In reply to Post #253
As long as you are prepared to self isolate for 14 days on your return! The latest Lunacy from the UK government apparently.
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In reply to Post #252
Finally received an email from Ferrysavers confirming I now have a credit note and asking for details of when I wish to travel. Let’s see what happens now!
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Just heard sumbar is only letting locals fish this year
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In reply to Post #249
You should be ok as long as the UK government let you out to play.😂
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In reply to Post #249
I’m out on September 12th but having no luck changing my ferry crossing.
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Im booked to go on September 19th and I’m confidant it will go ahead 👍
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Day 2 of trying to change my crossing.
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In reply to Post #244
Also this article:
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/End-of-lockdown-in-France-travel-rules
Which finishes with the statement “ Rules on international travel are not expected to change in May. Borders will remain closed until further notice. The restrictions will be maintained until at least June 15 with European countries unless there are imperative reasons to travel, such as work or an urgent family reason (childcare for divorced parents for example). ”
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Had an email from the trains today stating that they are extending any frequent traveler tickets for 12 months, good shout I say it’s not going to get us fishing at the minute but shows they value your custom
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In reply to Post #244
As far as I know, the whole of France´s 100 regions have been classified as either red (strongest restrictions) or green (less restrictions), having watched a sky news article earlier it was suggested that you can travel from a green to green region but not stopping at all in a red region, you are not allowed to travel from a red to green, or green to red region, sounds like a plan!
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There's an interesting article in the independent today about the French lockdown. A huge chunk of NE and some east central parts of France are classified red . This includes Paris the champagne area, Dijon and venues close to Belgium and German borders.
Red means these areas are going to come out of lockdown more slowly than orange/green areas. Brittany and parts of Normandy are green/orange areas.
So, it looks like it's gonna depend where you venue is that might determine whether or not you will be able to fish. I'm sure there are other variables too, but anyone with a venue to the north east/est central might be disappointed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-map-coronavirus-red-orange-green-zones-lockdown-end-a9494761.html
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In reply to Post #241
Think you will be ok in September, unless of course there a resurgence of the virus before then.
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In reply to Post #241
Think you will be ok in September, unless of course there a resurgence of the virus before then.
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In reply to Post #240
Not really confident that the rescheduled trip in September will go ahead to be honest.
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In reply to Post #239
Good luck, hope you get it sorted before 9 May.
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2 hours sat on-line and still waiting to talk to a customer services rep. This could take a while. I have been given a credit note but you cannot use it on-line and have to go through customer services. Tried phoning as well but recorded message tells you to do everything via website.
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In reply to Post #237
Laughable isn’t it? Booked it through Ferrysavers and a have requested a voucher twice so that I can rebook for September and this is the first response I have received. I will ring them today to find out what they intend to do.
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In reply to Post #234
That’s great......, so we’re on essential travel in the uk and in France there’s a 100km travel restriction limit and your p&o crossing been rescheduled to a date you still are not going to be able to use...BRILLIANT.
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In reply to Post #234
Still dont think you'll be able to travel unless its essential travel???
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In reply to Post #234
Good luck, what about the essential travel measures which will still be in place in the UK and France on 9 May?
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Just had an email from P&O saying they have rescheduled my crossing from May 2nd to May 9th. Brilliant.
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In reply to Post #232
https://www.france24.com/en/20200503-french-quarantine-rules-to-spare-travellers-from-schengen-area-and-britain
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In reply to Post #231
yep correct,
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In reply to Post #228
From the BBC:
“ France also clarified that a rule requiring anyone entering the country to go into isolation for two weeks did not apply to people arriving from EU countries, the Schengen area or the UK”
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In reply to Post #226
Only for non EU, Europe and Schengen area countries.
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In reply to Post #228
Ye that's what I read aswell
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In reply to Post #226
Some reports saying it is for people coming in from none EU countries
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In reply to Post #226
That will totally kill the tourism in france but health matters
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Looks like a French health minister wants to stop anyone traveling to France until at least the 24th of July.
And if they do then they will have to self isolate for two weeks.
They vote on it next week.
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In reply to Post #204
Managed to rebook Le Prunet for May 2021 so we didn’t lose our deposits, basically pushed it back 12 months, they were really easy to deal with so hats off to them
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In reply to Post #223
I think they are looking at stopping big gatherings of people like at football etc as with golf you can social distance yourself so maybe they will take that stance on fishing
Rather be on a bank social distancing than stood in a supermarket queue lol
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In reply to Post #222
I wasn't aware that the French class fishing as a sport , more a pastime/ hobby which of course it is .
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In reply to Post #221
From the 11th May certain sports are being allowed i.e. golf but no contact sports i.e. football but all of that will only apply to departments that are classed as green.
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In reply to Post #214
Today the French cancelled their Ligue 1 football program and in doing so also announced. "no sporting activity until September". They haven't expanded on what that means exactly so watch this space. They may mean events with spectators, for example.
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In reply to Post #219
Yep , no good to me 😭
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In reply to Post #218
The problem will be you can only travel 100kl max. So from calais you wont get very far.
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In reply to Post #217
I put my trips back to September and October , lost 3 trips ,
Not good if they keep the no travelling between departments for to long ,
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In reply to Post #216
We have always been a couple of weeks behind France
So sorry to say I have my doubts
This Coronavirus has a lot to answer for I would be out this Saturday absolutely gutted
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In reply to Post #212
A lot will depend on the UK side. France maybe open but will the UK?
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In reply to Post #212
Looks like some positives there.
I've missed my April trip as many have but have one later in the summer so am feeling optimistic about this one.
Hopefully we can all get out again soon.
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In reply to Post #213
Fingers crossed as due out 5th july
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In reply to Post #212
Thanks for that Nathan.Hope you don't mind but I have pasted this onto my Facebook page.
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In reply to Post #211
Hi All !
The French authorities today have declared the following -
As from the 11th May all businesses can re open ( not bars/ restaurants/hotels/cafes)
This means we can legally “open”
But ......we are not allowed to travel more than 100kms and not allowed to cross a county line.
Over the next few days /weeks the government will tell us more.
Also .....the government will start to open regions of France that are deemed “green” or “safe” and this will be from the middle of May.
The second phase of opening France will start on the 2nd June and we think then that is when people will be able to go on holiday with bars and restaurants being opened again. However, we all just have to be very very patient and see how this all pans out.
This is what is happening in France. The UK has still to decide what it’s going to do.
As I find out more I will update on here.
We are due regular updates from the French government.
I will be contacting all affected groups in due course. Please be patient.
Stay safe and “wash your hands!”
Looks like it will be June now
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Was meant to be in cretelakes last week cancelled and fair play to them a full refund as cant do next year as on abbey kingfisher
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In reply to Post #208
Re the frequent traveler. I called them and was told to email using the 'contact us' form on the website. Took about a week for them to get back to me.
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In reply to Post #205
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Rainbow.Lake/permalink/2943515085736653/
Borders still closed???
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In reply to Post #201
How did you find out about the Frequent traveller account being extended for a year?? Someone on here said they had been given 3 months extension, I`ve heard nothing from them.
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In reply to Post #203
Looking more than hopeful for my trip in September then 
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In reply to Post #205
we will see about that in these days when they tell us if we can drive and do nights...
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Fishing in Belgium allowed again from may 4th onwards.
There's light at the end of the tunnel.
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In reply to Post #191
Regards Carpasens , I believe they will be as helpful as possible. Never had a problem and they go the extra mile to help. I suggest you email them.
I have a trip in june to 3isles and they said if it we cant get there they will arrange a new trip asap. No loss of deposit.
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In reply to Post #202
Been told today by a french lake owner that macron will.lift lockdown on 11th may but this dosnt confirm if social gathering or events will be allowed
Also seen article from oliver Downton culture secretary that fishing and golf could be the first sports allowed after reduced lockdown due to the sports being able to social distance
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Well I'm proper in limbo at the moment, I was due out to angling lines blue lake on 16th of May, I'd accepted it weren't going to happen so waited on angling lines to contact us, so they gave us a choice of dates all for July and August but to lepinet instead, the only date we could all do was the 11th of July so we chose that thinking that was it but they then told us they hadn't cancelled our original booking so if restrictions are lifted before then we'd have to go and now macron is talking about lifting the travel ban on the 11th I havnt a clue whats going to happen, we could be left with a few days to get all our stuff ready.
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In reply to Post #200
Euro tunnel extended my frequent traveler for a year which I thought was pretty decent, should give me chance to get some trips in. Got trips to LDB and ribiere in august/ October.
Abbey have given me a 50% refund and then another 50% in September to help their cashflow. Difficult times, I'm happy enough with that if it keeps them going.
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In reply to Post #199
I'm only visiting a small fishery, due on 6th June, so while we are still hoping it will go ahead, I think realistically we've resigned ourselves to the fact that we won't be going.
Have spoken to the lake owner who has offered us a date for next year which has been pencilled in "just in case".
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A friend of mine should have been at bluewater this week
His party were offered a date in 2022 as lake fully booked until then, which he declined as he booked 2 and a half years ago. Full refund given. The question is, if they are doing this, why can't others?
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In reply to Post #197
I know on J2 Sue is trying to move everyone to dates in this year so i imagine she will be doing the same for J1. They arent very keen to move people to dates in 2021 at the moment.
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In reply to Post #193
any idea what's the current situation on j1 with cancelled trips ,
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In reply to Post #195
Very true mate. Those anglers on here who have been on the wrong end of deposits being lost/taken, i’m sure will not go to any of the lakes mentioned ..also, I doubt the many anglers seeing these issues will also go also go elsewhere..
What surprises me is, the fisheries, the owners, the issues, they have not come forward to disprove the information?? Why??? There have been quite a few with Domaine de la Ribière, and with Abbey to name but a handful. Checking on their FB, I see no proper announcement about their intentions during this lockdown, as far as necessary cancellations are concerned, it’s like they pick & choose who to take for a ride..
But there you go, they are out there, be careful people!
And thank god we have a site like this where people can exchange facts!
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In reply to Post #189
That’s a very good point. This isn’t just going to go away overnight. I would definitely not book a trip with them for the next couple of years if my deposit was at risk.
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In reply to Post #193
Just rang eurotunnel about our cancelled trip on may 9th and they are sending a voucher for our rebooked trip on may 8th next year ,only on the phone 2 or 3 minutes
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In reply to Post #191
Was due out to Jurassica 2 on May 2nd but its now been moved to mid September. No dramas, just need to get voucher back from ferry operator and rebook.
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In reply to Post #190
I just don’t get it.. why the hell would they upset people
Like this.. their anglers?!
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Anyone had a cancelled trip for one of the Carpa Sens venues yet? Due on Prunet end of May and obviously not gna happen so just wondering how they’ve dealt with it so far?
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In reply to Post #188
I expect they offered you that hoping you would not take it , keep your 30% and sell that date to someone else .
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In reply to Post #188
Wow, I’m really surprised at that! Do they think all the anglers on here, that see that are going to think they are fair?! What about the year after that? Is it worth booking something just to keep the coin??
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In reply to Post #187
Abbey lakes have kept my 30%deposit because I couldn't make the date next year 15th 22nd may spawning time.
Great company Not
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In reply to Post #180
Did Ribiere not offer other dates for you? I thought fisheries had to?
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In reply to Post #185
Ok, maybe a venue for a future session over there.. thanks 👍🏻
I’ll have a look online...
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In reply to Post #183
Yes I've been going to Paul's lakes for at least 10 years but he has now sold les saisons
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In reply to Post #178
Good advice 👍🏻
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In reply to Post #179
That’s good..👍🏻 Have you been there before?
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In reply to Post #181
Domaine de la Riberie.
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In reply to Post #180
Which lake?
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In reply to Post #179
The thing is when you`ve been fishing and supporting a lake for the last 8 years 2 trips a year, then still support the new owner since he`s taken over you expect the loyalty to be returned in extreme circumstances like now, not to get ripped off for 500 euros
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In reply to Post #178
My trip to lac du menhir on 9th may cancelled and moved to same week next year with no
Problems whatsoever
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In reply to Post #130
I had a lake exclusive booking with Dream Fishing Holidays to their new venue Maveline w/c 25th April, obviously we are not going.
Absolutely no problems, they just simply moved the booking to the the same week in 2022.
No problem with this, as getting lake exclusive bookings on good venues you have to book in advance and our 2021 trip is already booked.
Same with Eurotunnel & the Ibis hotel, that we had booked for the Friday night.
All was very easy, the lesson is, if your not happy with the response from agent or lake owner dont use them again & search and use the lakes/agents that are thinking about the long term future & have looked after their customers!
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My 1st trip as just been mutually cancelled with the lake owner and the trip moved to same date next year..
My trip is to la Saule Paquot.. Tony the owner has been very informative and kept me up to date on what his plans/actions on the coranvirus situation and the effect on his fishery bookings..I was due there 1st week of May.. the fishery owner couldn’t of been more helpful gave me other optional dates he has available for this year or run my trip same date next year.. with the uncertainty of when we will be actually be able to fish abroad I’ve booked my trip for next year.. big thank you to Tony at la Saule Paquot
I’ve also got x2 other dates planned for Holland canal /french rivers .. the good thing with these trips is it’s all public fishing so the only thing that needs changing will be my euro tunnel crossings..
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In reply to Post #133
Mixed communication Andys Deposit was`nt transferred to the alternate date, he lost it.
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In reply to Post #172
Most likely because the "new" member is infact someone who was banned not so long back, and if I'm right it was for making racist digs at a member
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Thanks for tidying Cam, you beat me to it
Both sides of the argument are at fault here...for arguing (unnecessarily)
However, the more aggressive users will get banned (and have been)
Everybody is allowed their say, but once you start getting all high and mighty you'll make yourself look stupid to all the level headed readers/posters.
Have your say.
Accept that not everyone will agree with you.
Let the sensible readers (who don't tend to get involved in the 'toy throwing') decide who they agree with.
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In reply to Post #172
Read #171 again.
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In reply to Post #171
Why is it the new member gets banned(rightly so)And not the older member also..both has bad has each other with the insults yet the newer member gets punished...much worse name calling ..bullying and offensive language on another Coronavirus thread off old members and nothing got done other than the posts deleted just ANOTHER slap on the wrist..everyone Shouid be treated in the same way 
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We are not picky on who we ban tbh so play nice..
A few members (not only here) are close to being given a CarpForum Style Lockdown so think about that.
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In reply to Post #169
Bye 
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In reply to Post #167
Actually, if you look back at the threads, which clearly you have not, you will discover where the mud slinging started.!
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In reply to Post #162
Listen, we can scrape all this back and look at what you have presented to an Army of Carp Anglers!
It’s wrong! What you have stated doesn’t even work chronologically with Anglers bookings for March, April, May and possibly June.
This is about decency, respect, relations & compassion during a time of international crisis. Luckily, 99% of fishery owners in France have all that in abundance, and did the right thing... just 1 or 2 trying it on because their business practices exclude compassion and respect for people. They will be exposed!
The newbies as you call them are not supporting me personally, they simply understand the chronological inaccuracies with your view point: they know your a keyboard warrior, and probably not even a proper carp angler.
Your statement is:
It’s the Carp Anglers Fault, and they should man up!!
May I suggest every Carp Angler on here contact Little Gold alligator, Or whatever his name is, and put all your future booking queries through his ultra wise mind?!!
Let’s see how you get on mate?
It’s sooo tempting to just keep on knocking you sideways with details, but I have to rearrange my sock draw, which is more important... And more mind challenging than watching you embarrass yourself further..!
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In reply to Post #158
you just can’t debate with morons
Fella - It's you that's coming across as the moron, and you that seems unable to debate without slinging childish insults. Grow up.
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In reply to Post #163
Would that be little croccok?!
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In reply to Post #162
Separated at birth maybe??
I don't think either will be around for much longer
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In reply to Post #159
his insurance company do what they do best and find a reason not to pay him
Or his Travel Agent or Holiday provider do what they are legally obliged to do....
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In reply to Post #159
Or “ what is big and yellow with a small brain and makes lots of noise”
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In reply to Post #160
Loving that you have all the newbies behind you.
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In reply to Post #159
Good reply mate 👍🏻
If we keep going, for like the rest of the week, he may turn a corner..! 🤣
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In reply to Post #156
Good reply mate 👍🏻
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In reply to Post #157
Or maybe another thread “ who talks a lot and thinks he knows everything but is actually very naive and will realise how stupid he is when his insurance company do what they do best and find a reason not to pay him”
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In reply to Post #154
All your doing Little purple CrocDIK, is showing to everyone on here your a compete muppet!
I’d like to get into this more with you, but you just can’t debate with morons, or should I say, you can’t polish a turd!!!!!
I’ll leave it there for others to rip you a new one. Said what I had to, and I j ow I’m 110% correct in every way.
See ya little croccok!
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In reply to Post #156
All I can ask again ….why is anybody bothering paying mega amounts of money out in insurance policies that they then are not claiming on.
I am waiting for a response from my bank insurance ( 365 cover for travel and health ) for my cancelled trip.
Obviously there is a massive backlog at the moment. If the bank comes up with reasons why they should not pay out , then I too will have to consider is insurance worthwhile in the future.
My trip was booked last July ….Paid in January
UK Gov stopped travel on 17th March ………...one week before my booking
That to me adds up that it will come out of the bank.
So perhaps another thread ' Who books foreign fishing trips correctly '?
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So YellowCroc, why, if everyone should be claiming under their Insurance policies are lake owners agreeing to move trips to later in the year or in our case, the same week next year?
It is exactly the same difference as giving a refund except for the fact that they don't actually have to give any money back.............they still can't sell the rearranged week next year so they will lose out on that booking money then. Conversely if they refunded, they could sell the week next year.....no difference.
Surely if what you are saying is right then the lake owners should do nothing, no refund, no alternative date and we all either claim under our Insurance policy, (if in force) or lose the money.
The fact that a lot of them are allowing dates to be moved demonstrates to me that they know they haven't got a leg to stand on in these particular circumstances if a refund was demanded.
Edit....in reply to post 155 in these circumstances you deal with your Travel Agent or in this case the lake owner, (as you booked direct, unless you used an Agent like Angling Lines) if you booked flights or a hotel directly then you would deal with them......your travel insurers will only consider a claim if a resolution cannot be found.....you should even contact your credit card provider first.
And it's got nothing to do with Motor Insurance, poor comparison there.
Maybe, just maybe you might be wrong in certain respects here pal....
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In reply to Post #151
Why will insurers expect resolution from the owners ??????????
Do car insurance go to the other driver or do they deal with the other insurance company.
Piss poor planning being blamed on others.
I have a summer break booked ………….. do I piss about trying to contact the hotel ( who will not even have my details yet ). or do I deal with the travel agent and my insurance company
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In reply to Post #153
Not bad for 9 posts …
I hope a ban is on the way.
You just compounded the fact that 6 people have failed to take steps to protect themselves at the time of booking.
As a group you each individually have the option of taking insurance...……...or does your mummy usually sort that out for you on the kids all inclusives………...Ooops
So easy to blame others ………
And as for the not wanting to meet you and your angry mates ………
I think if you survive a ban coming on here with that attitude / mentality something is wrong with this forum.
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In reply to Post #150
Does your insurance cover this type of scenario? As an individual, maybe!!
But what if you booked for 6 people??
September, I feel you will be ok.
The posts I presented were for those that found themselves tied up in the rapid expansion of mishandling deposits for March, April & May.... even June. Most fisheries I’m pleased to say, did the right thing, because, they are Carp Anglers through and through.
But let’s not forget, paid travel can be rearranged for a later date, but what if there isn’t a later date offered????
As I say from the start; the posts are not associated to well run fisheries in France that respect their clientele. Simple as that.
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In reply to Post #149
Was I a bit OTT?
When defending those that have lost a lot of money, let say £2350 on bookings, I think mate, I’ll go as deep as necessary to put these idiots in their place!!
The words he used are financially dangerous to those who find themselves in situations like BUZZMAN on here, with Ribiere.
Do you get it; small purple Croc or whatever his stupid name is, is either a fishery owner who has kept money and not refunded, or, a focking keyboard warrior! Also, with regards to bookings and insurance, he is completely wrong and, chronologically, incorrect.
Be different mate if it were you I was defending.. you’d be right behind this..
it’s all in the detail.
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In reply to Post #150
Easier said than done mate. Your Insurers will expect the provider to offer a resolution. This is just one reason why I said to Croc boy that it's not black and white but he doesn't like to listen to anyone elses opinion!
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In reply to Post #149
im booked for france in sept ive only payed deposit so far i think its prob less than 50/50 of going if i dont get my money back i wont blame anyone ill just claim of my hol insurance
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In reply to Post #148
Bit OTT there mate. Take a chill pill.
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In reply to Post #146
That is the reply I was looking for!!!
There you go, I’m obviously talking to either a disgruntled fishery owner or a keyboard warrior who lives with his Mum.
As for manning up, per your request, believe me mate, you wouldn’t say that to my face, or to a group of Carp anglers from Sheffield who just lost their hard earned money!!!!
If you had an ounce of intelligence, you’d be renamed at best as ‘fuktard’!
The fact that you have not read properly the messages before this one, with some scope and detail, tells me a lot about you. Per the last message I just posted;
Shall I break it down for you once more, I think so!
MOST fisheries are happy to either refund your deposits in full, or use those deposits to book a future trip at the same venue ASAP. This is called good business practices, displaying loyalty, compassion and respect to the very client that enables them to have a business year in year out.
If a venue states it will not use the deposit for a future booking, and that the deposit is lost because the angler was not able to attend, this is simply, robbing the angler of money, given the crisis!
By the way; just because terms and conditions are displayed before A booking Is made stating this, that and the other, does not mean in any way those terms are bound by law, being adheres to, or even legal under trading standards.
Also; in this world of Carp Angling, it is relations that assist the merry go round of anglers, lakes, tackle and bait! As for insurance, most people do not take out Insurance until The final balance is due, usually 8 weeks prior to the trip.
For the purpose of this demonstration, let’s say you had to pay your balance March 1st, for a trip may 11th, where a deposit of 50% was paid 6 Months prior.
You are now not going to pay your balance, because there IS NO trip!! You are locked down!!
Therefore, and again, so you can understand this.
There would be no insurance in place!
So; if I booked a trip last year, arranged my insurance cover to start from the date of balance Settlement, then there is no cover. In this case, the fishery owner should be compassionate, and use those deposits for a future booking.
Is that simple enough for you ?
I won’t answer your messages again, simply because I think your ****er!
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In reply to Post #146
In these circumstances it is not so black and white Croc....
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In reply to Post #138
So that is YOUR problem..... I bet you and many others have not even given a thought to taking insurance for trips booked , particularly if booked as part of a group.
You are not doing it right . …. and then crying that it is down to somebody else to pick up the pieces.
EVERY holiday you book , be it fishing , Spain with the wife , skiing …...offers you insurance or advises you take insurance out elsewhere to cover travel / no show ...whatever.
I bet you a pound to a piece of sh!t that all these people without the correct insurance , will just carry on regardless booking trips and thinking ...it won't happen again.
Man up it is whoever booked the trip that has failed.
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In reply to Post #144
Firstly; This is not about fault!
If I had a business where I had to rely upon withholding clients money in the event of a business catastrophe, then I have failed my clients, in this case, anglers.
In most cases; it’s totally understandable to keep the deposits, but, they should be used for future bookings.
The deposit Funds should not simply be used to quantify managing a business through a tough time, this is unacceptable, a false economy and bad practice.
In fact, if you wish to get legal, you should not spend, allocate or disperse deposits until you have fulfilled the agreed contract the funds are for.
IE: someone may wish to cancel, therefore, those funds should be readily available to refund back.
Most fisheries have excellent relations with their anglers, and in most cases, things like this can be arranged in a sensible, amicable manner, for both parties.
But for fisheries who have little, or no compassion & respect for anglers money, or loss, these fisheries ought to be exposed.
Why?
So that anglers in the future, CAN make an informed decision in the future, as to where they spend this hard earned money.
I’ll end with this:
The above words do not associate to well managed, respectful and decent fisheries.
The words above relate to those at the opposite end of that spectrum!
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In reply to Post #143
a lot of fishery owners make a living out of there business not a killing how are they meant to manage with no anglers money coming in if they refund everyone its hardly there fault either
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In reply to Post #136
I’ll put like this:
It’s the right thing to do..
And for those who do not, where fishery owners keep funds, knowing the angler looses money, they will not be in business long..
word gets around, simple as that. Shame on them during a crisis.
& by the way; you can’t get insurance to cover a scenario like this! It all comes under act of god!
Most fisheries have done exactly what should be done, return deposits, or use those deposits to book a trip later in the year, or the following year, not in 2023!!!!
Does that answer the question!!!!
It’s called respect, honour, loyalty and compassion.
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In reply to Post #64
Andy Carper 82 Did your deposit get swapped over to your new date????
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In reply to Post #136
I have been reading a few posts elsewhere and it seems that some people are having problems with insurance
One of the reasons being the border was not closed and other are saying that there are all sorts of terms that mean they are not covered
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In reply to Post #138
It is in my, and probably everyone’s else view, completely working to withhold people money, or not offer to use that money for a future trip. It’s disgusting!
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In reply to Post #137
I’m no lawyer, but surely Ribiere is not entitled to funds without fulfilling some alternative means for taking the money.
Either way, all other fisheries have either refunded the money or offered dates late in the year, with the deposits from cancelled trips, due to the lockdown.
I’d be interested to see your mates message on here.. Fisheries like this need to be exposed.
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In reply to Post #136
Is that travel insurance you buy??? So do I but just before I go not 3 years in advance when the trip is booked.
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In reply to Post #135
Friend of mine is due out at Riberie on 9th May, the lockdown is in force until at least the 11th May, he received a mail from Riberie stating that if hes not there by the 11th May thats 3 days into his 7 day trip so giving him 4 days fishing, he will lose his deposit. I believe if the travel ban was lifted the earliest he would be able to travel would be the 12th. Hes a regular who has supported Riberie since David bought it.
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In reply to Post #130
How much 'good will' can a fishery give.
I am failing to see why people expect the lakes to pay out.
You book your trip you take insurance OR NOT !!!
Where is the incentive for people to take insurance in the future
More interesting would be … how many of these anglers actually have the insurance in place ??
As stated previously , I have had one English venue keep the deposit because I refused to pay the balance and then have to claim on my insurance if we were still prevented from travel.
And my French trip has insurance in place ………… I pay the insurance (bank ) and I go to them to refund me …..simples
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In reply to Post #133
Messaged him but heard nothing back yet.
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In reply to Post #129
It doesn't state its not transferable so i would expect it to be transferred to another booking . It also states that deposits are non refundable except in individual, exceptional circumstances at the discretion of Domaine de la Riberie. So is this not exceptional circumstances. If I had cancelled then I would expect to lose my deposit but I have`nt. French and English governments have stopped me going, pretty exceptional reasons.
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In reply to Post #125
Just out of interest mate: Did you see the feed from AnyCarper on March 28th..?
His was able to move his trip to Ribiere later in the year, using his deposit on the cancelled trip..
You should check that out seeing as you have lost your deposit (if that’s what has happened)??
Good luck....
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In reply to Post #131
Sure they will... as soon as few new photos of big fish come out...
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In reply to Post #125
That’s not good from Ribiere, especially during these terrible times..
anglers certainly will not go there after this, if that is their attitude!!
I see that most other venues offer a full refund, or alternate dates..
Look at LDP for a good example.
How can they take your deposit with offering something in return for the funds??
What was the outcome??
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In reply to Post #129
Goodwill gesture like many other fisheries have done, probably still trying to get financial assistance from 1 Government or another, depending where they are tax registered.
In theory and my interpretation as an accountant, if they are keeping the deposit money then technically they are still trading in so far that they still have an income and should therefore not be entitled to Government support.
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In reply to Post #125
They have not changed anything …...Always been 50% deposit NON refundable …………..why would you expect them to change??
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In reply to Post #126
Due to booking P&O with Tesco vouchers …………...They would only offer a crossing if taken before the end of this year.
Had it been a full cash booking , I could have had a full refund.
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In reply to Post #126
Thanks Bren
I have been reading a few reviews and It sounds like it may depend on who you get on the other end of the phone to what they will do for you, there argument regarding refunds seems to be that they are still operatin.
If I can get a voucher then that could work out well. I am just sitting on my hands at the moment until next month 👍
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In reply to Post #124
The email said it has to be used within one year from today but the but the travel date can be later, I think if you paid in full you can get a full refund, we partly paid with tesco clubcard vouchers.
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In reply to Post #64
Riberie are now keeping deposits on cancelled trips even if they are rearranged or you have other trips booked and telling customers to claim on travel insurance
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In reply to Post #123
Thanks Bren
That's How I understood it aswell Micky. I purchased Start of March this year so that mean that I have to take my trip by March Next year
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In reply to Post #121
Just waiting for them to email it to us, I'll let you know
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In reply to Post #121
I believe a ticket can run from one year from the date of purchase
Although I might be wrong
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In reply to Post #118
How long is the voucher valid for ? I have a trip in June and while I may be able to change fishing booking for next year the dates will be after June 2021
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In reply to Post #119
I told them my trip as been cancelled due to covid19
And I wasnt going to go next year.
They refunded no problem hope you get it sorted
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In reply to Post #116
i had no joy yesterday, although were flexible with keeping the ticket valid till end of next year.
Ill have another go.
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In reply to Post #116
Lac desire have just moved our dates to next year, chunnel wouldnt refund our cost though, they have given me a voucher to re book though
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I was due at fuiellette on Saturday and straight on to Renard both cancelled.
Starting to think my trip in June is also doubtful as well.
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In reply to Post #115
Hi adam
I had a standard ticket,phoned them up told them I want ho cancel
3 days later money in the bank.
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In reply to Post #107
i was on abbey at the same time buddy, not heard yet either.
re your tunnel ticket, did you have a flexi ticket to get it refunded ?
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In reply to Post #108
I think they only open dates 9-11 months in advance looking at website
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In reply to Post #111
Cheers dude
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In reply to Post #110
Good luck mate
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In reply to Post #109
Yeah was out 2nd may if I don't hear from abbey by the end of next week then I'll chase it up.
I believe Evelyn is phoning the party's leader individually.
And now France has extended the lockdown I would imagine there be in contact soon
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In reply to Post #107
Can't belive you still ain't heard from them , you was out the same date as us weren't you ?
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In reply to Post #107
My mates gonna ring em , see what happens , we did try to move the date but the website only goes to march next year not may , fingers crossed
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In reply to Post #106
Still waiting for abbey to contact me
As for the tunnel I've cancelled it
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Our 2nd may bounty trip now moved to same date next year , just waiting to hear about the tunnel
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Le Queroy were straight on to us within minutes of the announcement for our 2nd May trip....we have agreed to move it and take the same week next year....👏👍
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In reply to Post #103
France lockdown extended to May 11th.....
BTW.
My trip this year was resolved completely amicably in what are extraordinary circumstances totally out of anyone's control and I could not thank the owners enough. Every situation is unique and people are doing all they can given the circumstances.
This is not anyone's fault (except maybe the Chinese communist rulers if you believe the conspiracy theories). So we just need to take it on the chin and put it down to experience.
At the end of the day were all losing out.
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In reply to Post #102
Cheers Andy
Only two of us going its a small lake with a good stock of stunners
Nic who owns it does a cracking food package as well
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In reply to Post #97
I went in November a few years ago(different venue though) , had a 67lb pb, a 50, few 40's so you might be in for a cracking week.just take some thermals, plenty of gas and now would be a good time to fabsil the bivvy for the rain.
Tip.
Get up on a single beep and watch the tip to see if its moving.... by the end of the season the fish are getting smart at ejecting hooks.
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In reply to Post #100
I was due to go in may to abbey I phoned Eurostar up and cancelled over the phone got full refund
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In reply to Post #99
Has anyone done anything with their frequent traveler on the eurotunnel? I've got 3 trips left on mine that runs until August. Probably none of those trips will happen, I wondered if anyone had been able to extend their end date to use them or got a refund?
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In reply to Post #98
Tim we can but hope 👍
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In reply to Post #97
My annual trip is again the sunny first 2 weeks of November. Still really unclear whether it can happen...... hope we can all get some fishing done in 2020😕
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In reply to Post #96
Moved my May week on Coron to sunny November 👍👍
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In reply to Post #1
www.carpfishingtrips.co.uk
we booked with these for April 18th
Rob the man who runs it has been kind enough to move us to October
no charge and no problem to him. All I can say is he was great and will book through him again for sure
only an extra £10 to move our channel tunnel dates too
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In reply to Post #94
Day time jogging and exercise is only banned in Paris
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In reply to Post #92
I recieved an email from carte d' peche last night like many of you who have bought a licence, it says the ban on fishing will stay in place indefinitely, ( public waters ) and no reimbursement as they are using the money to improve the lakes/rivers. But who knows things are changing daily. Now no jogging through the day! Like has been said December is a long time away so hopefully if the travel restrictions are lifted we might be all fishing by July .
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In reply to Post #92
Just like current attestation I need to go shopping or to the pharmacy. It has changed from the original form to a more detailed form with more options. I predict the same with this travel attestation if it isn't scrapped altogether.
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In reply to Post #91
On the attestation you state your reason for entering France.
Going on a jolly with the lads with a bit a fishing thrown in isn't an option to tick I'm afraid.... you can argue this out with French immigration.
You can't even blag it as a work party, they've missed this one out as well.
Fingers crossed it'll be a temporary requirement.....
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In reply to Post #83
It means the attestation is in place until December 2020, not travel restrictions. Brittany Ferries are starting to sail again 22nd April and P&O are ramping up to normal services again as well
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In reply to Post #87
Think we can predict next week i.e. going to get worse, but agree the end of December is a long way off! It would be encouraging to see some improvements in the results from Italy, Spain and France, maybe a drop in the rate of new cases but the number of deaths remains alarmingly high and we are following that curve!
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In reply to Post #83
And on the 2nd April, Edouard PHILLIPE announced possibly until the end of October, now it looks like until the end of December, Who knows?
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The December date could be Brexit related not Covid?
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In reply to Post #86
It's such a fluid situation that nobody knows what's happening next week, never mind December!
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In reply to Post #83
This word "MIGHT" figures quite a bit in that statement!!! Its advice ,no more.
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In reply to Post #84
Tell the French and UK Government that, the statement was taken off the official site that is linked.
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In reply to Post #83
Bit premature as we are only into April.
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In reply to Post #82
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/entry-requirements
Update overnight on requirements to enter France, you now need to complete the Attestation and although it's not clear, it might be that these restrictions are in place till the end of Dec 2020.
It might be that the passport requirements are in place till the end of 2020 but if it does actually require an attestation till the end of 2020 then that's all fishing holidays cancelled till the end of 2020.
Obviously this could impact fisheries heavily but then they should have adequate insurance and they may be getting compensated by the French Government.
Entry requirements
The information on this page covers the most common types of travel and reflects the UK government’s understanding of the rules currently in place. Unless otherwise stated, this information is for travellers using a full ‘British Citizen’ passport.
The authorities in the country or territory you’re travelling to are responsible for setting and enforcing the rules for entry. If you’re unclear about any aspect of the entry requirements, or you need further reassurance, you’ll need to contact the embassy, high commission or consulate of the country or territory you’re travelling to.
You should also consider checking with your transport provider or travel company to make sure your passport and other travel documents meet their requirements.
Anyone making a journey to an airport, port or train station in order to return to the UK will need to download and complete an “attestation” or declaration certifying their reason for travel. This is available on the French Ministry of Interior website. Please note that you are permitted to hand write and sign a similar declaration if you are unable to access printing facilities. You can carry a physical copy of the declaration or an electronic version. This e-attestation is available on the Ministry of Interior webpage.
On 6 April 2020, the French authorities introduced a separate requirement to provide a certificate or “attestation” to enter mainland France.
Passport validity
Your passport should be valid for the proposed duration of your stay; you don’t need any additional period of validity on your passport beyond this.
The rules on travel will stay the same until 31 December 2020.
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In reply to Post #81
Gents
Nobody knows what is going to happen with this virus everyone needs to take it day by day nothing more frustrating than being told you cant go fishing but we all need to stay safe so we can one day return to the sport we love
Hopefully this will.only last till end of june and we can all get back to some sort of normality.
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In reply to Post #80
Nobody said it would be locked down until October, what he said was travel restrictions between borders could still be in place until October. Lock down is until the schools go back in May.
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In reply to Post #79
No chance France will be locked down till October. Their already creaking economy wouldn't survive.
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In reply to Post #78
Edouard PHILIPPE announced last night that travel restrictions across borders could last until the end of October.
Also School holidays officially start today and finish the 4th May. He has extended the travel ban to cover this period so no holidays. Official date for ban to end is the 15th April but will be extended.
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Got 3 trips one in May so obviously not going and again in September? also in October to Florida Fishing for Tarpon for a week,not sure I'll be going on any
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In reply to Post #76
You've got half a chance in September and November I would think
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Had to cancel March this year and will probably have to cancel trips in both September and November...Bummer 
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In reply to Post #74
We have a house in SW France and flights booked for Easter (now cancelled), May, July, August and October. God knows how many of those trips will be cancelled, at least it gives the Carp a chance!!!
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Got two trips one in September and the other in November hopefully the nov one will be ok but maybe the September one will be 50/50 wether it will be open
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In reply to Post #72
Anyone who thinks they will be going anywhere in Europe before the latter half of this year is seriously deluded ! The current restrictions will not be discussed to be lifted until there’s a massive decline in the number of infections and even then travel restrictions will not be lifted overnight . I hope I’m wrong as I’ve trips booked for June , August , Oct and Nov . Realistically I’m thinking the Nov trip might be ok ...
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Got a northern Italy trip booked for late June so am hopeful, plus a france trip early August. Tbh, i think the biggest challenge by then will be the UK bit!
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I've a 2nd week in May date that will have to be taken mid November if pushed back. Now thats going to be a cold week but hopefully no issues that late in the year.
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In reply to Post #69
Don't you mean April 15th ish
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In reply to Post #68
foreign travel is not banned, the borders are open but currently France has travel restrictions ( no holidays!) for another 3 weeks so that'll take it to April 15th ish.
Non essential travel in the UK is however 'banned' and you can get a £30 fine for ignoring this and the police may instruct you to go home, take you home etc with discretion and common sense.
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I wouldn't rearrange anything for this year. Even though we should see improvement here within the next 6 to 10 weeks I can see all non-essential foreign travel banned for quite a while..
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In reply to Post #66
If were still in this mess in August we'll be in such a bad way that our way of life will be changing significantly.... fishing will not be on our minds.
I'd like to think 6 weeks of restrictions, maybe longer in places like London, will see us through the worst.
Within a week from now we'll have stricter movement controls due to the idiots still ignoring requests to stay inside. Focus will be on the virus hotspots.
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In reply to Post #64
At this rate we'll be lucky if this is over by August, I just can't see and end to it all.
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In reply to Post #64
How do you know you can travel in the summer?
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In reply to Post #60
My ribiere trip on the 11th apr has now been moved to Aug following the extension of the movement restrictions in France.
At least I didn't lose all my money and need to have try and claim on insurance.
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In reply to Post #62
Change made
On 27 March 2020, the French government extended the confinement period for at least a further two weeks, until 15 April 2020. (‘Summary’ and ‘Coronavirus’ pages)
Time updated
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In reply to Post #61
Please provide a link for that last piece of information, doesn´t affect me now, but I do have friends still in France (properly registered) and still in the dark! Thanks
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In reply to Post #60
Angler’s that are experiencing problems getting holiday refunds should be aware that all French fisheries are required to be French registered and have a Siret number. They are therefore required to abide by French Law not English Law. Anyone who has made a payment to a French venue regardless of making the payment to an English bank are entitled to a full refund. Also that the French government are putting in place a compensation scheme for registered businesses which includes fishing venues.
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Etang rendavous have just moved our trip from 11th april to same time next year. Been waiting 2 years down to 3 weeks now up to 12 months again.... at least no money lost.
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In reply to Post #58
any news on jurrasica are they refunding or moving to next available date
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In reply to Post #56
Danny slackarse got a canning on FB,
Knee jerk reaction and now backtracked
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In reply to Post #56
I think it might be more to do with the backlash they received on Social Media Yonny.
They were getting a right "pasting" last night, with many, many folk saying they would never go back there....
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In reply to Post #54
I'm told Gigantica are now refunding the none returnable deposits after Tom @ Sticky Baits offered to reimburse all those that lost out from his own pocket.
Dunno how accurate this is. Odd state of affairs if true.
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In reply to Post #54
That's so wrong I have been offered another week this year or a date next year big thanks to nick at 3 island lakes been very accomodating
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In reply to Post #53
I also think Gigantica should be applauded. Friends of mine have been told that they will not get back any of their full payment made or an alternative date for next year ! The venue Napoleon Lakes will not even answer their messages !!!
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In reply to Post #52
I agree to an extent. But their closure isn't their fault either. It's a difficult one. I would have thought the least they could do was offer alternative dates later this year or next.
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In reply to Post #51
Leaves a little bit of a nasty taste though.
I can understand "non refundable" in the case of somebody cancelling their trip and leaving them with a blank week at short notice.
But that isn't the case in this instance.
People who want to go now can't through no fault of their own.
I think that the fishery should have made an exception in this case.
But that's only my opinion, and like ********s, we all have our own.
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In reply to Post #43
You agree to their terms when you book. So surely the clue is NON refundable? If you don't like or agree to the possibility you will lose that 100 pounds then you don't book.
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In reply to Post #43
Fair play they'll carry on paying their employees wages whilst losing money at an unprecedented time. Let's see how many other companies are arsed/able to commit too the same.
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In reply to Post #48
Maybe, what would I have done if I was still operating a lake in France, in a word....more!
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In reply to Post #46
Lol
It's far more generous than many other French fisheries, it should be applauded.
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In reply to Post #43
A total disgraceful response, wouldn´t have expected anything more!!
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In reply to Post #44
That's why it's called a deposit
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In reply to Post #39
Gigantica, shutting for 30 days at least, refunding money, except the £100 deposits.
Nothing wrong with that......Its a NON Refundable deposit.....
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This is the response from Gigantica
In response to those who cannot understand why Gigantica is choosing to retain only the £100 nonrefundable deposit after France went into Lockdown, we ask everyone to understand a business is made up of people. Those people have a wage that pays their bills, their mortgage and feed their families. Gigantica will continue to pay those wages in spite of a major substantial loss for the coming weeks. Gigantica will be loosing a minimum of £395 per person over the whole period which is almost four times what any individual will lose. We believe this is more than appropriate when we are not legally bound to return any monies and the situation is beyond all of our control. We hope you can look at this from both sides and understand we should all share the burden of this situation, and appreciate that we are giving back far more than we actually need to.
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In reply to Post #41
My pal who lives in France just told me TODAY
His Booked 2 weeks fishing in April and his one beginning of May have BOTH been cancelled by the fishery owners
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he is NOT ALLOWED to drive anywhere other than the Pharmacy and supermarket and that is not without restrictions
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In reply to Post #40
it doesnt matter what they say... legally they should be closed... also saw somewhere on fb Leon Hoogendijk stating that fishing is banned in France on public and private venues for now...
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The worse thing is the lakes saying they're open knowing we can't travel there, even though they were still aloud to travel to France which will mean the travel insurance won't pay out because your not going out of choice effectively. If the lakes just shut you can claim for it.
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In reply to Post #38
Gigantica, shutting for 30 days at least, refunding money, except the £100 deposits.
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In reply to Post #36
There is a 15 day restriction on making journeys in france from 17th march?
So, you'll not be going to a french venue any time soon
Current advice -
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france
There is an ongoing outbreak of coronavirus (COVID-19) in France. The French Government outlined new measures on 16 March to stem the spread of coronavirus, including restricting the movement of people from midday 17 March for 15 days to journeys that are absolutely necessary, such as food shopping, seeking medical care, journeys to work where working from home is not possible, or exercising. The French Government has said it will enforce these measures and fine those who are not compliant. The French Government will provide further guidance on how these measures will be enforced. Travellers should follow instructions of the French authorities.
On 16 March, the French Government announced that the EU would suspend travel between the EU and non-European countries for an initial period of 30 days from midday 17 March. The French Government confirmed that these restrictions will not apply to UK nationals. We will update our advice with details of any EU measures when confirmed.
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In reply to Post #36
It's getting back in a couple of weeks that may be the problem
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In reply to Post #34
As it currently stands all travel between all Schengen EU Countries (border less with France like Germany, Belgium etc) is banned including Switzerland which is part of this border less Schengen agreement but not in the EU.
However, the UK isn't part of this agreement and doesn't fall within this restriction as we have a border so all UK to France crossings via the ferries and tunnel are still open and as normal. There are some on-board restrictions to passenger numbers and some operators have a limited timetable.
If your French lake is still open for business (they are currently not legally forced to close) and the roads are currently open and unrestricted within France and most fuel stations are now only operating a pay at the pump service but as far as we see the situation it's business as usual.
We recommend that you take as many provisions as you can so you don't have the visit supermarkets etc but if you do need to, the venue should be able to print you off a document entitling you to travel to stock up on provisions without any travel issues from the French police.
Hope this helps as there are many differing reports on what is closed. Things may change daily so keep an eye on the social channel for all the crossing operators.
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In reply to Post #34
https://www.thelocal.fr/20200316/lockdown-what-exactly-do-frances-new-coronavirus-rules-mean
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All non essential travel across borders cancelled for 30 days now in Europe that includes UK visitors.
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In reply to Post #32
Brussels had announced earlier on Monday it had proposed closing the EU's borders to stop the spread of coronavirus but said a decision would not be made until the next day.
The UK's Foreign Office said the UK is not included in the closure and told Britons in mainland Europe to continually monitor travel advice as it is changing rapidly.
Doesn't affect us yet but for how long is anyone's guess
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In reply to Post #31
Seems I may have been misinformed?
I hope it stays open and can travel as I am booked via the tunnel
Luckily the lake owner is a decent bloke and has offered to reschedule my booking to next year so not too bad.
I’m not holding out much hope though,fingers crossed 🤞
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In reply to Post #28
Still travel between France and Uk at the moment https://www.eurotunnel.com/uk/travelling-with-us/latest/covid-19/
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Eurotunnel is still open?
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In reply to Post #19
Where have you seen this?
Website makes no mention of it?
Just seen that is only on certain crossings, not a blanket closure of sailings!
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In reply to Post #26
I will stand corrected if you are correct
I hope you are correct
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In reply to Post #26
Lol so they closed borders with all countries that are battling virus with closed schools, restaurants etc and left open border with probably the only country in the world without any actions to stop spreading the virus... I am sure they are not that stupid...
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In reply to Post #21
Border is not closed between the UK and France.
The EU border is closed
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In reply to Post #24
also spoken to p&o today they said no sign of stopping travel unless they are instructed by goverment and French lockdown due to stop on 6th April subject to change obviously
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In reply to Post #21
Looks like I'll be fishing the local syndicate instead of going to Ribiere...grrrrr
Positive thing is that I've got loads of bait....
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In reply to Post #21
P&o site saying sailing still leaving dover on time nothing about being cancelled
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In reply to Post #1
I was going out on the 18th of April for a week's fishing but I myself have decided not to go. I can't see this going away any time soon plus I don't know if myself or a loved one will be sick at this time the future. Always next year or the end of the year.. But know one knows what the future holds or what the world will be like in just one months time
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My April 11th trip has just been cancelled
Border have close initially for 30 days
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In reply to Post #18
It was off anyway , Pascal's closed the lake for the foreseeable future.
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Brittany Ferries have cancelled their crossings for the next 2 weeks, I guess that will be extended again as well.
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Looks like my friends trip to rainbow in Easter is off then
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In reply to Post #16
I think the french borders are due to close for a month 🤣🤣🤣
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Here is the official statement from Abbey Lakes
As being one of the oldest player in the fishing world for the last 20 years, we feel it’s important to officialise our statement regarding the actual holiday issues linked to the COVID-19 and invite all other french fisheries to follow the initiative in order to treat all anglers equally wherever they’ve booked their holidays in France !
We all know the actual situation and we all know it’s changing fast but for this reason we would like to confirm that we will try to support financially as much as we can our booked anglers.
This statement will only concern (for the moment) next 30 days, which means all booking from now till 18th of April. If french borders get closed or if french adminstration asks us to close the complex or if we are not able anymore to provide the right qualitative service we’ve done till now towards our anglers , we will close the complex and propose those concerned anglers to refund their balance amount as we won’t be able to postpone their angling session later this year as we are already fully booked.
Regarding the serious cashflow issue we will encounter by applying this statement we will be able to refund your balance amount at 50% at your request and the other 50% begin september which will give us the time to claim back all our VAT reimbursement. I hope this makes sense for everyone and that you can also understand our side of the situation.
Regarding coming balance payments due normally 10 weeks before arrival we invite you to pay them as usual bearing in mind now that if the situation evoluates in the future we will continue to apply same rules described above. If you still don’t feel confident with this official statement we will allow our anglers booked between 18th of April and 06th of June to pay their balance amount in euros at arrival.
Fishing at Abbey is not only being after big fish but it’s also being part of a real and strong community. So lets us all stick together and let us all beat this f** situation all together !
Don’t worry…be ABBEY…✌️
SEB
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Seems like Abbey lakes are now going to refund anglers incase of lock down and are urging all French fisheries to follow suit so here's hoping🤞🏻
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Mates of mine are booked on Chatilliers early May I cannot go this year, Delphine and JP the owners have messaged in the Whatsapp group they have setup to say they will amend it to another week if their not allowed to travel, makes sense for any respectable owner with repeat customers year on year not to be short sighted.
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In reply to Post #1
etang neuf Neuily has agreed to give us a week later in the year if available
and if we cant get out April 18th
through carp fishing trips
I have been 3 times before and intend going again anyway
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Rainbow lake has taken the decision to close as of yesterday, you don't pay until you arrive so nobody loses any money only the trip.
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In reply to Post #6
Another fishery doing all they can in the current circumstances. Well done Lac Desire!!
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In reply to Post #1
We're supposed to be going out on the 6th June for a week.
Small fishery, we've visited it a few times now and have become firm friends with the owner. Have paid in full.
I've "casually" broached the subject with her regarding a possible curtailment due to ferry/tunnel closures and she has responded thus...... "Obviously you will get your week at some point hopefully the week you’ve booked. x" so I'm assuming that she'll roll the week over for us.
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In reply to Post #8
In another week or 2 they might all be shut to foreigners even if they are able to find a means of travelling to France, like all businesses involved with the leisure industry it is going to cause chaos!! A lot of fisheries won´t be able to offer alternative dates, might be the same in the UK soon?
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Apparently dreamlakes has been told to shut, and rainbow has shut also.
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In reply to Post #6
Nice to see the lakes offering refunds it will hit them.bad the longer it gos on
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In reply to Post #1
Just had an email back from lac desire, saying they have no plans to close and if our date cant be moved they would give us a refund, cant really ask for more than that
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In reply to Post #3
Another venue doing the best for its customers , this venue will be on my list for the future.
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In reply to Post #1
Im not booked with them but cretelakes are saying trips going ahead as normal at the moment. On the coronavirus thread it was said that French lakes wont be closed unlike a lot of french business so i guess its just the borders being closed that's going to stop us? 🤞🤞 im on a drive and survive trip to le prunet 3rd of April. We plan on taking enough supplies for a week so wont even need a trip to supermarket so wont come into contact with anyone. Obviously none of that matters if we cant go through the tunnel.
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In reply to Post #1
Bows fishing lakes have said
"In light of the current coronavirus outbreak, we would like all our customers to know that should the borders close on your day of departure and you are unable to make it to us, we will issue you a full refund. However it will be for this reason only."
Hopefully it won't come to this but hopefully other lakes will follow suit if it does.
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I am going in May told all ok with lake booking, it's the ferries I am more worried about or even a travel ban?
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As this bonkers virus grips hold has anyone had there trip cancelled yet as I am due out end of april to france just wondering how it affecting the ferries etc
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Venues (Foreign)