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In reply to Post #87
I always wonder that and smile when you see manky bottles going for unbelievable amounts of money....
I used Nutrabaits N Butyric Acid quite a bit in the late 80’s early to mid 90’s, that stunk to high heaven, found the bottle in the garage the others year, and it had lost a lot of its pungency but still smelt stronger than the stuff been touted about on the market now
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The Nash frozen Scopex Squid still smell like the old scopex I remember once they have sweat up a bit in the bucket.
I don’t get the original bottles of flavour thing. Surely chemical flavours are volatile by nature and therefore degrade over time. A 20 year old bottle of flavour might smell the same to our weak human noses, but I’d be very surprised if they still measured in any way similar to when they were made.
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In reply to Post #1
I’m currently using a mix of three Scopex flavours in my specials, Blake’s , DT and feedstim plus NBA
Now they are over flavoured as they are used as singles etc. They smell lovely but not like the original Scopex, more like coconut cream (read Cell) similar but not the same
Any way I made some the other day and inadvertently left the dropper in the draining sink, the next morning the kitchen smelt just like the original Scopex, warm buttery and one of those fragrances you can’t help but sniff, So maybe just sniffing the bottle is giving a slightly false smell? Just a thought!!
I’m currently awaiting some Diacetyl and Acetoin to play around with hookbait wise
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In reply to Post #83
Was it Rayners???
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In reply to Post #83
Very wise advice. In hindsight I wish that I had bought a lifetimes supply of scopex....and some of the other amazing attractors available 30 years ago!
Slightly changing the subject but, on a similar vein, I recently ordered some of my usual hooks and they arrived in an unusually sharp form. Every one was a cracker and no need for sharpening. Just in case this was a fluke batch I pronto ordered another 20 packs......just in case.
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In reply to Post #82
Like ADW sais earlier it was defo JB who passed the original to Rod,the company who made up the liquid was based near Croydon and it worked on the reaction of milk lactones via a dairy connection.
The closest today will either be Kennys supply or JBs Toppex and Milky1
Always remember in life and in fishing nothing lasts forever so if theres something you wish to do,go fish or try do it now........and have no regrets
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BAF Have released one recently. They’ve admitted it’s not the same but close
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In reply to Post #76
Would that drop of something be Diacetyl I wonder?
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In reply to Post #77
Well he already does TM1 which is a very scopex like flavour. Apparently Kenny gates has the original scopex and uses it in his bait range.
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In reply to Post #76
Fair play mate, straight from the horses mouth. I always thought it was pukka salmon that John gave to Rod.
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In reply to Post #74
Shame Rod is still not here
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In reply to Post #76
If that is true, do you think John Baker will bring out the 'original scopex' or do you think there is some business agreement preventing him doing so ?
The other thing is... are those key liquids & drops no longer available to source, even for JB ?
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In reply to Post #66
To be even clearer (and I've mentioned this more than a few times!) it was in fact John Baker who discovered the scopex blend and then passed it over to Hutchy one drunken night at the lakeside. I know this for a fact as me and John had a detailed phone conversation about scopex. He told me that he knew an old chemist who mixed up the formula but it didn't smell like scopex until one drop of a certain liquid (which I don't know) was added and then left over night. It was only then that it would have the very distinctive scopex flavour that we all know and love.
We have John to thank for some of the best flavours that were around including scopex, chocolate malt, monster crab, salmon etc.
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In reply to Post #74
Spot on mate.
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In reply to Post #73
No It wasn't 
RH classics like Scopex, Monster crab, Shellfish Sense Appeal, Pukka Salmon, Chocalate Malt, Mulberry Florentine, Autumn Harvest, etc, etc, these 'changed' over the years due to ingredients no longer available, suppliers changed, EU regulations stopping you use certain things.
Nowadays my choice would be one of John Bakers close flavours like Toppex or Milky1, or Nash's version.
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