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In reply to Post #21
Most of them are fine for fence/deck stains as they're so thin, if you go to the paints (cuprinol garden shades etc) you want something a bit better.
The £45 erbauer one from screwfix ain't bad
Airless ones are a bit of a jump in price, much easier for big volume work tho. Not very cost effective for a diyer but with my sprayer a fence panel takes about 15 seconds 
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Any recomendations for something cheap and cheerful for fences / decking
TIA
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While the airless sprayer has been great, I need something for smaller volumes, I've tried a couple of cheaper options (sealey, plastic wagner) but the finish is a long way short of the quality I get with the airless. It's pretty expensive to run when you need 2l minimum to use it
Is there a budget friendly, portable hvlp kit anyone can recommend rather than having to spend £500 on a graco cordless sprayer?
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#19 25 Feb 2020 at 7.51am | | | |
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The masking can take ages, I'd say I can cut in with a brush twice as fast as I can mask up. The main reason I went with airless over hvlp types like those wagner guns is that a lot more paint goes where you want it, lots of the buying guides talk about wastage through overspray, and it seems the finer the finish, the more wastage, some of the systems mention 50% waste!
Preperation has to be better too, as the roller texture hides a multidude of sins. The firm who introduced me to spraying will put two heavy coats of super leytex or similar then go to town with drywall sanders, keeping halogen lights in the corners to highlight imperfections. Mind you they're doing £1m refurbs so it should be better than most
I mainly use it for priming joinery so there's no difference in prep time really
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#18 23 Feb 2020 at 5.53pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #16
I use women tights for that..not mine by the way  . one thing to remember when spraying is the time taken masking/sheeting up due to over spray. I use Wagner sprayers but only the hand held bottle types on doors and trims.
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#17 23 Feb 2020 at 5.32pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #16
Definitely helps, I learned that and to always use an extension so you can keep the tip in a bucket of water if you stop quite early on, I found cheap sifts better than the paint strainers 
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#16 23 Feb 2020 at 5.23pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #14
Another little tip : Buy some disposable paint strainers (nylon mesh type) from a supplier or from Ebay or Amazon.
They are well worth using as even after stirring your paint well it's worth straining it through before putting it through the gun and will save you getting any blockages and hassles.
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#15 23 Feb 2020 at 5.21pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #14
There's one in Acton and I have a job over that way sonn, I'll try and have a look
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#14 23 Feb 2020 at 5.19pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #10
There's a section on the website with stockists locations.
When i bought paint I just googled "morrells paint suppliers" and i found the nearest stockist was still miles from me, but i ordered online and they sent it out to me by courier.
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#13 23 Feb 2020 at 5.16pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #12
Nothing worse than the famous line, “we’re doing the painting ourselves” 
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#12 23 Feb 2020 at 4.57pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #11
For decorating they're great, and well worth investing in, but I'm a chippy, and it was only after seeing a few nice jobs looking awful after DIY paint jobs I started doing a ready to paint finish for private punters, basically filled, knotted, primed and sanded, basically any muppet should be able to get a good finish, and I don't get that sinking feeling if I go back and see a weeks work that's only had one coat of one coat 
The basic kit with a couple of cheapo gun extensions is all I need
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#11 23 Feb 2020 at 4.43pm | | | |
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I’m with you mate, it’s the future
My mate is a few grand deep and still has a list of ‘essentials’ as long as your arm. The finish and time saved is well worth the expense though, same as anything really... the right tool for the job makes all the difference
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#10 23 Feb 2020 at 4.41pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #7
That's the sort of paint I'm looking for, I had seen that site but couldn't find any price or buying options
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In reply to Post #6
Basic models aren't that much mate, I bought a cheap one used for 100, which paid for itself in the 1st couple of weeks, when that died I got a slightly better one new. Yes it's a lot more than a roller but so much quicker. Well worth it if you want to prime large volumes occasionally, it gives a better surface for the decorators and you don't have to get the brush out for fussier mouldings.
It needs volume to pay for itself tho, priming one rooms worth of skirts architraves would be about the same time after you've cleaned the sprayer vs a disposable roller and brush
If you want an expensive toy check out shaper tools handheld cnc, I was playing with one the other week and can't unsee it shapertoolsuk
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In reply to Post #7
And i just used to use an Earlex airless sprayer which i think cost me about £200.
The finish was ok but if i wanted a really efficient professional finish time after time i would consider investing in professional spraying equipment.
For the smaller jobs you don't save much time over brush/roller because of the set up and cleaning up time.
But you should get a better end result to the finished job.
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