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   Old Thread  #1129 9 Apr 2020 at 5.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Best Post on this thread,nicely done Ken.Keep safe and let's all get through this fit and well 👏👏👏👏👏
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   Old Thread  #1128 9 Apr 2020 at 5.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The issue is a lack of clarity in figures.
Across the media itíll be quoted at 887 dead yesterday in the headlines
Yet only 140 apparently died in the last 24 hours
Thatís leading to either hysteria or rumours of conspiracy
It canít be that hard to collate accurate records?
Theyíre not doing themselves any favours, except keeping people scared enough to stay home or in such a state of disbelief they decide to have a bbq or party
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   Old Thread  #1127 9 Apr 2020 at 4.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Mal,

I'm not sure what the issue is with the daily death numbers that Noj was referring to.
I assume the figures are collected about the same time each day from around the country and then released as the actual deaths that have occurred in that 24 hour period. They are also shown on a graph online as such.
I know a couple of members have questioned the cause of deaths as to whether they were actually down to the virus and that virus deaths lag well behind the initial day of infection, but don't see why that would affect the daily death figures.
Please explain if you can.

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   Old Thread  #1126 9 Apr 2020 at 4.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #1125 9 Apr 2020 at 4.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thatís whatís itís all about. Well said that man

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   Old Thread  #1124 9 Apr 2020 at 3.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Look, we are all anxious, nervous and well on edge during this crisis and tensions and emotions are running high. No one will ever convert the political views of another person by trying to score political points with what are tragic figures. in the most trying times any of us will ever have experienced. Instead of squabbling about the nuances of language and so on get out on your doorstep tonight and give the NHS and many other public servants a rousing cheer.

Tonight I shall cheer the nurses at Royal Cornwall Hospital who have treated and sent home a mate who coped for the virus. Big ups to them

I shall also be cheering for those lovely men from Tesco who delivered our life saving food, to say nothing of 24 pints of beer and 12 bottles of wine. That's a life saver in itself.

I shall also cheer for the refuse collectors who came today as usual and the recycling collectors who also visited. They also serve, God bless 'em.

We have not left the house for over four weeks and cabin fever is setting in but I know that while these brilliant people keep going above and beyond we shall survive and come out the other side smiling and clapping like crazy.

If there was a clapping emoticon I'd smother the rest of this post with 'em. But there isn't so I'll just say a huge thank you to everyone who is helping others get through to the other side. THANK YOU, THANK YOU THANK YOU!
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   Old Thread  #1123 9 Apr 2020 at 3.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's several times you've accused people of abuse. Bit of a pattern forming it seems. That'd have nothing to do with your buddy getting banned for alleged racist abuse would it.
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   Old Thread  #1122 9 Apr 2020 at 3.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Daily figures only show a part of the story and with data collection having variables they're always going to be a mix of recent days / weeks...

You're right that they should be making this clear though.
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   Old Thread  #1121 9 Apr 2020 at 3.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yep , i do think "the grass is greener" , so 20 years ago i bought a run down barn in the south of France for peanuts , in what i think is the best area to fish in Europe ! and since then i have spent up to 9 months of the year renovating it then ! and if it wasn't for missing my family , daughter , nephews and nieces then i would of moved there ,

Can't believe anyone thinks they should not criticize a government that's making a balls up , WHY NOT ! they are accountable to us ,

Criticize the nhs , NO , i criticize those that have had a policy of "managed decline" privatization and asset stripping for over 1 decade , imagine that crazy ideology , wanting to protect something that could save my life , again !

And as for insulting Bojo , your having a laugh , a bit of light hearted banter , against a man who has based his career on insults !
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   Old Thread  #1120 9 Apr 2020 at 3.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Political allegiances aside... 7 or 800 deaths being reported today, the tiniest paragraph on the bbc site says itís actually 140 with the remainder in previous days and weeks. Ffs no wonder people are sceptical
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   Old Thread  #1119 9 Apr 2020 at 3.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you think how I described Johnson - unreliable, lazy and a liar is 'gratuitous abuse', then you should have tried using a big torch during the night at Yately in the late 80s.
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   Old Thread  #1118 9 Apr 2020 at 12.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Jon,

Whether you support a particular party or not, your political bias is certainly left wing, look how you just insulted a Tory prime minister with a string of abuse. If memory serves, I think you see Trump in the same light. You don't believe a country has a right to sovereignty and self rule.

On the other thread, perhaps your posts were not abusive to everyone who disagreed with you, but you see that as a virtue? " I didn't abuse everyone, so that's good."
I apologised for misrepresenting you, are you ever going to apologise for abusing me?

Re the Coudenhove Kalergi plan, I find it extremely offensive too, but you conveniently twisted my question to suggest that I believed it. My question was, why does the EU celebrate it biannually with a Kalergi award to the European politician who has most forwarded the federal plan, with a grand gala celebration?
I also gave you the EU's own list of the most recent recipients, but you weren't up for answering that were you?

I'm well aware of the parameters of free speech and the role of constructive criticism and give it and accept it , but that has nothing in common with gratuitous abuse.

You say you hold elected politicians to account with a balanced, common sense view, but if you did that, you wouldn't hold a political leader to account with a string of abuse, that's not constructive criticism is it?

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   Old Thread  #1117 9 Apr 2020 at 9.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My 'leftist views on Brexit' .. there you go again with your assumptions. I was closer to Ken Clarke than Jeremy Corbyn in my support of remain. I've never had any particular gripe with leave voters, it's those who suggested that no-deal would be good for the country that I took issue with.

My posts were not abusive to everyone who disagreed with me. I called you a lunatic because you posted about there being an EU/Soros funded plan to replace the white British population with brown people. This is dangerous antisemitic xenophobic cobblers that has often been quoted by far right terrorists which I find extremely offensive.

I found your to Patrick Minford bizarre, but it seems that unquestioning allegiance is something you're good at.

Taking a criticism specifically directed at you, and then saying 'look lads, he insults us all' is another thing you're good at.

When the people running the country do something good - Nightingale Hospitals, economic support, etc. Fantastic, sing their praises.

But when they fail ... pull them up on it and they might get better as a result.

Whichever party they may be. Nothing right or left about it. Just holding elected people to account. Doesn't seem anything other than common sense to me.
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   Old Thread  #1116 9 Apr 2020 at 8.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And that illustrates my problem with the figures coming out as Covid19 is a notifiable disease if you have it when you die you go down on the count for that day irrespective of whether it actually contributed to you dying or not.
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   Old Thread  #1115 9 Apr 2020 at 8.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You know what people like you get on my nerves all moaning about this country, ie govt , health service,etc the list goes on and on .

If you think the grass in greener in another country then go and there.
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