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   Old Thread  #2015 28 Apr 2020 at 4.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i never said it would be better under labour. it would most likely be a different kind of major cock up

bit bored of people using that as an excuse for Tory failings to be honest.

and yes all governments have made mistakes.

as for the Chinese not being 100% honest - that's all governments as well really isn't it? it's most definitely ours at the moment.

As I say - they have a chance to do things differently / better. keeping my fingers crossed...
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   Old Thread  #2014 28 Apr 2020 at 4.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Every government except Germany has made mistakes , been caught with there pants down , this government is no exception , would it be any different under labour ?
And would it have been any different if China had been a 100% truthful about the severity of this virus , two fair questions I think .
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   Old Thread  #2013 28 Apr 2020 at 4.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I would never read that paper , in fact i haven't read a newspaper for five weeks and counting .
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   Old Thread  #2012 28 Apr 2020 at 4.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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the people that run the care homes didn't bring the virus in either did they? No point demonising them

The government have really cocked up on this one. Sending covid patients back into environments where the population is massively higher risk... Refusing to take patients from care homes for treatment and leaving them in situations where there might not be any nursing qualified staff. It's all very well giving Captain Tom a medal and a fly past and praising his generation for their spirit and what they did for us in the past - but undermined completely when they are throwing many more from his era on a nasty scrapheap.

Andy Burnham (not someone I've always supported) was excellent on Newsnight last night when he repeated his accurate analysis that the 'Care' sector is treated as a very much second class citizen to the 'Health' sector. He's absolutely right. When care home owners have placed PPE orders (at inflated prices) - which have been accepted - only to be told a few days later that they can't have them because they're being diverted to Hospitals then it's the system that's at fault.

I'm not Boris bashing, but the government planning for this virus has failed us. They have an opportunity to make better decisions now so let's hope they do...
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   Old Thread  #2011 28 Apr 2020 at 4.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
From the financial times ,regarding care home death's

https://www.ft.com/content/0ed8ea34-ebc5-4425-b86a-7a29447de57b?fbclid=IwAR1ZHFeQDRBPpK6DCM9N7RFMBkFNqcrF3G3H4LlW0oAEHgS0F6uhne8QuzM
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   Old Thread  #2010 28 Apr 2020 at 4.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You been reading the Express again , oh dear !
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   Old Thread  #2009 28 Apr 2020 at 4.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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so how did they catch the virus ? The government sure didn't bring it into the homes

In reality, that's pretty much what happened..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/24/care-homes-ordered-take-patients-suspected-coronavirus-nhs-hospitals/
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   Old Thread  #2008 28 Apr 2020 at 4.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thousands dieing in care home's across Europe , care staff ****ed off in several Spanish care home's and left the old people to die ,
In the 2003 heatwave in France 15,000 old people died in care home's ,ok nothing to do with the virus , just a random stat ,
Well the old people in our care home's haven't been out clubbing , pubbing or partying , so how did they catch the virus ? The government sure didn't bring it into the homes , the people that run the private care home companies have a lot to answer for .
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   Old Thread  #2007 28 Apr 2020 at 3.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Tinhead - I was really hoping you would do it all day!


I was sooo tempted. Maybe just once in a while just to remind people that they keep banging on ?
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   Old Thread  #2006 28 Apr 2020 at 3.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sounds like a reasonable plan to me.

Get some furloughed brickies to patch up Hadrians Wall. Kilted checkpoints at the top of the M6 and A1. Job done

At least she's got some kind of plan

Tinhead - I was really hoping you would do it all day!
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   Old Thread  #2005 28 Apr 2020 at 3.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Why do you keep banging on about hindsight? 2000 a week currently dying in care homes and rising. A 2016 UK government readiness drill for a flu like pandemic Exercise Cygnus and 20,000 dead and rising. Forewarned should have been forearmed, no hindsight necessary.
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   Old Thread  #2004 28 Apr 2020 at 3.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Talking of female leaders she's at it again,

Scotland on a different trajectory than the rest of UK, shutdown to be relaxed and I will close borders with England! Masks to be worn on public transport and in shops but its not mandatory and up to the individual.

So no change then just soundbites
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   Old Thread  #2003 28 Apr 2020 at 2.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Plenty of articles about saying how successful women leaders have been in handling the pandemic in a variety of countries. Why is this? Better at finding compromises? More compassionate? Less ego?

Would things have gone better if Theresa May had still been in charge?
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   Old Thread  #2002 28 Apr 2020 at 2.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ha , brilliant , now you are making me laugh .

the comparison is ridiculous , desperate , but sadly predictable , anyway , i am happy to entertain !
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   Old Thread  #2001 28 Apr 2020 at 2.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Please , stop blaming Labour for the WORLDWIDE ECONOMIC CRASH of 2008


But some countries were better prepared! sounds familiar?

Actual I don't blame Labour, things were going quite well until it happened but in hindsight perhaps Labour should've done things a little differently and let some of those banks fail?
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