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Wow this escalated quickly, as for a question the guy asked about buoyancy, yeah the buoyancy are decent. Not overly buoyant that you need big lumps of putty too pin it down.
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In reply to Post #62
They do nowadays.
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In reply to Post #61
Been time since I have seen some golfing but dont remember them having lead attached to ball.
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In reply to Post #58
Just to add my opinion, I hand roll my pop ups and try to get them as round as is possible to help, even if only slightly with aerodynamics.....you don’t see a golfer using an egg shaped ball!
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Christ. Lot of moaning about mis shaped baits. I wouldn’t want to deliver your chicken balls on a Saturday night
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Getting mis shaped baits instead of round is no different to getting sent a different flavour/colour. They will still catch you fish but the long and the short of it is it’s not what you asked for
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In reply to Post #53
I didn’t justify it on just being hand rolled? I said I knew what I was getting wouldn’t be “perfectly round” as that is pretty clear from the description and pictures.
People like UB Baits and various others managed to make a round pop up round so don’t know how Advanced baits haven’t managed it and worse still, send them out to paying customers? If they were advertised as mis shaped pop ups then there would be no arguments and I wouldn’t of bought them as that’s not what I was after
I like them round as I use them for snowman rigs when I use them so like my pop ups as round as possible and was the reason I thought I’d try them out. Hookbaits are very personal and apart from location to me are the next important thing. So if I buy something for a purpose and they are not what I expect/wanted then I’m not gonna use them
Single pop ups I use Specialized Hookbaits sometimes and am quite happy for them to be slightly mis shaped as I knew what I was expecting before I bought them so am happy to use them
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In reply to Post #55
How childish.
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In reply to Post #54
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In reply to Post #53
No dig at you just my opinion on the thread hence a reply to no one in particular, if you want to take it personally that's your prerogative, I couldn't careless and certainly not interested in your baits!
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In reply to Post #52
As that's clearly a dig at me ill reply. Nowhere have I said people have no right to be unhappy about receiving mishapes. My point with boo whom I originally replied was I find it weird to write off a bait solely on it being a bit out of shape. Which I now find even weirder as he's replied he uses specialised hookbaits cc popups too which can be very mishaped and varying sizes, and justifies it by them being hand rolled. So in theory each one is in someone's hands so should be very uniform really. FYI I've got some lovely perfect little popups, I've got some specialised hookbaits cc which are hap hazard. I know which catches me far more fish......
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I wouldn't be happy if buying what I was expecting to be round pop-up's and they turned up misshapen, end of, any argument to this is wrong.
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In reply to Post #50
No need for the aggressive tone now is there, we're all grown adults after all. You stick to doing your thing, I'll stick to doing mine, and I'm sure both our photo albums will continue to grow nicely. 
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In reply to Post #49
Which you’ve made over and over and over again, to the point people are bored hearing it. Get off your high horse. Carp eat there own excrement, as it was said on a podcast last week, it goes without saying they’ll eat anything any shape, doesn’t take a genius to figure it out. But if something has no consistency shape and size wise how will it ever be consistently efficient when attached to a hook? It won’t. It’s pretty simple, some people like myself, won’t settle for it, which is an opinion with regards to the original post.
Wow Fantastic, I’ve rolled hookbaits for the last 15 years too. No one cares though otherwise I’m sure they’d of asked.
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In reply to Post #48
Good to hear chap, glad it goes so well for you. I don't just chuck any old crap out as you mentionbut quality of what something actually is matters to me way more than what it looks like.hence I roll my own as I know what goes into the m exactly, which to me is worth more than how something looks. Not digging at anyone, merely making a point. And I'd kindly ask you to refrain from calling me or anyone else "mush". Thank you
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In reply to Post #47
If that’s a dig at me aswell mush, my photo album over the last 5 years, fishing one night a week would suggest that every little last one percent I make right with my bait and rigs is more than worth the while. for that reason alone, I’m perfectly happy being ultra picky when paying premium rates for a pot of pop ups. And yes, £12 a pot of air ball pop ups is extortionate when they are rolled very very poorly, if your happy chucking any old s*** out like it sounds you are, fair play, but everyone is entitled to expect a certain amount of quality in what they buy, this obviously hasn’t been met for quiet a few people now the more digging you do.
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In reply to Post #42
Bit dramatic chap, I'm not "shooting anyone down", I just find it very strange that people are so concerned about their bait not being perfectly round. Do people really think the carp mind? Or that their perfectly balanced neat little rig with there perfectly spherical hookbait acts the same way out in the lake with currents, fish movement etc etc, as it does in their 6 inch deep test tank or margin?
As for you steak analogy, its actually quite a good one. For me, I like mine done medium, but I'll eat it from rare right through to well done, as long as its a good bit of steak. Because to me the quality of that steak is the most important bit. You see if the steak is poor quality then it doesn't matter how you cook it, it will still be poor quality, but a good but of steak is delicious even if its not cooked just how you prefer it
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In reply to Post #43
I’m glad that Ryan took over UB baits and I could revert to my usual cork balls and wafters
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In reply to Post #38
Cheers chewbakka
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In reply to Post #43
My advice is keep on fishing Top Bomber!!
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Looking at this thread my advice would be stick to ub baits. Definitely the best at sensible prices 👍🏻
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In reply to Post #40
I must have 15-20 pots of various things from Mark and you are correct, his crushed corks aren’t uniform in size and are a little bit mis shaped as they are hand rolled. I knew from the pics and the description that what I would be getting wouldn’t be like you’d expect from a pot of round air balls. I was happy with this and have caught fish on these
The main point you seem to be glossing over is the fact that the baits a few people seem to of received now are not what they were expecting and in general poorly rolled (again could very well be the best hookbait ever). You seem to just dismiss the fact that they are poorly rolled as if it’s nothing and are shooting people down for daring to question something that they have paid for and has fallen short of expectations
Another analogy that you will probably say is pedantic and irrelevant 🙄 if you ordered a steak and it was over/undercooked to what you wanted would you just eat it as it don’t really matter as food is food? And if you went to ask them to change the steak their t’s and C’s say no returns so tough basically. Would you eat in that restaurant again?
Like I’ve said from the beginning, ordered some pots of round hookbaits, they are poorly rolled and I won’t be using them again and sticking to other hookbait makers. That’s it, not trying to ruin the blokes business not telling anyone to avoid the company, not saying the baits are rubbish amd won’t catch fish etc
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In reply to Post #35
Agreed. As you say everyone is entitled to their opinion, unfortunately some like to over play their opinion.
Hey ho makes the world go round.
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The best hookbaits I've ever bought, by a long way, are specialised hookbaits gpb1 crushed corks. Nowhere near round, or even a uniform size, and the fish definitely don't seem to mind.. Seems like many over think things waaaay too much
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In reply to Post #29
I agree, personally I wouldn't buy "hydrolised" pop ups off someone that cannot spell hydrolysed but maybe that's just me.
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In reply to Post #36
I found them really really good, bouyancy wise, they held there position in tests pretty much identical to the night before in fact over 36 hours they looked the same. I think due to the glugging they have taken on pretty much all the liquid they will take on and therefore keep the bouyancy they go into the water with. i would say that once glugged they can become quite crumbly to pierce and you need to use a fine needle or risk cracking them. Ive not cought on them yet but i know a lot who have and i dolike the amino monster concept of powder and glug, although i know thats not unique i do find the brand honest and good value . i dont worry too much about the shapes of the hookbaits and consider them good value / product really and the fish ive seen caught on them this year is pretty impressive.
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In reply to Post #11
same here bought a couple of pots arrived the other day, the hydro pineapple some should have gone in the bin,not happy at all ,after being a long term baitroom customer, first impresions not good,il try them out soon ,just glad ive got lots of mitchs left.
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Is anyone able to tell me what the buoyancy is like on these lads?
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In reply to Post #33
Everyone is entitled to their opinions and we will always have people that will not agree with you but that’s fine and would make the world a boring place if we all agreed on everything
I’m not trying to knock/slag off the company as the actual bait itself could very well be a really top shelf, nothing compares hookbait. But bait, more so hookbait choice is so personal to everyone and everyone is different in what they would be happy to use
On this occasion I wasn’t to happy with the baits, looks wise at least. As for me I like a round pop up if I’m buying round pop ups. I’m not saying they have to be perfectly spherical with no imperfections but a good percentage of them looked like wheels with 2 flat sides and a curved top and bottom, again this might be fine for some people but it wasn’t what I was after.
I tried rolling my own pop ups before and it was a disaster most of them turn out like wheels which I found out to be the sausage being to big for the diameter of the bait you want (if I remember rightly) I decided there and then it just wasn’t worth the agg of trying to make my own
Like I’ve said previously I’m a sucker for a pot of hookbaits and when I had a sort out of my garage last week I had 100 pots 🙈🙈
Some of the bait I received yesterday reminded me of my pop ups I tried to make. My point wasn’t about the actual bait itself as I’ve not used it so could very well be the best hookbait ever, but I never ordered mis shaped baits I ordered round ones
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In reply to Post #29
100% agree with this.
Re post 26 Frenzy;
Disagree with it being easier to make your own and roll by hand though, it takes a lot of hard work to get a top level hookbait perfected and repeatable.
I sympathize with Boo and think he is ok having a moan, if you are not fully confident in your bait then why use it?
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In reply to Post #32
Boo...I also agree with you. I think most would (ip100 aside, who is making himself look stupid)
I too have had some baits off of Advanced (I fell for the flashy FB advertising) and I was shocked just how poor the quality of the baits were. Like you say, none of them are round (which IMO DORES matter) and they actually resembled poorly home rolled baits. I was so disappointed with them that they went straight in the bin and I vowed there and then to stick to making my own.
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In reply to Post #30
Thinking mainline basemix what additives goes well this that mix if you ever used it
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In reply to Post #29
i tend to also agree.
if your paying for something advertised, then you should receive that product regardless of you "might" have a wonder product the "might" work 
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In reply to Post #28
just roll them by hand mate...
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In reply to Post #23
I actually agree with boo. I’m sorry but if your a bait company that can’t control the quality of the shape of your baits, which less face it really isn’t difficult, (and that comes from experience) I’d be more worried about what other bits don’t get the same attention to detail.
With regards to mis shaped HOOK baits, put one in the water next to a perfectly round one and see how the round one will spin and not settle in a certain spot, and how the mis shaped one will always have a more buoyant bit that wants to touch the surface, tie that on a delicate rig, see how it’ll sit crooked, I’ve tested it to destruction. Your hookbait is the most vital part of your rig, it should have 100% confidence behind it, it should be exactly how you want it and if your buying, should be how you expect it to be.
Im in the same boat funnily enough, and they are being sent back, he’s a nice enough bloke and seems happy to sort it out, unfortunately for me it’s once bitten twice shy, I won’t be using them again.
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In reply to Post #27
I agree but i do need more practice. Got rollibg tables and station from a dear friend of mine. Guna give it aho before christnas now if i get a chance
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In reply to Post #26
make your own baits, so much easier and you can control everything, add to that, its a dam sight cheaper and better.
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In reply to Post #24
I've explained how you are being pedantic, and your car analogy is even worse than your 10kg of dumbells one!
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How am I being pedantic? Yes there’s no doubt mis shaped baits will work, never said they wouldn’t? All I’m saying is they are not what I wanted, is that so hard to understand? They don’t take returns apparently so that’s why I’ll be moving them on
To put another spin on it. You order a new car and want it in black but you get a dark grey (would say red but no doubt you’d say “well that’s completely different” like with the 10mm 24mm point I was trying to make) now this new dark grey car you’ve got is nearly the black you wanted but not quite what you was after. You’d obviously keep the car because it will still do the job of the black car
I don’t get how you don’t think I’ve got a point 🤷🏻♂️
This will be my last on this as obviously I’m in the wrong for expecting something I ordered and I should just be so grateful I got something.
End of the day they were an impulse buy that were on offer, not a great deal of money. No doubt they are good baits and catch fish but they aren’t for me so won’t be using them again. Like I said other people might be happy with them and good luck to them. Not the end of the world and life goes on
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In reply to Post #22
Try to justify if however you want but you are being pedantic. I take it you have returned them if they are that bad? After all, if they aren't what you deemed you paid for then you are within your rights, no? How about putting up some pictures of these so us that have never seen them can see just how mishaped they are(not that it matters)? It really does seem backwards thinking to right off a hookbait merely because it's a bit mis shaped. It could actually work in your favour, after all the vast majority of people use perfectly round baits...
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In reply to Post #21
Never said it has to be perfectly round, but if I want to use/buy a round pop up then that’s what I want to do. Not oval shaped, not cube shaped, not dumbell shaped. If other people are fine with buying/using mi-shaped baits then that’s perfectly fine. There maybe nothing wrong with the baits as they are but they aren’t for me as they are not what I wanted/ordered
But if someone is selling round baits then surly the least you’d expect to receive is round baits or shall we all just be happy to get what we are given
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In reply to Post #20
Firstly I dont order bait, I make it. You are being pedantic. For loose feed using a stick for instance then you want uniform shapes for accuracy. But you weren't saying that, you were saying for hookbaits. Which as they are attached to a hook, generally go wherever you cast the rig it's attached to. So yes, bait shape is irrelevant. You're basically saying you don't care if the bait is the best bait around, if it's not perfectly round you won't use it. Which is daft.
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In reply to Post #19
How is the shape irrelevant? My point was that I ordered round baits and that’s what I’d expect to receive or are my expectations to high these days?
Ok so you ordered 10kg of 18mm round boiles and got sent 10kg of 18mm dumbells and that would be fine as shape is irrelevant
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In reply to Post #17
So are they over twice the size that you ordered? Or are you just being daft? The shape of a bait is irrelevant. Your point makes absolutely no sense at all.
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In reply to Post #17
Well said.
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In reply to Post #16
How is it odd? I ordered something and didn’t get what i ordered 🤷🏻♂️
If you ordered some 10mm pop ups and got sent some 24mm ones you would be fine with that as they could be the best pop ups in the world?
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In reply to Post #15
How odd
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In reply to Post #14
Yeah pretty much
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In reply to Post #13
So they could be the most effective, best hookbaits that youv ever owned but you will never know because they aren't perfectly round? 
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In reply to Post #12
Not checked the buoyancy and not planning to as won’t be using them. I know the carp probably won’t mind but I do. It wasn’t what I ordered or expected for a round hookbait.
If I wanted 6 pots of mis-shaped pop ups I’d of rolled them myself as I’m pretty good at that 😂😂
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In reply to Post #11
How is the buoyancy mate?
I dont think the carp care if they're round.
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Just received my first order from these and it will be my last 😂 the quality of them (rolling wise) is very poor in the 6 pots I’ve got with a good amount of them not very round and quite a few that more resemble wheels than round pop ups. The amount in each pot varies quite a lot too so had a count up (sad I know) and my pots range from 31-41 baits per tub. Not that I’d expect anyone to count out each single bait (I know some do) but surely if all the pots and baits are the same size then the amount in each pot should be roughly the same?
Was an impulse buy as they popped up on my Facebook and I’m a sucker for a pot of hookbaits. I did like the sound/look of them but they will be going on Ebay and I’ll be sticking to my perfectly round UB Baits hookbaits from now on and try not be tempted by anyone else’s pots of hookbaits 😂😂
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Mine have always been spot on wac. As for lids I had a pot leak but just received a couple more pots in post and they have changed there pots. Alot better now.
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In reply to Post #6
Yep I found that ,Pop ups not the best as I would rather use Cork balls . Wafter decent . Beware their tubs leak 😔
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In reply to Post #7
The yellow pineapples
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Which ones you using mate mine have always came back the way they go in apart from you use the bosters.
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In reply to Post #5
They lose their colour quite dramatically is the only thing I would say is a negative
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There new website went live,
https://advancedhookbaits.co.uk/
Look forward to trying some more of the range.
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I've been using them for some time now. Caught alot of fish on my syndicate with them. One fish inpaticular 5 times in 2 seasons. My personal faivorates are the dark fruits, hydro pinaple & rs1.
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In reply to Post #2
Any update?
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In reply to Post #1
I have just recently purchased some, rs1 dumbells and hydrolised pineapple. Haven't had a chance to use them yet. Baits look and smell good. Purchase and delivery process all fine. I'm keen to get some more.
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Evening , anyone any experience of these hookbaits ? Look decent to me
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