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   Big fish rigs... is there such a thing?
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   Old Thread  #15 19 Apr 2019 at 11.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Spot on Yonny.
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   Old Thread  #14 19 Apr 2019 at 12.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Precisely this.

Almost any rig will catch the bigger fish so long as you focus on the anti eject aspects.
The more 'industrial' the rig is may help avoiding smaller fish yet will still be picked up by the bigger fish.
The hsr is an obvious example, but i also like the reverse combi with 3-4" of curved sbf at the hook end.
Think of everything is getting sucked in, but just make it difficult to eject
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   Old Thread  #13 17 Apr 2019 at 3.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have experienced pretty much the same.

On a runs water I fished a pop up about two inches off the bottom and bottom bait with a piece of corn on next to it. Both on the same area with a scattering of boilies over them.

In 8 hours I had 11 fish off the bottom bait up to 15lb (mainly high singles). Pop up rig had two with one being 15ln and the other 19lb.
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   Old Thread  #12 16 Apr 2019 at 4.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Like it.
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   Old Thread  #11 16 Apr 2019 at 7.34am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you look at a pop-up rig that is 1 or 2 inches above the lakebed from above could you tell it is a pop-up unless it is waving in the water flow?

I don't think bigger than average carp can, whereas a smaller carp might be able to identify it.

I did find on one water being different from other anglers helped, whereas I was using sliding snowman set-ups compared to their standard hair rigs. I don't think I caught anymore bigger fish than other anglers, although I did catch more fish in total including a few 30's, some of which were not regular bank visitors.

You wouldn't believe the rig I caught my largest ever tench on, a bit blatant in your face, quite a big pop-up fished with an olivetter counterweight directly under the hook eye.

I say all that, then I think location of big fish is more important than rigs. Sometimes, I think certain carp have their own particular area which they tend to come out from.
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   Old Thread  #10 15 Apr 2019 at 10.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree, interesting. I'll happily use short zigs but over a baited area is a new one to me. Sounds like it worked too
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   Old Thread  #9 15 Apr 2019 at 10.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It was a bit of a last gasp attempt a while back, as i was watching bigger fish show over a spot for days but kept picking up little ones within about 2 hours of changing the set up i had two high 30s on the bank.
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   Old Thread  #8 15 Apr 2019 at 10.18am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Now that is an interesting approach and theory.
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   Old Thread  #7 15 Apr 2019 at 10.05am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Fishing a pop up high 1-2ft over a big bed of bait has sorted out some bigger fish for me on a few trips, theory being that as the little us and other species are getting there heads down the older more wary fish hang slightly up in the water column picking up feed as its disturbed by the smaller fish. Worked on a couple of seperate occasions on different waters
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   Old Thread  #6 15 Apr 2019 at 8.11am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
You will catch smalluns on 'big fish rigs' and bigguns on tiny hooks/rigs, it's a fact, but imo big blatant pop up rigs (hinges, chods, etc) will increase your average weight over a season.

I fished one water with a close pal for three years. I used hinges exclusively, he liked his wafter rigs. We caught similar numbers of fish but my average weights were significantly bigger every year. I fished another water with him for 2 years and it was the same there.

I just think big blatant pop up rigs are too in-your-face for the small carp while the real bigguns don't even clock it's off the deck. Like I said, you will catch little carp on them, no doubt, but over the course of a season it makes a difference imo. If I'm fishing for a biggun and I know there's smaller fish present I'll always go in with a silly blatant hinge, like 3 inches off the deck. As long as you put it in the right place it normally works. Helps avoid tench etc too.
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   Old Thread  #5 15 Apr 2019 at 8.04am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There isnt a rig that will catch you big fish, but there are rigs (hsr is a good example) that will help you catch fewer smaller fish
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   Old Thread  #4 15 Apr 2019 at 7.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Stickle back on size 12 hooks with 2 maggots roach on size 4 with double 20mm carp to 30 pike to 20 on on size 8.

I think the all important part are the rig mechanics working for or against you.
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   Old Thread  #3 14 Apr 2019 at 8.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Both my pb's have come on the kd rig with big hooks and large hookbaits. I think the extra seperation gives bigger mouths an added problem.
It's a rig I always go back to when targeting bigger fish.
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   Old Thread  #2 14 Apr 2019 at 8.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I personally think the so called big fish rig is a myth.
I've caught 5lbers up to over 40lbers using the same 8" merlin knotless knot rig.
If a rig works, it will catch.
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   Old Thread  #1 14 Apr 2019 at 5.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I've was going through some old fish captures and notes and looking at the rigs used. I know some people refer to rigs like the hinge stiff as a 'big fish rig' but do you guys think this is a myth?

My two biggest fish fell to a combi rig which I use for 90% of fishing where I can for bottom / balanced baits and a quite crude stiff rig I used to good effect quite a few years ago. Also none of my 'big' fish (25lb+) on the list fell to pop up rigs interestingly.

Do you have a go to big fish rig?
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