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   Dropping the lead when using a helicopter rig
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   Old Thread  #27 28 Mar 2019 at 8.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm well aware lol. I'm just saying the restriction on lead use has nowt to do with fishing. Its due to the RoHs and REACH directives that have been evolving for many years. I work with that stuff.
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   Old Thread  #26 28 Mar 2019 at 6.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I suggest you look into just how toxic lead is. It's there for all to see.
Maybe one day those fish you caught 'dropping the lead' won't be there for the next generation to catch.
We all have, as anglers, the responsibity to look after these beautiful creatures.
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   Old Thread  #25 28 Mar 2019 at 5.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You don't think? If not it's only because the people wanting it banned don't realise what some anglers are doing I reckon. Ask any non angler if lead being dropped into a lake is OK, I'd make a bet that at least 99% would say no.
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   Old Thread  #24 28 Mar 2019 at 4.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nah, dropping the lead has little to no impact on the restrictions covering use of lead bud. It's being banned as a substance used in all manufacturing. It's inevitable, but not impacted by anglers dropping leads.
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   Old Thread  #23 28 Mar 2019 at 4.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And increasing lead sales. Watched a Korda youtube film the other week (not seen many) and the angler appeared disappointed that the lead hadn't been ejected - but he'd landed the fish relatively easily & there was no weed on the line - what's all that about?
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   Old Thread  #22 28 Mar 2019 at 9.51am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Problem with that is you don't know you are going to land the fish for sure, so there's the issue! People have been landing carp for many many years before this dropping the lead fad came along, all its achieving is making leads more likely to be banned
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   Old Thread  #21 28 Mar 2019 at 9.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
But if you can, all things being equal, land the fish by dropping the lead what's the issue....l hear all this environmental stuff so I assume you all drive electric cars because if you don't you are doing far worse to the environment than losing a few leads.
I do think there is a market for non lead weights for when we expect to drop the weight...a thought for the tackle companies.
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   Old Thread  #20 28 Mar 2019 at 8.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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This should be the 11th commandment.
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   Old Thread  #19 28 Mar 2019 at 7.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Exactly this.
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   Old Thread  #18 28 Mar 2019 at 6.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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'I understand the risk & environmental impact of dropping the lead but I'm prepared to do it in order to land a fish' - that's what we seem to hear a lot of these days.

It's dressed up as fish welfare but if you don't put the fish in that situation in the first place then there's no weflare to be concerned about. If you don't think you can safely land a fish from a swim due to weed etc then don't fish it, it's that simple.
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   Old Thread  #17 28 Mar 2019 at 6.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Dropping a lead at all is putting your own success before the environment. Doing it with a set up you admit yourself is mechanically flawed in that situation is even worse
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   Old Thread  #16 27 Mar 2019 at 9.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And that's where it makes the rig more dangerous than a Leadclip and tube setup. Naked it's on par with it, but with a leader you Must have a lead to ditch the leader. That leader makes the whole setup much more dangerous imo
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   Old Thread  #15 27 Mar 2019 at 8.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sometimes a leadless type leader but for chods it is most likely leadcore
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   Old Thread  #14 27 Mar 2019 at 5.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And would you be using the chod as a naked setup, or with leadcore or similar?
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   Old Thread  #13 27 Mar 2019 at 3.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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For me it depends on the depth of the weed, I would happily fish over a foot of heavy weed with a chod set up well up the line, but only if I could drop the lead. I wouldn't do it over 4 foot of weed though....hope you understand what I'm getting at.
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