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   Old Thread  #48 15 Mar 2019 at 11.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I have a compact size Trakker ELS for one/two nights and a standard size ELS for anything longer they have been by far the best beds I have ever owned, not the lightest bed even in the compact but weight over comfort is something I wouldn't sacrifice especially as I'm getting older, coupled with the Trakker layers 2 to 4 season bag I have which under the 4 season layer is the warmest I have been in any bag I've owned during the Winter never once woke up cold/feeling cold, my feet are the biggest problem I have always changed socks for bed but once there cold I'm done even hot water bottles in the past have never helped last winter or this one I haven't even had a need to get the hot water bottle out.

I had the SS3 when it first launched prior to the shroud being developed when it had the mesh webbing under the mattress, first cold night was the last time I used it and it wasn't even Winter just a cold draft blowing in the door I felt like I was in a sky diving simulator then Nash put out the shroud and wanted the punters to pay the price for it for one of their extensively trialed products
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   Old Thread  #47 15 Mar 2019 at 11.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Haha....I was probably lying on my SS4. Thinking F##k me this is bloody uncomfortable. It sags like my nanna's tits, draftier than windy castle & gives me back ache trying to manoeuvre the bloody thing. ...now where's the dog sh1t emoji.
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   Old Thread  #46 14 Mar 2019 at 7.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Exactly what I have, Best combination Iíve found
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   Old Thread  #45 14 Mar 2019 at 3.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís alright you saying that now. But where were you three years ago when I bought the poxy thing.

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   Old Thread  #44 14 Mar 2019 at 2.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Trakker ELS, Inflatable Mat, & a good sleeping bag

Those Nash Sleep Systems are garbage!
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   Old Thread  #43 14 Mar 2019 at 7.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And how is the sleeping bag in the fox flatliter ? Do you do winter nights with it ?
I've been doing some research and the avid is at least £70 more than the fox flatliner . But to be honest that's not much of a concern when spending 250 / £300 anyway.

What makes you say that the avid wouldn't be as warm as the fox?
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   Old Thread  #42 13 Mar 2019 at 8.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I use a fox flatliter mk2 and highly rate it , as do everybody else I know who owns one .

I do like the look of the new avid sleep systems and would like to try one of those . Iím donít think the sleeping bag would be as warm as the fox one though
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   Old Thread  #41 13 Mar 2019 at 1.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No need when you have the right gear, plus bivvy heaters can be death traps
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   Old Thread  #40 13 Mar 2019 at 12.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Never needed one. Decent clothes and sleeping bad is more than enough.
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   Old Thread  #39 13 Mar 2019 at 11.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is there any need for a bivvy heater When using a decent bedchair sleeping system like the avid ?
Until now all my night fishing has been done mostly in the summer months , but there's so much good fishing to do all year !!
It seems a shame not to take advantage of it ....
So do you think I would need a bivvy heater along with a the sleeping system ..
I'm not sure there's much point as I'm sure bavy's leak heat like a sieve !!!
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   Old Thread  #38 13 Mar 2019 at 11.24am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ive got the avid memory foam one and its very comfy - legs are a pain in the ass though, shame no locking mechanism on them to stop them flopping about when setting it up/taking it down but once up lovely.

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   Old Thread  #37 13 Mar 2019 at 9.25am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Take your pjís and a teddy bear to the big one and bed down for the day.
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   Old Thread  #36 13 Mar 2019 at 8.15am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cheers for the recap .
That's exactly what I'm going to do !!
Lol DON my pj's and go and try them out
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   Old Thread  #35 13 Mar 2019 at 7.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Mine is the standard width one. I've used a wide it before and didn't find it comfortable tbh. As for those saying it's not warm at all, I don't get it. Plenty warm enough imo
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   Old Thread  #34 13 Mar 2019 at 7.54am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Had the SS3 then a SS4, through a friend in the trade, were good but not perfect. A mate had a Flatliner, which I tried, then sold my SS4 that week for the Fox.

The Fox was far more comfortable, for me, anyway.

Its lasted well, and by the end of the year Ill buy a new one. Ive got my eye on the new Solar after mates have raved about it ( just the bedchair, not the sleep system ) If the SOlar doesn't suit me, Ill happily buy another Fox Flatliner kingsize, a lovely nights sleep.
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   Old Thread  #33 13 Mar 2019 at 7.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fox flatlighter
Solar SP
Avid benchmark if you want memory foam
Trakker ELS

Now all you need to do is go to a big tackle shop and try them all out.
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   Old Thread  #32 13 Mar 2019 at 7.38am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Lol so Nash it is not then !!
Thanks for the opinions lads even though that are only like you say opinions but some good advice can go a long way ..!

So if I had to narrow it down what would you recommend ( To recap ) ps NO NASH trash lol
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   Old Thread  #31 13 Mar 2019 at 7.03am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Most comfortable bedchair

Is there such a thing, Ive had quite a few trying to find one!

Still following the old designs like sheep. Make a proper mattress ffs, folds into two or something on a frame with adjustable legs.

I used to work shifts for a lot of years and If i was not at work I was sleeping on the bank, or a least trying to, absolutely shattered, **** bedchairs
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   Old Thread  #30 13 Mar 2019 at 6.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just another opinion, I think itís fine, and have used a memory form mattress at home for ten years.
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   Old Thread  #29 13 Mar 2019 at 6.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nope, mine was the wideboy and hated it. Uncomfortable and not warm. The only other bedchair that was more uncomfortable was a JRC Stealth
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   Old Thread  #28 12 Mar 2019 at 6.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I have the SS3 ,5 season wideboy and love it , I fish 12 months a year and find it very warm and supremely comfatable


May its because mine is a wideboy and not a standard , I also have the under mattress shroud , but as mentioned everyone is different
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   Old Thread  #27 12 Mar 2019 at 4.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I will do the same thing as I also the helium 3.8 I have used it on top of the benchmark over the winter and it was lovely.
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   Old Thread  #26 12 Mar 2019 at 3.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Avoid memory foam in summer it's too warm.
I take mine off and put a helium 3.8 on for the summer few weeks.
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   Old Thread  #25 12 Mar 2019 at 3.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
As Gerry has said Ö All about opinions

Ive tried a few and the best Ive had is a Cyprinus Memory Foam Ö. Thing is a dream to me

Had a mate borrow it and he nearly melted saying it was to hot

Youll find what works for you only after doing a couple of nights in it
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   Old Thread  #24 12 Mar 2019 at 12.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The Avid Benchmark XL is the most comfortable one I've tried. I didn't think much to the Nash one.

The matress on the Benchmark is the closest thing to a bed. You just sink into it. Very comfy.

I got the sleep system and very happy with it. It's bloody heavy but I'd rather get a good nights kip!
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   Old Thread  #23 12 Mar 2019 at 12.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally agree, hated it with a passion. The Flatliter Mk2 is streets ahead in every department for me
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   Old Thread  #22 12 Mar 2019 at 11.53am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is that the latest ss3 youíre talking about Gerry. I had one was the worst , had to end early a 48 hour sesh because I could lay on the piece of ***** for more than 20 minutes. Destroyed my back. Couldnít get rid quick enough
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   Old Thread  #21 12 Mar 2019 at 11.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
OPINIONS ARE LIKE BUMS we all have one

and I have had a few Nash Indulgence beds they were ok in their time
but then I bought a SS3 Sleep system beyond any shadow of a doubt the WORST bed I have ever owned by a country mile

owned and used pretty much all the different makes of beds over the years currently using a Trakker Levelite ELS Bed and hand on heart best bed I have ever used

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   Old Thread  #20 12 Mar 2019 at 11.34am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I See a memory foam mattress topper for week long trips pure luxury
For a cpl of nights I use the self inflating mat like Gerry
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Had my nash ss4 for just a few weeks before selling it. Worst bed i have ever owned left me crippled had to get help packing up and go home after 1 night of a 3 night trip the last time i used it .had a levelite els for years it sorted the back problem out but its not that comfy now i have put weight on its been a good bedchair otherwise .Got the new solar one on recommendations so will see how that goes as not used it yet.
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   Old Thread  #18 12 Mar 2019 at 10.18am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Interestly a bloke on our syndicate was complaining about his Nash sleep system saying it just wasnít warm.
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   Old Thread  #17 12 Mar 2019 at 9.32am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Which version was this?
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   Old Thread  #16 12 Mar 2019 at 9.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nope, I rated my ss3 so much I've recently replaced it with another one
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Ok where do I start.

Itís saggy. So bad that I had to remove the elastics and paracord it just to make it useable and even now itís still poor.

The padding around the frame is so thin that the metal digs into your arms if you turn over.

The actual bag just isnít warm. Itís nothing like good enough. I know Iím not a young man anymore but with this bag I have to use it with a thermal cover or I will be cold. In fact the bag is so rubbish that for the odd winter night I do now Iíve ditched it altogether and gone back to my old aqua bag which is sooo much warmer.

Also I often get a cold back as the matress just isnít think enough when using the sleep system so the cold from underneath comes up.

Just a poorly designed product. Iím no real fan of fox gear but wurzel74 has the flatlighter and its streets ahead of mine. One of the lads bought the new solar bed at NAS and we set it up on the stand. Man that thing was comfortable. I could have set it up in the stock room and slept like a baby.
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   Old Thread  #14 12 Mar 2019 at 8.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Does anyone else agree with steering clear from Nash ???
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avid benchmark memory foam bedchair very comfortable.
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   Old Thread  #12 12 Mar 2019 at 8.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Why do you hate the Nash sleep system so much Wayne?
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I absolutely hate my nash sleep system. Was talking to a couple of mates at the weekend about it and I came to the conclusion that in 25 years of buying dedicated carp tackle , it ranks up there as one of the worst purchases Iíve ever made. Never again.

Take a look at the new solar bed and also the fox flat lighter. For my personal taste they were so much better than my crappy gash bed.

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Mine is a 4 leg in the middle and then one leg at the top and one night at the bottom there is only elastic at the top and bottom in the middle ( where my back is ) it is canvas directly around the metal tubes !
To be honest it's a Caperlan and and the time I didn't want to buy an expensive one as I wasn't doing too much night fishing but now I would like to have something more comfortable to encourage me to get out more !

How do you go about testing one and you really only can sit or lie in it for a few minutes at the shop it's not as if you can try one for a night .

Or failing that just go full commando in the shop and get to grips with it LOL
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   Old Thread  #9 12 Mar 2019 at 6.30am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They are ok but if your frame is poorly designed (doesnít lay flat) a mat wonít help you. Iíve used one for decades but as Iíve aged it just wasnít enough when doing anything more than a night.

A thermarest is great and I preferred mine on the ground than on a bedchair.

Iíve not bothered using mine since Iíve had an avid bedchair.
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Comfort is a personal thing like Wayne said. Lots recommend the Trakker, I hated mine and sold it , got a Cyprinus memory foam and love it.
I would say if possible have a good long lie down on one.
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yes this one it can stay on your bed all the time =LINKY POO
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   Old Thread  #6 11 Mar 2019 at 10.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Keep away from cheep beds wychwood ,cyprinus so hard uncompfortable Trakker fox are good
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Can you recommend any certain brands, thinking about getting one after reading this.

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Before buying a new bedchair, try replacing any elastic with 9mm paracord/rope. Less than £10 will do more than one bedchair with ease, and will turn a sagging old bedchair into a new one almost! First thing I do with any bedchair I purchase now if it is fitted with elastics. Makes that much of a difference.
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   Old Thread  #3 11 Mar 2019 at 8.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Buy a self inflating mat (SIM)

the type that backpackers use it will be a lot cheaper than a new bed and transform the comfort

this video will explain it better than I can CLICK HERE

EDIT
As we are not laying on the ground and we will be using on top of a bed we DONT need it to be too thick or inflated too much
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My comfortable may not be your comfortable or anybody else's......You really need to try before you buy and i mean more than sitting or lying on one for 2 minutes......
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Hi I'm looking for a new bedchair as mine is horribly uncomfortable . I was thinking of a Nash indulgence mk4 wide .
Looking for something wide nothing under 90 cm.
200£ to 300£
Ideas ????
Looking for something mega comfortable
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