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henrtopcarper
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   Old Thread  #988 22 Jun 2026 at 8.01pm  0  Login    Register
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Oh and with regard to the Isle of Man, I can’t even watch that stuff, it’s too frightening and when I see a crash I feel sick, that’s why the likes of VR and the elite would never take it on, not at full speed anyway. Any road racing takes a special kind of loon, take Hicky for example, they don’t need to do it but I suppose it’s like someone who needs their next fix. I used to ride bikes and probably quite often took risks I shouldn’t have but that was every now and then and not at the speeds these guys do (although 175mph on my Blackbird in France a few years ago was fun, not that I’d fancy it going wrong😜) and they’re doing it every week, no matter how safe it gets, it’s NEVER safe!
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   Old Thread  #987 22 Jun 2026 at 7.49pm  0  Login    Register
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I have to say you’re dead right there, these machines are mental, and the riders even more mental, like you say 300bhp on a bike that light is crazy and it takes a special sort of rider to handle them ( although like I say the 500’s were pretty mad as well ) we’ll never know what the likes of Ago or even BS would have been like on these bikes as they’ve evolved so much, but I do think that once a motorbike racer always a motorbike racer and then it comes down to the finer skills which MM has more than anyone else, I mean it was probably him that got the lean angle to where it is now, elbow down, shoulder down even! How is that possible?!!! I think with the reduction in engine size and rider aids then it might be more of a level playing field but who knows, the manufacturers will always find a way to go faster and if they’ve got a Marquez or even a Martin on the bike then we’re all in for a treat, I have to be honest I didn’t watch it at all last year as it became a predictable bore fest but this year it’s become a lot more watchable, watching PA sort of reminds me of when Stoner was on the Honda and crashed a lot, then he went to Ducati and everything changed, maybe it’ll happen for Acosta as well, I can’t see MM going on for too much longer though, one more big crash and I think he needs to think seriously about his health, he can’t keep bouncing back (literally) he’s lucky he lives in Spain or he would have to do a Barry Sheene and move to a warmer country what with all his injuries, I reckon he’ll need more ops and lots of physio, even when he retires, either that or he’s not human!
scozza
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   Old Thread  #986 22 Jun 2026 at 6.50pm  0  Login    Register
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Great post Henry. I was a Rossi fan and hated MM at the time, used to think he was ruthless and dangerous but he is so calculated. Nobody will ever win the fans over like Rossi, he was a character and entertainer and you could argue, or I would who was the best between them because I don’t think many come that close!

MM is certainly showing his experience now, there ain’t many who can do what he can on a motorcycle, or have the bottle like he does, and after all the operations and crashes. As Rossi said, he is the devil on a motorcycle lol

This is why I don’t think you can compare the older guys, they were good at what they did in their era but Ago wasn’t riding a near 300bhp monster at 240mph and sliding it into corners at 160mph, not saying he couldn’t but you have to have some proper minerals

Incredible sport and a different level of lunatic to ride those things

Not to mention Dunlop and co. 200mph over the mountain, insane
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   Old Thread  #985 22 Jun 2026 at 6.38pm  0  Login    Register
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Hello Chris, whether people are in the VR camp or MM camp regarding the goat I think they all tend to forget what Valentino did for Moto GP. When I went to Catalunya in 2006 and again to Valencia in 2008, bearing in mind both Spanish circuits, I would say the overwhelming support was still for Valentino, and the concessions were probably a minimum of 60% VR with the rest divided amongst all the other riders, he was a marketing genius but not only that it was his shenanigans at the end of, albeit a winning race that made the sport ever more popular, like unfurling the long banner for his 100th win or signing a new ‘contract’ at a desk, they were what people loved to see, Lorenzo had a go with his guitar antics at (I think) Catalunya I’m not sure, but he was never really that kind of character, also VR probably should have won in 2006, he had more wins than NH ( who no one would begrudge a world championship, RIP Nicky😢 ) but Hayden was just consistent scoring a lot of podium places. I do think a lot of people tend to forget they owe a lot (especially in terms of earnings) to VR, I guess it will go on being debated but it’s like comparing Ali against Tyson or Pele against Maradonna, VR was well past his best by the time MM was at his best and to be honest, to be riding one of those bikes for over twenty years (especially through the 500 era) is pretty hard core, he obviously loved doing it, why wouldn’t you? Well ask Casey Stoner!
scozza
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   Old Thread  #984 21 Jun 2026 at 4.37pm  0  Login    Register
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And again today, incredible, we are watching history in the making, the greatest motorcycle racer ever. Think it was about 2 to go, how he didn’t loose it I don’t know, unreal skills

Valentino who
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   Old Thread  #983 6 Jun 2026 at 2.51pm  0  Login    Register
Mr Dunlop absolutely amazing at the TT

Edit, amazing from MM....still injured.....only did 50% of qualifying...pole and the win
scozza
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   Old Thread  #982 1 Jun 2026 at 6.28am  0  Login    Register
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Considering he had surgery recently can’t believe he was back so soon, crazy

Aprillia is deffo the bike of the moment, super quick ✊

Great ride from MB and JM
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   Old Thread  #981 30 May 2026 at 2.35pm  0  Login    Register
Great win for Trackhouse/Fernandez in the sprint, thought Marquez did well too considering, belting start from him!
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   Old Thread  #980 19 May 2026 at 7.07pm  0  Login    Register
Alex Marquez has a fractured vertebrae and broken metatarsal apparently, hope he doesn't rush back.
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   Old Thread  #979 17 May 2026 at 6.17pm  0  Login    Register
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Yeah, on the replay PA was just starting to lift his left hand when Marquez rear ended him.

Not sure if you saw it but there was a camera angle they cut off just as AMs bike dug in, behind the photographers leaning over the barriers.
Can't wait to see that footage emerge online, there will be bits of bike flying everywhere, be a really cool shot slowed down.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #978 17 May 2026 at 6.12pm  0  Login    Register
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Crazy wasn't it

AM Very lucky, rare one that. PA bike just lost power? I reckon they were flying in that area too!

Bad move by Mir that too
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   Old Thread  #977 17 May 2026 at 5.51pm  0  Login    Register
What the hell have I just watched

3 big crashes, 3 resarts, 2 riders in hospital, that Alex M crash...he was lucky.

Great win for Digi....Mir in 2nd and Acosta knocked off on near the last corner....no one would believe you.

Poor Matin

Best race in a long while
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   Old Thread  #976 17 May 2026 at 10.25am  0  Login    Register
Good ride from AM yesterday, Acosta doing his title hope no harm coming 2nd either.
J Martin crashing again, was it 4 crashes total, very odd, really didn't suit the Aprillia.
Felt sorry for Mir, rescues a off then taken out by someone else seconds after.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #975 10 May 2026 at 4.11pm  0  Login    Register
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JM, Superb

I bet he will be staying at Aprillia now, that bike is FAST. Some moves at the start of the sprint from JM

MM high side, not good that. See how long he is out for. JM might be a good bet for the title
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   Old Thread  #974 10 May 2026 at 1.54pm  0  Login    Register
What a ride from Martin
MM out for a while injured, loose screw in shoulder and broken foot

Martin to Yamha next year along with Ai Ogura apparently, trackhouse team boss to Honda, think that's a shame!
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