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   Old Thread  #18 11 Mar 2019 at 12.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yep, that as well!!..
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   Old Thread  #17 11 Mar 2019 at 11.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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..... as long as itís a running lead
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   Old Thread  #16 11 Mar 2019 at 1.08am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You won't, in the same way you won't have any problems with lead clips, in-line leads, shocker rigs or mcf fast eject lead clips either.

That light bobbin with a balanced line offers brilliant indication whatever you use at the business end!!
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   Old Thread  #15 10 Mar 2019 at 8.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I always use a running rig, and fish semi slack lines. I've just gone over to using Jag Safeliner bobbins as they are nice and light. Have no problems whatsoever.
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   Old Thread  #14 9 Mar 2019 at 6.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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IMHO - The thickness of the mono is of no consequence really, it's the S.G. that determines it's ability to sink quickly.
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   Old Thread  #13 9 Mar 2019 at 12.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi ken , what about a heavy 20lb mono , something like .43mm ? Surely this would have the desired effect ?
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   Old Thread  #12 9 Mar 2019 at 11.10am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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100% agree that the lead arrangement is of no consequence when using a light bobbin. Most bobbins are too heavy for this approach IMO.
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   Old Thread  #11 8 Mar 2019 at 4.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have used flouro for the best part of 10years. I got on the original Pline halo and I can honestly say that the best indication I have found is with a balanced light bobbin set up. It matters not what you have at the lead end (lead clip, in-line lead, running rig etc) as soon as that rig moves and the line moves, that bobbin lifts full stop..!!
I would also add that this is irrespective of which way the fish swims also, that bobbin lifts.

Having the line draping between the rings and a bobbin on the deck will register no bleeps until all that unecessary slack has been taken up.
Just to clarify, by balanced I mean that the bobbin has just enough weight to counteract the tension and diplacement of the line in the water when properly sunk.
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   Old Thread  #10 8 Mar 2019 at 4.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Where the fish are and I'd say the majority of the time it won't be on the bottom but in the thermocline they feel best in. I used to fish a reservoir around the same depth, the fish could be caught at different depths at different times of year but rarely on the bottom.
Personally I'd be trying zigs and if bottom baiting square leads that will not slip if steep sided. You can easily tight line to a zig on a running lead.
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   Old Thread  #9 7 Mar 2019 at 8.00am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi NIck,

I was a committed tight line, fixed, heavy lead user until I joined this forum in 2006. I then came across KM's slack line method and after quite a while convincing myself that it wasn't all hokum, took Keith's advice and went on to light running rigs on a slack line (fluoro or heavy sinking braid). I have used this method almost exclusively ever since, and I have caught a few these past 13 years!

One thing I have to stress (as does Keith). This method really only works with a very dense, heavy reel line. It does not lend itself to monos of any description.

Those who rubbish the approach do so out of either inexperience or ignorance. I was as sceptical as the next man and poo-poo'd the tactic on a regular basis until KM's rigid insistence that I persevere paid off and I became a convert and have remained one to this day.

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   Old Thread  #8 6 Mar 2019 at 11.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Keith's Running rig
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   Old Thread  #7 6 Mar 2019 at 1.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Makes sense to me....
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   Old Thread  #6 6 Mar 2019 at 8.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry Mate,
You actually pick up every indication of any movement, not just screaming panic.
In many cases on running leads fish don't even know they are hooked, and you get a series of bleeps as the fish continue to feed and move along the bottom.

I've had takes within a few minutes of landing fish from that spot, so a recast and the slack line and running lead approach does not spook every fish in the vicinity❗️


In fact having watched takes on Semi-fixed set-ups, it is more likely the run will spook every other fish in the vicinity.

The running lead and slack lines are Moorsey's and Ken T's favoured approach. Ken has put pics up, explaining it.
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   Old Thread  #5 6 Mar 2019 at 4.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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WTF did I just write? You're like some effing parrot, haven't you got a ***** forum to OCD on?
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   Old Thread  #4 5 Mar 2019 at 10.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A real running lead is fished with a slack line, the line so slack it touches the bottom of every rod ring

The ONLY indication you get with this set up is when a fish goes screaming out the swim in a massive panic which spooks every other fish in a 30mtr radius...

Absolute ballcocks!!!

You can floater fish and cohearse hooked fish out the swim without spooking others. Thisis the same indication you should be looking / striving for on a static set up. The above is certainly not one of them!!

A 'balanced'set up is far better!!
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