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   Old Thread  #29 13 Feb 2019 at 10.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Looks like it's in the bay peg 19 and 20 only two pegs in there holds alot of fish at right time of the year
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   Old Thread  #28 13 Feb 2019 at 10.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
A customer of mine, who catches loads of carp, loads... Despite the disadvantage of being deaf. That does not stop Gary catching em!! He caught this from there a few years back, on a British deaf anglers charity match.

I know nothing about the lake at all, but those commons were/are impressive looking.

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   Old Thread  #27 13 Feb 2019 at 6.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Two commons and a mirror went over that I'm sure of it.Roy wanted it fenced two years ago maybe they should have listened
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   Old Thread  #26 13 Feb 2019 at 9.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Are those big commons still in baden I am sure one or two, went 45+.!?

Roy seems to have gone for a reason
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   Old Thread  #25 11 Feb 2019 at 9.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Definitely the right way Andy...



Its nowadays,not if...bur when a fishery gets a visit..

Today,I have been checking my fencing,I do this all the time..,especially now when the rivers are in spate ,I am finding fresh spraint,if that fence was not there...!!!...I would have NO fish...

Speaking generally,every angler in this country knows now about the otter infestation in the UK..therefore it is up to the owners of a lake to protect the valued stock..
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   Old Thread  #24 11 Feb 2019 at 9.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Spot on no point spending thousands on carp if they arenít protected
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   Old Thread  #23 11 Feb 2019 at 9.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I bought a fence before I bought any fish. It just seemed the right way round.
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   Old Thread  #22 11 Feb 2019 at 6.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís madness as in this particular case they have had the place for years and built it up from 2 lakes to what it is now. They are making a lot of money, but Iím not surprised as they have always been very erm how can I put this economical with the truth. Such as stock numbers they claim there are 300 fish but when you talk to the regulars and one or two of the more honest baillifs that number more than halves. Also it used to have a gorgeous 40lb mirror that went as high as 46lb. Hasnít been caught for 6 years. Most think itís dead, one regular claims management found it dead and removed it without publicising as it would remove a lot of peopleís desire to fish it as even now the biggest remaining fish is 37lb at the right time of year. But if you ask about it on their page the comment gets deleted and brushed away, again one more honest bailiff told us itís dead and gone and yet the owner still goes on about having the only 40lb fish in the county(which now isnít true as some lakes in disrepair up the road have been renovated and restocked and 3 fish in there now go mid 40ís) so if they canít even be honest about that no chance of honesty as to why they would risk what remains of their stock on their flagship lake
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   Old Thread  #21 11 Feb 2019 at 5.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fishery managers are gambling that " It won't happen to them". However with the spread and increase in Otter numbers, the odds are always shortening. Best to act before your horse falls at the last fence in the race.
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   Old Thread  #20 11 Feb 2019 at 5.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's because places like that are all about making a quick profit, anything else is secondary. The mentality behind not protecting your investment is just crazy. They're just sitting there with fingers crossed hoping they're not next to be visited.
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   Old Thread  #19 11 Feb 2019 at 5.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I just donít get it; take one of the local complexes I fish in the winter they have 7 lakes, 3 of which are specimen lakes, 3 match style and one kiddies style pond. They have only in the last year completely otter fenced it, they originally said the cost would be too high, but their main carp lake has 35 swims and most days at least 12-15 are occupied if not more, they 3 match lakes are always heaving, and their smaller specimen lake is often full day tickets for the smaller lakes for 2 rods are £13 and 24 hours on the big lake is £22 for 2 or 3 rods, add to this an on-site tackle shop run by the owners and a cafe which pays them rent and you end up with a very large revenue stream over the course of the year.

Now based on vs fisheries c6 price for a C6 fish is £35.50 per lb and they are average of 20-22lb so the specimen lake at 25 acres claims to be a big fish lake but with a chance of big hits. You expect a decent stock by that description so say the otters get in and decimate it your going to need a complete restocking over the course of a few years so you donít overload the enviroment with young hungry carp. If you put 500 C6 fish of 22lb that equates to £234,000 just for one lake of 7 on your site. I think Iíd rather take the cost of the fencing really
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   Old Thread  #18 11 Feb 2019 at 12.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Beating a dead horse, trying to tell some folk that..!
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   Old Thread  #17 11 Feb 2019 at 12.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
With most of the decent carp farmers prices for carp at 30lb+ for restocking it would make a fence seem cheap to protect fish of this size if you have them in your lakes anything 20lb + would, if you can afford to do it and have permission why wouldn't you, absolute madness.
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   Old Thread  #16 11 Feb 2019 at 12.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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May as well be leaving a bowl of milk out at night and complaining in the morning when cats have drunk it.
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   Old Thread  #15 11 Feb 2019 at 12.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
This is the argument I have with my father in law.

In his case he has a 20ft x 10ft and 6ft deep koi pond, a few years ago he didnít have any netting etc and they live near a river and an otter got in an killed all his fish. He has over the years acquired more fish including a 20lb chagoi I think he called it, almost a ghostie but more grey than white. He now has around 23 fish in there. Itís now got netting on it etc but he says otters should all be killed as people shouldnít have to go to this expense to protect their fish.

My argument is otters numbers declined because of us nothing else as there are no natural predators to them now. I agree their numbers might need a small cull but fishery owners only have themselves to blame if they get otters in their lake. Itís happened at my local, itís right next to a river and the otters got in, decimated the match lake, and took quite a few from the specimen lake, finally the otters have been moved on by the relevant authorities and itís been fenced but... too many owners say oh the fencing costs loads but if you think about it surely the cost of losing the regular ticket money/syndicate fees and costs of restocking a lake decimated by otters will be far more than fencing it!!! I admit rivers, canals, public lakes etc itís difficult but there is no excuse now especially as grants are available to help with the cost of the fencing
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