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   Old Thread  #19 14 Feb 2019 at 9.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thank for the replies. I'll have a look at the mentioned lines.
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   Old Thread  #18 11 Feb 2019 at 7.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I've not had the pleasure but I'd imagine it's as difficult as Gardner hydro sink was ie impossible.
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   Old Thread  #17 11 Feb 2019 at 6.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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How does it untangle from boat props ?
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   Old Thread  #16 11 Feb 2019 at 3.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's a good one for me
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   Old Thread  #15 11 Feb 2019 at 9.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Oh Mate, don't.
I was fishing at Cow Tower in Norwich years ago, and caught a 'snag'. When I got it to the bank it was exactly that, a sack of cats. Poor little buggers dumped and drowned.
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   Old Thread  #14 11 Feb 2019 at 9.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes mate, I have. I was impressed with it in 16lb. Recently needed to respool at short notice and nowhere local had mirage in stock so picked up the fox illusion in 19lb. Surprisingly supple considering the diameter and sinks very well although casts like a sack of cats.
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   Old Thread  #13 11 Feb 2019 at 8.09am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You could try P-Line Floroclear. It is available in clear or green.

While not a pure fluorocarbon, it is a fluoro coated co-polymer monofilament.
You will have to shop around, quite probably through ebay as I haven't seen it in a UK shop for a couple of years. However, last time I bought any it worked out around 15 for 1000metres.

p-line.com link
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   Old Thread  #12 11 Feb 2019 at 7.27am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Has anybody used gardener mirage ?
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   Old Thread  #11 11 Feb 2019 at 7.18am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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"I ALWAYS stretch & clean the material after every session as well as give it a proper stretch and virtual reload every 4 weeks where I take it to a venue or field that I can walk out over 150m of line and have room to give it a proper stretch and reel it back on to the spool via a line wipe/lint free cloth treated with the Gardner flurocarbon treatment liquid to condition it properly again. Unless it is physically damaged on a snag etc I can get at least a whole season out of a single loading without reversing it or having it lose it's breaking strain (not affected by UV light exposure or absorbing water like monos)"
Really that sounds like a right ball ache to have to do that every time, I use Yo-Zuri, never touch it for 2 seasons, admittedly wipe it as I reel in at the end of a session, thats it, never lets me down.
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   Old Thread  #10 11 Feb 2019 at 1.06am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I use flurocarbon mainline for all my lead work other than extreme distances. Never needed a coloured fluorocarbon as I use it as it SINKS properly without absorbing water like most sinking mono's do . Believe it or not a proper flurocarbon will not take or hold a colour like proper PTFE won't either (coloured "PTFE" is usually Delrin which is another Dupont product similar to their PTFE product they call Teflon). The only "coloured" fluocarbon I have ever seen was the Ultima stuff but that did not burn black like a true flurocarbon would & I personally think it was a coated mono (which is what a lot of so called flurocarbon lines actually are). I have never had any problems with 20lb X-Line as it casts well enough for my needs and is a lot heavier than lighter lower diameter versions - even on smaller spools such as SS2600. On my bigger reels which have slow oscillation line lay, I use Korda Kontour as it behaves a lot better than the thicker flurocarbons do with the greater amount of coils.

I ALWAYS fish it slack or semi slack so it is laying along the bottom as much as possible which minimises contact with the fish unless the fish is rubbing itself along the bottom.

I ALWAYS stretch & clean the material after every session as well as give it a proper stretch and virtual reload every 4 weeks where I take it to a venue or field that I can walk out over 150m of line and have room to give it a proper stretch and reel it back on to the spool via a line wipe/lint free cloth treated with the Gardner flurocarbon treatment liquid to condition it properly again. Unless it is physically damaged on a snag etc I can get at least a whole season out of a single loading without reversing it or having it lose it's breaking strain (not affected by UV light exposure or absorbing water like monos)
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   Old Thread  #9 10 Feb 2019 at 10.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Len Middleton tried using bright blue sea fishing line for that reason, another not popular method was to sink the rod tips so the tight lines followed the bottom of the lake. Obviously weed and detritus dependent. Not popular with the rod tips high brigade.
Sea fishing and game anglers know a bit about fluorocarbon. Anyone remember Grand Max Riverge?
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   Old Thread  #8 10 Feb 2019 at 10.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Tried Fluorocarbon mainlines and didn't get on with them, coily and cast like a bag of spanners. However, I love the idea of a heavy invisible line behind the trace so have a 20 foot length of 19lb Fox Illusion tied on shock leader style and allow it to hug the bottom. Even the 20 foot length misbehaves but I find stretching the line before casting it out helps reduce the 'coiling effect'.
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   Old Thread  #7 10 Feb 2019 at 9.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yo-zuri Hybrid in smoke
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   Old Thread  #6 10 Feb 2019 at 8.10am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Been through a few and always come back to 17lb xline
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   Old Thread  #5 9 Feb 2019 at 10.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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IMO I think carp are more likely to bolt when bumping into things they don't see, rather than the blatant.
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