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   Old Thread  #37 2 Feb 2019 at 10.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi NW
No, I donít think so as he is selling ingredients as well.
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   Old Thread  #36 2 Feb 2019 at 9.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thatís good. I would love to use more.
To make a point.... he said that about freebies. Thatís mean big quantities and freebies considered as a food.
For baits (even more for high attract ones) itís different.

Suppose that he had in mind powdered hydro not liquid ones. The latter go out of bait quickly.

Buy the way what is highest possible inclusion rate suggested then? For example of fish hydrolisate?

And alongside with predigested fishmeal as well?
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   Old Thread  #35 2 Feb 2019 at 8.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Got to agree on that. Sounds wrong.
Some hydros work their best at a higher level than that. And that in a pellet that is eaten immediately, not in a boilie that will sit on the bottom leaking for hours.
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   Old Thread  #34 2 Feb 2019 at 8.33am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm not convinced by that one bit. 4% max? Sounds like that was purely based on cost, not research.
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   Old Thread  #33 2 Feb 2019 at 7.52am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi BB,
I was told (by a bait maker) that 4% of hydros is top for freebies. Some kind of damages may occur to the fish.
He didnít explain why unfortunately.
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   Old Thread  #32 2 Feb 2019 at 7.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
With the suggested recipies it would be interesting to see the cost per kg of bait made.
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   Old Thread  #31 2 Feb 2019 at 6.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Christian, can I ask the reasons behind getting the baits into the freezer asap?

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   Old Thread  #30 1 Feb 2019 at 10.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Scaley,
I can only fish short day sessions, so I use paste for feed, which I try to make as instantly attractive as I can.
That's why I'm trying to make an enzyme paste.
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   Old Thread  #29 1 Feb 2019 at 10.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ok BB, That makes more sense, paste potential, more than boiled baits.
Less damage to the proteins and maximum Amino acid attraction.

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   Old Thread  #28 1 Feb 2019 at 10.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi christian,
Not sure what you mean by overdoing the hydros.
Do you mean making rolling difficult?

Hi Scaley,
I only make paste bait, so I have no restriction on solubles.
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   Old Thread  #27 1 Feb 2019 at 10.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks Christian.

What total levels of Solubles are you guys happy rolling bait with, before it won't roll well/or falls apart 2 minutes after casting out.

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   Old Thread  #26 1 Feb 2019 at 10.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agreed the peptpro has a higher degree of hydrolysis but it also means that the margin for error is greater with regards quantity in the mix. I'm pretty sure I overdid the hydro products on one occasion so very wary nowadays. 5% of the whey seems about right.
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Should be quite an interesting thread this

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   Old Thread  #23 1 Feb 2019 at 9.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi scaley,
Peptopro is really expensive, but NW said no cost restraint.
Also, the companies that sell these milk protein supplements are always offering discounts of 30% or even 40%. Even then, I agree, they are still expensive.
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