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   Old Thread  #29 10 Feb 2019 at 5.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm sure if this does start to happen the community will find out quickly, until then don't worry about it.

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   Old Thread  #28 1 Feb 2019 at 2.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It would promote EU product against non EU so for EU it would be positive, I believe idea of easy trading is meant for easy trading inside EU... but again there is also WTO not sure where would all that fall in with all their rules.... regarding bait there is also aspect of uk importing ingredients from/via EU... it is a two way street, problem is that with this brexit you dont even know what rules will apply and how fast (if not yet) uk will change them for easy trading for uk companies... problem is all this is normally done with some kind of reciprocity, not sure where power of that stands at the moment, where certain (more powerful) eu countries priorities are. Will uk (speaking in general not for bait) make it easy to import certain products (making it easier for uk companies) even if EU will not do the same for importing from UK?
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   Old Thread  #27 1 Feb 2019 at 1.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Reason I was asking is it could be used to be anti competitive.
An EU country could set more stringent import rules in order to promote it's own produce.
Not saying that would be viable but I thought the idea of the EU was to make it easier to trade.
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   Old Thread  #26 1 Feb 2019 at 1.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Both as far as I am aware... but there can be special rules for non eu aswell; minimum can be lowered for non eu, most definitely country cant set less strict laws for non eu than eu members and can not set different rules for different eu countries (unless they sugarcoat that in some special safety/hazard etc reason)... eu is birocratic **** and nobody really knows how things will end up or lets say what rights against eu/non eu discrimination will uk have towards eu court etc... if somebody wants to complicate things they certainly can both ways... but as I said dont believe anything will change regarding fishing there are things with much bigger power/money turnover out there...
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   Old Thread  #25 1 Feb 2019 at 12.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Eu laws set minimal general rules, each country can make them more strict, cant make them less, but more is allowed.
Does that include EU to EU countries or outside EU to EU countries?
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   Old Thread  #24 1 Feb 2019 at 8.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is it about time we went down the 'vegan route ' ?
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   Old Thread  #23 31 Jan 2019 at 10.34am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not quite so spiteful about our departure though, hence the
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   Old Thread  #22 30 Jan 2019 at 6.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I agree Ken however my concern is that once we are no longer in the EU the fact that boilies contain animal by products in many cases (ie blood powder, fishmeal, etc) they may have to be subject to veterinary checks. The reason I asked the original question was in the hope that one of the major bait manufacturers may already have looked into this potential problem. I assume that a bait that is milk protein, veg based would possibly be ok. Interesting times !!
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   Old Thread  #21 30 Jan 2019 at 4.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Eu laws set minimal general rules, each country can make them more strict, cant make them less, but more is allowed.
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   Old Thread  #20 30 Jan 2019 at 4.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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l dont think its France that is making the rules concerning imports / exports, its the e.u. and l think Belguim and Holland are in it.
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   Old Thread  #19 30 Jan 2019 at 2.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Except they are EU countries too?
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   Old Thread  #18 30 Jan 2019 at 1.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi All

Prior to certain EE countries joining the EU we were taking largish amounts of particle and boilies from there into France and Germany with no problems. Can't see why there would be any change when the UK leaves.
Back then the border guards were more interested in a quick check of passports and mainly concentrated their efforts on checking the lorries.
Deal or no deal I can't see them putting the manpower into checking every car, estate car, van and lorry

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   Old Thread  #17 30 Jan 2019 at 12.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Jim: I agree with your entirely that if in the event of a NDB border checks to ensure compliance with the legislation in your link, things could get very messy indeed. However, I restate that there should be no reason for such strictures other than for reasons of spite etc. Should customs checks be implemented 'by the book' I would agree with Anton that the EU would be shooting itself in the foot.

Thankfully there exists in France at least one decent carp bait, Fun Fishing, and I would be happy to buy and use their bait without reservation...And before any one starts! I have no commercial links to FF whatsoever.
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   Old Thread  #16 30 Jan 2019 at 12.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Believe me, a lot more are owned or leased by French than British.

I remember this topic cropping up during the BSE crisis and I traveled several times without trouble reference my bait and what ingredients they may or may not contain.

I travel out for my first trip of the year on 27th March and have no concerns that anything will be much different than it is now.

As you say Jim, there is plenty of bait available in France or other European destinations for the traveling Angler.
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   Old Thread  #15 30 Jan 2019 at 12.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I was talking about products being imported into the eu once we are no longer part as in anglers bringing their own bait to fish either public lakes or commercials, and i very much doubt french fisheries would have any say at all, and imo the french certainly wouldn't care about english owned lakes.

I haven't read any of the articles about eu law and ind importation but what would happen to say a sack of tigers that originally came from spain to go back into the eu, would you have to prove where they came from?

At this moment in time nobody does know what will happen but could result in massive delays at border controls if a lot of uk vehicles are stopped and searched
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