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   Old Thread  #67 12 Jan 2019 at 10.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thank you very much mate. Yes it did weigh very heavy Gary. Massive relief.
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   Old Thread  #66 12 Jan 2019 at 9.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It surely is fantastic news about your mum, Mark. That stuff can weigh heavy, and will slowly wear you down. It certainly does put everything into perspective also. Time wasted bickering seems pointless in those moments. All the best mate.
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   Old Thread  #65 12 Jan 2019 at 8.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thank you very much mate, it's very much appreciated. Fishing, and fishing bait is not the be all and end all. There are far more important things in life.

I sell them, I don't use the hook baits all year around, in every situation. That would be crazy. I use a bottom bait straight from the bag some times, I use tigers and peanuts a lot mid summer. Whatever the angling situation calls for, I will use. Most of the time I use them, but not all. Anglers need to use zigs, when the carp are mid layers or above. If you have something that will drag them down though in cold water, you tend not to have to use zigs. Only time I ever use them is when surface fishing at night mid summer with 15lb hook links.

I want nothing more than us to get along. I was just explaining to you, that often I cannot get on with people who sell bait. That's not sensitive mate, that's fact. It's not because of me, it's always because of them.



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   Old Thread  #64 12 Jan 2019 at 7.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Great news about your mother, nobody wants anything like that hanging over their head and it puts everything into perspective. You do come across as a knowledgable chap and I have been nodding and agreeing with many of yours and butterbeans statements in the times I have popped back into the forum. You are a tad sensitive though (probably because you are passionate about what you do) and on this forum I have learned the hard way that you have to take criticism if you are to hold your head above the parapet! Our views will not always be the same. There are many ways to catch a carp and it changes with the seasons as you know full well. Just relying on hookbaits is one way to snare carp (Iím doing it myself right now) and at other times particles, pellets, zigs is the way to go! Of course we can get along!! Plenty of room for everyone in bait world and I ainít fell out with anyone yet in 35 years of angling (apart from a fat kid at Claydon lakes who threatened to slap my mate)! And regarding curing hookbaits I think the first one I ever saw was a sting homemade 20mm cured in his butchers salt in about 1996 by a chap who got me into bait making. Did we know what we were doing......almost definitely not! It was to get round crayfish 🤩
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   Old Thread  #63 12 Jan 2019 at 11.18am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thank you mate, really appreciate your reply.
It's what I guess and how I fish almost every time, ie a scattered of boilies around the hookbait in the (supposed) right place.

I'm not disappointed of my catching rate in that particular lake indeed. A big deep expanse of water with rocky bottom and cold water for the most of the year, where the carp pass the most of the time in the upper layer and very rarely dive down to the bottom to eat. So, if I come to something that drive the fish in search of food on the bottom is more than welcome. This is something I try to achieve.
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   Old Thread  #62 12 Jan 2019 at 10.33am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thank you mate, I could have showed photographs of other blokes with big carp, forever and a day.

You still need free bait mate. I very rarely use them as singles. They will work exceptionally well as singles of course. Better than anything else. But it's much better to have fifty baits out there spread around a couple of rods. Carp will come in over an area, especially big pressured ones. They will NEVER start chomping food straight away. They will always survey the area gliding around above. Something in that area is kicking off things, that will actually help over ride this in built fear in them. Instead of surveying the area for a while, the competitive feeding signal is triggered in their head, instead of the fear one. They need to go investigate that object down there, before another carp comes along and takes it.

When you watch carp become preoccupied with a bed of hemp, or bloodworm for example. Their brain is in a different mode, they have lost that fear mode. They are in 'eat it all before my mate does' mode.

That's how they treat the hook bait. Even if they get away with it, they will try again, and again. They get hooked. I want free bait out there, so that when they do get away with it, which they will if they are cute. They can pick up something else.

They still need to be fed. Use free bait as you always have when using the hook baits. A feeding situation, is a feeding situation. A single pop up is a snatch bite. Feeding situations will catch you more carp.

Feeding situations with a proper hook bait, it's a licence to print big carp. Any type of bait can be used with them. They will work. I get asked this question more than any other. Stinky oily fish meals mid summer will work with the S2. Anglers think you need some sweet creamy smelling bait. Forget what you know. Forget what they smell like, it means nothing. Forget that you need to match these things up. You do not. We do a GLM-S2. This is the S2, with pre digested and GLM added to the base mix. Same cures. That hook bait came about, because anglers can't associate using a fishmeal with an S2. That's because of preconceptions before I was about. The carp bait industry is full up with preconceptions. They are not fact though.

Use them with anything, just pick a really good one. I would recommend Cell or Active-8 or Link myself. They are deadly with them. I've used Geoff's nut mix through my friends company previously with them, to great effect to. He cared about the bait he sold, so would get extras put in from Geoff. I was buying that bait, when I could have had others for free.

People who are flashing photo's all over social media, hash tagging big bait firms. They are among our very best and most prolific customers, in their own names to! Like right now as I write this. They become super hero's suddenly. How much bait do you think those sort of bait companies sell off the back of stuff like this? I don't care anymore mate. I just sell them the stuff, and smile when I see the photo's on others bait pages. But, they are using them with all varieties of free baits is my point anyway.

Part of the reason I am now associated with Mainline Baits... They have never done any of this stuff to me or mine, ever. They do not need to you see. 'Better bait by design' is the saying I think.

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   Old Thread  #61 12 Jan 2019 at 9.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nice Ken, I really enjoyed reading that. I like the betaine one. That looks very good.

Those chocolate hard coated ones you asked if they were still okay, they have that in the coating to. But it will disperse over ten hours or more.

What you have there though in your article, is attractors in free form. Not locked up inside a bait by egg and cooking. It may come off instantly what you have done there, but you still are getting a massive burst of attraction into the water when you cast that out.



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   Old Thread  #60 12 Jan 2019 at 9.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Mark
the result read in this post and the pics put on here show to me you are on something special with your baits. A lake fished by good anglers, dominated by a couple of baits, turned apart by your hookbaits is an incredible achievement.
What role play the freebies in tactical fishing approach in this scenario? Which bait can be used as a freebies to combine with, or are better fished as a single?
After fished years in search to establish my bait in the lakes I fish (luckily often I got it) lately, due the lake I'm on, it become impossible and the attraction in my fishing is vital now.
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   Old Thread  #59 11 Jan 2019 at 11.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And the lakes! Itís frankly embarrassing.
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   Old Thread  #58 11 Jan 2019 at 11.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Someone get these lunatics off the street.
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   Old Thread  #57 11 Jan 2019 at 10.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What a strange sport.

Thank God I have no affiliations to any company and use whatever I want. Doesnít everyone!?
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   Old Thread  #56 11 Jan 2019 at 5.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Drawing attention to the hookbait

My take on it.

Enjoy!
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   Old Thread  #55 11 Jan 2019 at 12.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You have not offended me at all Keeperboy. Not in anyway shape or form. When I wrote that post yesterday, I'll let you into a little secret. For the past two months, my family have had a large cancer scare hanging over my Mum. Horrible couple of months. Part of the reason why I am even here talking to you lot in the first place, is as I've been 'around' all Christmas. It might have been the last family one with her. Yesterday I found out that she does not have cancer like they were convinced she did. Yesterday was one of the very best days of my life. If you think you offended me in some way, you are totally incorrect. I was on cloud nine when I wrote that post, and still have not come down yet. There is not anything at all you can say right now about some fishing, or bait that would offend me.

To start with, you sell bait and pop ups. Along comes little old me to your forum. I start saying things, that do not match up with you selling your pop up mix pop ups. I'm terribly well versed in this sort of thing. Do you think the reason someone moved from CC to Sticky Baits, and away from NS easy cash, was not for one reason. They stopped selling them in the numbers they used to. Wonder what caused that. I'll tell you. Two blokes in a tiny kitchen, that's what.

When SHB started, the year before RP was totally dominated by Sticky Baits and CC Moore. NS were the golden winner. Local area.

Over 100 carp were caught that year SHB started. Over 95% were caught on SHB, a lot by anglers whom previously could not ever catch them. None were caught on NS, none. Fifty anglers, the overwhelming majority from two bait firms, with their top consultants in the main to. He was using mine when he could at the start. All of the Sticky consultants, one after tother had to ask for permission from the big boss to use them, or they were catching nothing. They changed the new yet to be released Krill five times I was told that year, by people from within. And before it had been released, they wanted me to formulate a different bait for them. Only for one reason. S2's. Northern Specials went on a big decline, some one left the company. Do you think he would have if he was still making the dollar per sales for his name on the tub? Of course not. Oh, some of those Sticky consultants are twenty year good friends with the lovely man who runs Proper Job. Please don't bring him into your discussion with me. His pop ups are incredible, and I had used them myself, before I had my company.

Nearly every angling pro in the country you talk about is connected to a couple of firms. They all hate me. I would not go formulate their bait. And they also know, we know our stuff, lets just say far better, than all of that little lot put together, and they know it to. So they have nicked every angler, that they can, that has ever gone up on our little page ever since. We don't give away deals, and we don't sell a freezer bait, just pop ups. Anglers can still buy stuff from us on the sly, through a mate, or a girl friend. Others, are all trying to copy us in some way. Those two blokes in a tiny kitchen at the start. Like the big companies to. Next you'll be telling me you have been curing baits for twenty years, go on. Heard it all so many times, it just makes me smile now mate. Think about what you are writing, and you're quoting me and things I say. Not the other way around.

If that all above don't tell you something, nothing will. If you think I could say these things in public if they were not true... You are very much mistaken.

Yes I told you they will take my hook baits in over and over again after ejection. Yes it was a bold statement, but it was a factual one.

I want to be friends with you Keeperboy, but I'm totally aware, that we probably can't be. That's not because of me mate.



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   Old Thread  #54 11 Jan 2019 at 8.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's rich....
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   Old Thread  #53 11 Jan 2019 at 8.36am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Paulie,

It is very refreshing to read posts from someone who seem to know his unions, based on fishing experience rather than solely scientific evidence. I have been experimenting with single hookbaits over the last years and a found lot of additions who, according to the critics, cannot be detected by carp, to be working very good indeed.

I must say I am intrigued with the S2ís and made an order for two pots, I will try these alongside my own hookbaits.

Since you talk a lot of natural sugers, the following question raised in my head; How do you rate erythritol? This is a sugar alcohol which occurs naturally in some fruits and fermented foods like red wine and cheese. I know Frank warwick used an other sugar alcohol in one of his early baits (Sorbitol).

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