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   Old Thread  #47 8 Jan 2019 at 10.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I confess to getting a barrow when I started taking my dog with me every trip, even worse I have been known to use it when pike or roach fishing on a day session.

I used to be able to walk my gear to the swim in 1 trip, but with dog food and extra water, I now need a barrow for any overnight trip.

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   Old Thread  #46 7 Jan 2019 at 5.10am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I can now do a single trip with enough gear for a week on my Fox Explorer barrow. Got rid of all the Camolite luggage as was taking way too much with me, and switched to the new Thinking Anglers stuff instead. This forced me to take less. If need a boat, then get a boat that has wheels on it like some of the Bic's do. As long as the ground isn't too bad it is easier to pull that than to faff around with a 50kg+ inflatable, etc.
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   Old Thread  #45 5 Jan 2019 at 2.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Paul

I sometimes go back to get the wife, but it depends on what time I get to the venue and how long the session is.
The sex in the bivvy fetish wore off decades ago and she's happy in the car with a good book and a G&T

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   Old Thread  #44 5 Jan 2019 at 10.23am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have to blow it up first. See the mat underneath it in the first photo, stops punctures as it's being blown up

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   Old Thread  #43 5 Jan 2019 at 7.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The 1st swim on our lake is literally 30 yards from the car park.
It has become my "go to" swim this last year......
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   Old Thread  #42 5 Jan 2019 at 7.30am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Youíll have to do another trip to get your unhooking mat and waders anyway so might as well get the beers and bbq then
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   Old Thread  #41 4 Jan 2019 at 11.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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, that and a bbq are the only two things that have lured me back to the motor.
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   Old Thread  #40 4 Jan 2019 at 10.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #39 4 Jan 2019 at 10.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Can someone who does two trips actually explain what they take?! Iím genuinely intrigued as I often feel like Iím taking too much with my half a barrow full.

I chuck a rucksack on my back (which could be much lighter) and load the barrow with a bed, brolly, food bag, bucket (or 2), camera bag and the rods.
Iíd have the same gear with me whether I was doing an overnighter in January or a full week in July (chance would be a fine thing), give or take a bit of extra grub & clothing.
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   Old Thread  #38 4 Jan 2019 at 10.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
My confession is:

I actually make the effort to walk or drive to a toilet now for a dump instead of using a bucket and bag, there is just something special about sitting on a proper toilet with something to read letting the world fall out of my.....****
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   Old Thread  #37 4 Jan 2019 at 10.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm not sure about all that groundsheet business mate, sounds a bit like luxury to me!
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   Old Thread  #36 4 Jan 2019 at 8.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The 400 acre pit I fish, you can drive all the way round nigh on

Sounds like a dream come true to me that, easy access and got to be some peace and quite

I do envy some of my mates with vans at times, cannot beat the tin bivvy either

Edit - Now that is hardcore Dickweed, I hope thatís not the same all winter 🥶
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   Old Thread  #35 4 Jan 2019 at 8.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have upgraded to a 55 inch brolly from a 50 with no sides, and upgraded from a compact to a full size bedchair for overnighters all year round.

I am really enjoying the extra comfort.

Also use a bedchair groundsheet in the winter as well now.

No extra weight with the new set up and can still carry it the 200 yards to my swim.
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   Old Thread  #34 4 Jan 2019 at 7.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think Iíve spotted your problem Mark. Thatís a boat & is meant to go ďinĒ the water , not round the outside of it.
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   Old Thread  #33 4 Jan 2019 at 7.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Carting all that lot, with kit added over a mile, would kill me.

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   Old Thread  #32 4 Jan 2019 at 7.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
With me it's like this... When I'm maybe carp fishing somewhere that should not be fished, I'll have minimum kit. Probably carry it. I fish for roach, barbel, pike and perch as well as carp. I don't use a barrow for all that and walk miles. But river carp fishing, I need twenty kg of bait with me, you are not carrying that over a mile with your kit. So I need a barrow then.

The 400 acre pit I fish, you can drive all the way round nigh on, and back up in every swim when the ground is not sodden. I have a big estate car... And take the kitchen sink!! Because I can. Moving is wicked, throw it all in the car loose, bosh on the move.

In the summer, when I have been there three days, I have frozen ice creams to die for, and freezing cold ciders in my monster cool box. You don't if you carry. When it's 90 degrees, I will lick my ice cream, and commend you on your stealth as you walk past dripping with sweat.
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   Old Thread  #31 4 Jan 2019 at 7.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Well, I started out fishing nights just under a brolly with virtually no tackle and thatís my preference today, minimal. I cannot think of anything worse than packing loads of tackle away, a nessesary evil, plus Iíve always upped sticks whenever Iíve wanted to. I hate been hemmed into one swim for 3 days, thatís camping for me, not fishing, my choice

Iíve saw the two barrow load trick quite a while ago now and thought, never
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   Old Thread  #30 4 Jan 2019 at 5.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Same here I don't put the door on the bivvy down unless the rain is driving in and never zip the bag up. I don't have a tv just a dab sports radio. I probably take more than i need but like to be prepared just in case. Leave what i don't need immediately in the car and replenish as required. These days with work and family commitments i really only do holiday fishing so trips tend to be long or not at all. Not ideal but better than nothing. My days of 2 or 3 nights a week are sadly long gone.
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   Old Thread  #29 4 Jan 2019 at 5.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I can do a night with one barrow trip but any longer its two trips. I like to be comfortable and eat well on the bank, its my hobby and I like to be comfortable and enjoy myself.
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   Old Thread  #28 4 Jan 2019 at 5.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I thought a bit like that myself Ken lol

I did buy one many years ago, hardly ever use it Might have something to do with the first time I did use it, it seemed harder than carrying the gear, after loading it and then walking up a hill, found a hole with the front wheel and half the stuff fell off again.

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   Old Thread  #27 4 Jan 2019 at 3.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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For sure bud, not offended at all. I just don't think it's right to call anyone's methods a fad or fashion because imo the guys that are out there doing it in winter are not there because it's fashionable. It's bloody hard work lol.

You're right, the carp don't care. And you've given my an idea regards my mobile approach with a little'n on the way too. I best get the baby in training pronto
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   Old Thread  #26 4 Jan 2019 at 3.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Did not mean to offend with the term Fad. I just find that certain fashions come and go and the carp keep on being caught if that makes sense. I dont think the carp care about it that much

I am training up my children to push all the heavy gear now
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   Old Thread  #25 4 Jan 2019 at 3.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I use a brolly right through but I've never had frost form on my face. Guys have been using open fronted brollies in winter since carp fishing was even a thing so I can't say I agree that it's a fad. You can't spot carp with the front on.... but not everyone is interested in spotting carp so again, it's each to their own.
As for not using a barrow, I've never seen that but I agree mate.... f*** that!!
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   Old Thread  #24 4 Jan 2019 at 3.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I am not referring to travelling light, i dont watch tv whulst fishing or carry lots of gear.

I am reffering to the fashion of: "I dont need a barrow because everyone else has stopped using them" or "i will sit in a brolly with the front open in minus 5 with frost forming on my face because everyone else does. As i said i take exactly what i need to be warm and comfortable and also fish how i like to fish. Please dont tell you have not noticed this fad in the last few years? i see it on most lakes.

sorry about spelling. On mobile phone.
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   Old Thread  #23 4 Jan 2019 at 2.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Survival fad? Eh?
I can't understand guys that sit hidden away tucked up in there bivvy for 2 days when they could be outside enjoying the season but I'd not dream of calling it a fad or knocking it.
You can travel/fish light and be comfortable, it's easy, warm togs and a warm bag is all you need. I fish because I love the outdoors and want to be in just that; the outdoors. Not interested in sitting in a bivvy with a stove on watching tv. I'd rather be at home for watching tv.
Each to their own innit. We all enjoy our own way of fishing and should respect each other's way of doing it
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   Old Thread  #22 4 Jan 2019 at 1.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I have never understood the 'Survival' fad in fishing. I am going to relax. I take exactly what i need to enjoy myself in comfort. Its not a bear grylls episode each time you go. I do it in one go when im setting up and than 2 on the way home as i take a half load with me to the car on way to toilet block.
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   Old Thread  #21 4 Jan 2019 at 12.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Im waiting for a brush & pan in Camo before I add this to my load, but in all seriousness Iíve been thinking about it all winter. My OCD really hates the muddy bits I tread in.
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   Old Thread  #20 4 Jan 2019 at 12.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
What's a barrow!
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   Old Thread  #19 4 Jan 2019 at 10.15am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I must be more badderer than anybody - two trips with a power barrow
Though I am waiting for the 48v barrow to come out with the wheeled seat behind the barrow.

My only confession would be my dust pan and brush for sweeping out the bivvy.
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   Old Thread  #18 4 Jan 2019 at 9.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I suspect their light approach is more about being mobile and able to move with little hassle.
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   Old Thread  #17 3 Jan 2019 at 11.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I once had a suspected stroke, which turned out to be false after having a couple of scans and was just a very bad migrane.

At one point I was examined by a specialist who asked me what exercise do I do. I told him that I go fishing, to which he replied that is not exercise. I then told him it is when you push a couple of loads of fishing tackle about 300 yards around a pond over rough ground on a barrow with its handles bending almost under the weight of it all and it then takes about 3 days and nights to recover laid on your bed fishing before you can push it all back again to your car. He just gave me a funny look.
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   Old Thread  #16 3 Jan 2019 at 10.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm tempted to try this this approach. I'm tempted to just try and do just morning and evening for a few months next season as I get ill get out twice as much and catch more fish as a lot easier to move
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   Old Thread  #15 3 Jan 2019 at 10.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I use to be an advocate on traveling light (ish) but as the years have gone by the amount of tackle carried to the peg has increased. But what does make me p**s myself laughing at is these anglers on my syndicate who take naff all with them for a 2/3 night session. Sleeping under their brollies in mid winter and chuffed to bits as they smile their way past me on their way to the chosen peg. The carpark is 500 meters from the lake and two trips takes me an extra 10 mins max, 10 minutes from 72 hours is nothing and I sit in complete comfort thoroughly enjoying my session from the cosy confines of my bivvy, coleman roaring, whilst they are tucked up in their bags at 4pm for fear of hypothermia. Now If I was wandering the riverbanks hunting the fish or trudging to the arse end of a 100 acre pit then it would be different story.....
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   Old Thread  #14 3 Jan 2019 at 10.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Mate of mine doesn't own a Barrow. If he can't carry it then it doesn't go with him. He does 24 hour sessions mainly, some of them on big waters. Rod bag, rucksack, chair/Mat and bucket. That's it. He laughs at the amount I put on my Barrow.
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More than you by the sounds of it
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   Old Thread  #12 3 Jan 2019 at 8.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What the he'll are you guys taking with you?
I can go for a week and still get it all on one barrow load.

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   Old Thread  #11 3 Jan 2019 at 8.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I have a luggage strap attached to the handles of my barrow, adjusted to the right length it goes over my head and across my shoulders. It holds the weight of the barrow and distributes it across my shoulders meaning I only have to hold onto the handles to steer it.
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You're not a lightweight, I'm getting a motorised barrow next time I have to walk miles. Summer 2017, I was fishing a spot on the river Thames, which involved a mile plus walk from the car. Along very uneven paths. Fully loaded porter, with often ten to twenty kilo of bait on board as well as tackle. I've always been a very fit man, I was a plasterer for many years. Not any more, not pushing a barrow a mile over bridges and stuff like that. I actually ruptured the ligaments in my left elbow, quite badly on one of those bridges one day in the wet. But I was catching, and still pushing the barrow a mile plus each way, often on over nighters to, for ages after I hurt it.

I messed my arm really bad for a good long while, I was like a one armed man. My left arm was weak as for eight/nine months or more. I could not hold fish up without a support on my elbow for ages, and i spent a fortune on drugs and remedies. Nearly as much as a motorised porter trade

I'm 45 now, I'm no spring chicken any more... Next time I'm faced with similar, I'll just go and get a motorised one. Sod it.
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   Old Thread  #9 3 Jan 2019 at 5.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I thought I was being a bit of a lightweight making two trips but now I'm comforted by the knowledge that others have the same struggle as I do.
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I also got a triporter big boy for the same reasons, but as i say over a rough field with sedge and long grass it's still not exactly easy going.
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I have got a Triporter Big Boy (this was the last throw of dice in trying to keep to one trip) and I have also used a power porter in the past. Both do make things much easier .... For me, its still not as easy as just carrying less stuff and doing 2 trips
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Me too as I can't afford a motorised barrow. I'm too old and unfit to push a heavy barrow over a rough field. Not so bad on a tarmac path round a park lake, unfortunately it's not smooth going where I fish.
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Your an absolute disgrace to carp fishing 🤣🤣
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I can't do any more than 1 night without 2 barrow trips

edit - tried last year at Elsons and nearly croaked, was like pushing a tank through sand!
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It's good to share your problems
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For the sake of my back, my enthusiasm and my sanity ..... From this year, I am going to do TWO barrow trips to the swim .... there, ive said it out loud!
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