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   Old Thread  #30 7 Jan 2019 at 6.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
No doubt Brexit will get blamed somewhere along the lines. Most tickets go up every year by 5-10% on average. Some don't. Maybe the cost of the insurance for the venues and buildings has gone up? Maybe new venues that they have (if they have bought anything) need stocking or fish being reared on to go in to the existing waters. Could be a number of things really, but at end of the day it is down to them to charge what they want to & people will still buy tickets if existing members drop out.
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   Old Thread  #29 20 Dec 2018 at 11.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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When CEMEX sold the lakes, they were restructuring their worldwide business to get back into profit. At the time they had debts of £4.2 Billion.

I suspect the accountants thought it would be a good idea to get a bit of cash from non core assets that they were not interested in, however as you say, it looks like they have given away a 'golden goose'.
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   Old Thread  #28 20 Dec 2018 at 9.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cemex have to be the biggest idiots in the history of carp fishing. They sold them lakes off cheap all at the same time, at a time when carp fishing was well and truly on the boom.

I personally know what certain lakes went for. They could have been sold two years later, for double the money some of them. And they are not lakes which involve Heathrow/HS2/flood relief either.

You have a massive international sand/gravel company, who got rid of so many interests around where all the new planned work now is taking place. Surely if they had waited just a couple of years, they would have never sold up when talk of all this major work started. Lucky for us they did, they would have been first in the queue if there was any chance of pits being back filled.
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   Old Thread  #27 20 Dec 2018 at 7.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The waiting game can definitely pay off for some businesses. I used to be on the committee of a small local club, just one water about a 10 acre plot. We could never get the land owner to allow anything other than a one year lease. The reason being was simple, he was holding out to sell the land.

The pit sat on the edge of a old quarry and brick works. When the brick works needed demolishing the agreement was that the contractor would remove the brick works for free and receive the old quarry as payment. At the time there was talk of a new bypass being built and I guess he thought he wouldn’t be stuck with it for long. The bypass never happened and it took 25 years for them to get planning permission. Eventually they did and he sold the land for several million.

The lake still exists but it’s now surrounded by houses. However one good thing to come out of it was that as part of the deal the new land owners had to agree to building a high fence around the lake, plus a new entrance and access road. They also made their heavy equipment available to the club, who had a new pathway installed around the lake, a lot of regrading work done to make the push round easier and also new swims built.

The original plans were to build two luxury houses that had the lake in their back gardens, so the club would have been lost. For some reason that idea got shelved.
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   Old Thread  #26 19 Dec 2018 at 10.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Definitely a great investment if it pays off. Need plenty of time and money to gamble with though.
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   Old Thread  #25 19 Dec 2018 at 10.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That is also my understanding.
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   Old Thread  #24 19 Dec 2018 at 9.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don't think that the UK side of their business had a choice if I remember rightly.

The Cemex CEO's & powers that be in Mexico, decided that it wasn't a direction that they wanted to keep doing, and/or it wasn't making enough money to maintain and run the lakes/fishing side of the business across the UK, so sold the assets and debt off, to sort out the companies balance sheet, and to use some of that money to reinvest in other parts of the business.

Getting councils on side to empty lakes and apply to be back filled can taking many years, decades even, to be granted planning permission, that is not even taking into account public outcry and appeals.

Getting rid of the lakes In their eyes was probably - short term loss, long term gain.

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   Old Thread  #23 19 Dec 2018 at 6.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I wouldn’t of thought a company like Cemex would of sold any of their pits if there was a chance of them being allowed to back fill at any point, especially when you consider what they were actually sold for.
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   Old Thread  #22 17 Dec 2018 at 9.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You could argue that if you are a man united fan you’re not even getting the 90 mins of entertainment.
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   Old Thread  #21 17 Dec 2018 at 9.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Signed.
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   Old Thread  #20 17 Dec 2018 at 8.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Done.
Was 1,997 I think, now over 2,005 votes, less than 500 votes to go guys.

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   Old Thread  #19 17 Dec 2018 at 8.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Be good if everyone could sign the Thorney petition please. I'm a member there and it's going to be a battle.
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   Old Thread  #18 17 Dec 2018 at 8.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Got a funny feeling after the current moves on plastics in the environment that landfill is going to be looked at very carefully.

Landfill or incineration? and using the incinerator as a power station is the way forward...

Too many landfill sites that were built on giving extra health scares, and the wasted resources that are now just sat in the soil doing nothing.

Thorney park used as a landfill?

the petition
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   Old Thread  #17 17 Dec 2018 at 8.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm following that and signed the petition. disgraceful whats gone on there.
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   Old Thread  #16 17 Dec 2018 at 8.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well with the performance with thorney park over the back filling I’m sure the council would jump at the chance to backfill somewhere as big as Wraysbury
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