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   Old Thread  #205 8 Jan 2019 at 8.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The cork balls can. I personally would not mount the crushed corks that way or the barrels or the balanced. It's far easier to just pierce them with a loop of floss and bait stop, and tie on to your ring I find. There is no solid ball of cork to screw into, and they are real food, not granite hard pop up mix. I don't use bait screws with them mate.

Save the S1 for warmer water. They have a sodium based hardened coating. It works best in warm water.
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   Old Thread  #204 8 Jan 2019 at 11.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Good thread, plenty of bits & pieces out there that flick the carps switches, these days I worry not about the science, why, if's etc, as long as the bites keep coming.
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   Old Thread  #203 7 Jan 2019 at 9.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yea just wondered as the others are the natural colour thought there might be something behind it messed with all things bait for years love it. I used mainline for years on one rod and swapped and changed on others. always caught well on there baits. Out of those three the a8 look like the ones esp with added greenlip. Can your baits be mounted on a bait screw ?? I bought some s1 barrels and pops when you first started but believe it or not I never used them tested them in water and they leak of a loverpy spice trail smell spicey and carpy. Might be time to give them a whirl.
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   Old Thread  #202 7 Jan 2019 at 8.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Because that's a nice hook bait colour mate. Washed out pink is always a winner Jim. The Cell base mix is a neutral colour, so it takes a colour very nicely at low levels. The Active-8 and the Link, they are much, much darker base mix and liquids. They don't take colours so well, especially the Link. Those two are better left au natural. They are Cell, just coloured pink.

Pink is a popular hook bait colour. They could have just have easily been white, or natural Cell colour. People seem to like that colour though in a hook bait. Mainline Cell users all seem to love them anyway.



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   Old Thread  #201 7 Jan 2019 at 8.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They flog Secret Cell at De Bows and Lesmont. Itís like a horrible bright red colour.
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   Old Thread  #200 7 Jan 2019 at 8.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry, couldnít be arsed with the link just assumed it was a video !
Donít believe everything you read 🙄
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   Old Thread  #199 7 Jan 2019 at 8.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What video
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   Old Thread  #198 7 Jan 2019 at 7.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Done believe everything thing you see on a video
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   Old Thread  #197 7 Jan 2019 at 7.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They did at Lesmontread here
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   Old Thread  #196 7 Jan 2019 at 7.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No they dont
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   Old Thread  #195 7 Jan 2019 at 6.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Pink Cell that's what they use at Bows Lakes.
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   Old Thread  #194 7 Jan 2019 at 6.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Why have you done the cells In pink ??
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   Old Thread  #193 6 Jan 2019 at 1.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No the best option, would be the Mainline Cell, that we make and sell mate. No pun intended.

The S1 are very good abroad, I'm told Poisson Chat hate the S1 coating. Most of the S1 we sell, are to go abroad with, they seem to work so well in France for some reason. If there are Chat about, mesh the coating so it stays on for days. Some double mesh it. I'm told it works.

But if they love Mainline Cell, get some Mainline Cell crushed cork from us and take Mainline freezers. They work, the bloke who was holding the 50lb+ UK common earlier in this thread, that's Charlie's Mate from Frimley. He caught that on a 13mm pink coloured Cell CC. He only ordered them on December 12th. He caught that fish at Christmas. The bloke holding the 54lb UK mirror, that was caught on a Link one from a 400 acre venue, within a week of him having them and broke his PB by nearly 20lb. I made a few prototype tubs in Link in our cured/CC format. A tub was given to an angler, not by me. That angler, was the top rod on a very busy venue (probably the most popular day ticket now) with those sample hook baits, and their new Link freezer bait, he absolutely ripped it. I caught more good fish from the river Thames in 2017, in a very short period, than anyone probably ever has before. A lot of them were on those exact same Link crushed cork, as he had and that same bait. There was only a few tubs made initially. Those few tubs, caught a lot of carp. I'm told the Active-8 ones, are crazy good to, they have a touch of GLM added, in both liquids and powders.

We are lucky, I'm good friends with the people who own Mainline now. I make hook baits for some of their anglers, anything they want. I use their bait, through choice. I get some special stuff to play with to. The Mainline hook baits we sell, are Mainline ingredients straight from the bosses themselves. Base mix and Activators. We've just added a touch of our hook bait bits and bobs to them, and put them through our curing process. They have the boom ting base mixes and liquids. And we can do great things with a hook bait. Winner winner, steak for dinner... After you caught some big carp.

If these could be made on an industrial scale right now, they would probably already be in every tackle shop, in Europe with a Mainline Baits label on (it's their bait). Not me selling them on a much smaller scale, to in the main secret squirrels, who do not want to show their photos.

Who knows, maybe one day they will be made on an industrial scale. I don't want to be making 'special' hook baits forever and ever, that's for sure. It's all to stressful when you are a smaller company and deal direct with the public.

These have to be special ordered at the moment, I'll tell you how via PM. But we have plenty in stock. They will be on the website soon. We are so busy now it is unreal. There will be a week or mores wait for anyone ordering off here yesterday, or today because I've opened my mouth on other social media to. I have to many PM's to even reply today on here I'm sorry. When I'm back at work tomorrow, I will look at them all before any deliveries go out don't worry and stick you all something extra in. We really should get back to just talking about bait making (not mine) again now though.

One thing that does keep popping up in PM's. You do not need to freeze them, you do not need to put them in the fridge. They will keep forever. They actually all improve with age. Just keep the lid screwed up tight, they will attract moisture otherwise.

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   Old Thread  #192 6 Jan 2019 at 12.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Very helpful, thanks. I was thinking of buying the 17mm and cutting them down but will get some 13mm too as a snowman topper. Going to France in June and have been told that Cell works well on the lake. Would the S1 be the best option in this case? Iv'e used corkball baits a lot in the past but really prefer the versatility of a cork chunk bait as the can be pierced easier. I use bait screws pretty much exclusively on all my pop up rigs but pierce the baits for a snowman which you can't do with a corkball.
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   Old Thread  #191 6 Jan 2019 at 11.09am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi mate, no the 13mm are pop ups to mate. They will hold up a size 7, or maybe a 6, with a size 12 ring swivel if using a chod or SHR. Remember, the pop up needs to hold up the barrel of the swivel straight as well. A size 8 ring swivel barrel, has a lot of weight to it, more than the hook itself. If using on a standard pop up rig, ie multi rig, they will hold up a 5 or a 6. I tend to use the 13mm as snowman toppers myself with an 18mm bait. But everyone else uses them as pop ups. Funnily enough, I just posted a photo on faceache of a man, who caught a 70+ from Mar Peche on Boxing day, on a 13mm S2 CC. He was using them as pop ups mate.

A great tip which I give our customers is this. If you look at the two photos' below, one SHR with a 17mm CC, chucked in the edge, has a fully sodden peanut on top. That is holding up a size 4 hook, a size 8 ring swivel barrel, and a peanut that had been in the lake for thirty six hours. The other in the mouth of a 40, has a tiger nut on top of the pop up, which weighs even more. As you can see, I like to change shapes. I'd get 17mm, and trim them down if you want a smaller bait. All carp ever see on pop up rigs is little round balls. These are very easy to eject for them, as they 'fly straight', and straight out of the mouth when they blow them. It's simple physics. You can see that I have added weight to those pop ups, so instead, take a 17mm CC and cut the top quarter off with a serrated sharp knife. Mount this on your chod/SHR, flat side up. This will still hold up your rig fine. Now you have something which no one fishes on a pop up rig. The rig will work much better as it will no longer 'fly straight' when they try to blow it out of their mouth.

Fish it over a few small spombs of halved freezer baits. Deadly Douglas.

When you see the crushed cork for the first time, you can see cork all over the outside of the bait. But as all of our customers who love them so much know, as in those two photographs... Once they have been in the water for a small period, you will not see any cork anymore. They feel all lumpy to a carp, and feel nothing like the nice smooth pop up, that every other sod has been casting out forever. One with a flat side, even more so. Carp 'feel' things, it's one of their biggest senses.

Someone else asked about cork dust. Cork dust is crap mate, and can be rolled on a table. It sinks after a few hours, and the dust contains glue from cheap crap cork. Ours are called crushed corks, as they have 5mm pieces of the finest cork inside. I had to import a load of it from Portugal myself, as the right stuff was not available in the UK. They are harder to roll than a cork ball. Imagine a lumpy mix, which is more than 50% made up of 5mm hard odd shaped lumps. They are a nightmare to roll. The lumps are worked into the middle of the bait by hand. When piercing them, do it carefully and put a hard surface behind the bait (I use my thumb), this will stop you pushing a lump of cork out the back of the bait. NO ONE ELSE makes these crushed cork hook baits, like a lot of other stuff... We came up with it, it makes a super cork ball pretty much. If you ever see any other sod trying to sell them in the future, well you just know don't you. Unlike a cork ball, which they will perform the same as in terms of buoyancy over a period of time, you can pierce them, trim them, and birds can pick them up over and over again. They also take on more cure, than the cork ball versions of the same bait every time they are 'done'. Because there is no solid ball inside. They are a little bit 'pokier' to, for that reason.


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