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 New Posts  Cyprinus releasing quick erect bivvy in 2019
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Baldy881
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   Old Thread  #311 28 Nov 2019 at 2.25pm    Login    Register
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I'm not sure either, presuming you push together then slide inside tube, then drill hole in tube that slides over and it pops the silver pin up to hold in place. Am I right?!
devon157
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   Old Thread  #310 28 Nov 2019 at 1.30pm    Login    Register
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What even are they ?
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #309 28 Nov 2019 at 1.28pm    Login    Register
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Loads on ebay mate
Carter69
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Carter69
   Old Thread  #308 28 Nov 2019 at 1.14pm    Login    Register
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Gerry, could you let me know where I can get these from please? Thanks.
g4fne
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g4fne
   Old Thread  #307 28 Nov 2019 at 1.08pm    Login    Register
Lovely looking bit of kit ... but the shelter alone weighs 9.5kg (plus greoundsheet and pegs etc) ... thats too heavy for me unless doing longer sessions ... and if i do long session i want 2man size... Bivvies seem to be going the way bedchairs did for a while (big and heavy) ... hopefully it will come full circle again
devon157
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   Old Thread  #306 28 Nov 2019 at 1.06pm    Login    Register
Just seen on there Facebook page answering someone about the cam locks, saying if they do fail they will replace them immediately.
oldgeezer
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oldgeezer
aka Mr Linky Poo
   Old Thread  #305 28 Nov 2019 at 12.42pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #302
if the cam locks start slipping Why not just fit a these much better idea IMO ?
Baldy881
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   Old Thread  #304 28 Nov 2019 at 12.22pm    Login    Register
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I have a very old Fox X pod plus, uses cam locks, still rock solid

That's a no pressure situation for the cam locks and that's why they will work fine

It's when there is pressure exerted on them that they begin to cease working correctly. On the Typhoon, you'll fit those 3 front bars and extend the poles to tension the front of the bivvy, it's that tension 'pushing back' that I could imagine eventually wearing the strength of the cam locks down

Happy to be proved wrong but could be weeks/months before you'd know. It's just if at that point you can't do anything about it, have you then got a sub-standard shelter that cost you £400+?
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #303 28 Nov 2019 at 11.24am    Login    Register
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Is it a bird? Is it a plane? NO its Cyprinus Wayne I think you have got a bivvy fetish going on
Wayne
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Wayne
   Old Thread  #302 28 Nov 2019 at 10.42am    Login    Register
I’m getting the green one and will see what the cam locks are like. If they start slipping I will simply mod like the tempest V1 anti twist poles for a few quid......
daveman
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daveman
   Old Thread  #301 28 Nov 2019 at 10.30am    Login    Register
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I have a very old Fox X pod plus, uses cam locks, still rock solid. Granted that's all I have that uses cam locks, but my message mainly was why are they being dismissed before anyone has seen or tested them for quality. Going by past failures, granted a number have occurred and moaned about, how many lost, stripped or cross threaded thumb screws in the past, loads I bet, lets talk about them as well, perhaps companies should always use captive thumb screws? Just a thought.
DiesilVan
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   Old Thread  #300 28 Nov 2019 at 9.46am    Login    Register
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It's funny how most have decided the cam locks will fail even before anyone actually has one and has reviewed the quality of them. Cyprinus is doing a brilliant job in breaking the monopoly of the big guys and all people do is try and find fault.

Don’t need to look to find fault as they stand out blatantly! If CamLocks were reliable, then more manufacturers would use them. The Fox Black Label cam locks loosen over time & once they start deteriorating, they will worsen quicker than before. avid have just started to use a cam system on their Lockdown range of bank ware but as it is so new only time will tell although the cam levers look weak to my eye.

The reason why Cyprinus can sell their versions at lower prices is that there is no retailer mark up on them as buying direct. I bet they would be the same price as the Trakker or Aqua versions if they were sold through tackle shops. I would also hazard to say that Cyprinus’s markup from there cost price to selling price is the same or close to Trakker or Aqua’s trade pricing including VAT.if you add 20% Vat to the £450 of the rpm version for arguments sake, then add the standard 30% retailer markup it comes out at £702 which is as close as damnit to the £699 of the Tempest Advance 100.

If I am spending that sort of money on something I want to see it in the “flesh” before parting with my cash so I can examine everything and make sure that it is up to what I need. I don’t know if Cyprinus have a storefront so potential customers can go and have a look before parting with heir hard earned?
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #299 28 Nov 2019 at 9.30am    Login    Register
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Looks like the front does not come off
Baldy881
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   Old Thread  #298 28 Nov 2019 at 9.20am    Login    Register
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"It's funny how most have decided the cam locks will fail even before anyone actually has one and has reviewed the quality of them"

Maybe a tad unfair, I don't think I have seen anyone saying they WILL fail, more concerns voiced over the longevity of such a system. Personally, I only find cam locks useful for bank stick duties where not taking a load. Personal experience has seen cam locks not being up to the job on more than one occasion when used as storm/under tension poles. So I don't think it is unreasonable to have concerns, especially when forking out £400/£450 for a new (untested) bivvy.

Not in dispute about it being a very good looking bivvy potentially offering value for money (I still don't consider it a bargain), but for the cost of it, it should be a tried & tested concept IMHO!!

Spike
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Spike
   Old Thread  #297 28 Nov 2019 at 8.55am    Login    Register
I think it looks spot on. Fair play to them
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