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   Old Thread  #425 8 Sept 2019 at 1.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hadn't even realised that in the midst of my babble

Amber Rudd has jumped as well. Pretty soon it's just gonna be boris, gove and Rees mogg with farage shouting from behind and offering to hold their jacket when the fight kicks off. ..

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   Old Thread  #424 8 Sept 2019 at 11.18am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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As much as I dislike the option I can see another referendum as the only solution.A GE will solve little as we can't make a GE totally about Brexit.

The problem would be which 2 options out of the 3 are on the ballot paper
1/The only negotiated deal(Mays) v no deal.
2/The only negotiated deal(Mays) v Remain.
3/Remain v No deal.
I'd prefer option 2 in a ballot.
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   Old Thread  #423 8 Sept 2019 at 10.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
So the opposition want to make leaving without a deal outlawed.
The EU say that the deal we've been offered is the only one
Parliament voted against that deal 3 times.
So what do you think is going to happen?

Are we heading for Bradford's prediction? We will not be leaving as quite simply we are not allowed too

Mal stop talking about house buying the whole world doesn't revolve you.
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   Old Thread  #422 8 Sept 2019 at 10.05am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I've actually got a solution to it.

It's perfect.

Nobody has to protest. It benefits everyone.

The 17.4 million people who voted to leave the EU should be told that their voice was important and be given their wish. They should be pointed toward a map of the world that shows all of the countries outside of the EU. Then, if they still want to leave, they can sell up, buy a ticket and ... leave. Easy.

It will give the housing market a boost. Free up homes for people wanting to get on the housing ladder. Give the building trade a shot in the arm as new buyers get renovations done. Boost trade for ailing airlines. And most importantly everybody gets what they want. I'm sure Farage will be welcomed in the USA with open arms.

Or am I missing something. ..?

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   Old Thread  #421 8 Sept 2019 at 9.10am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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'We're not allowed to leave'? Really?

A few months ago it was 'It's going badly 'cos May's a remainer, she won't let us go'

Or 'the EU will never let us leave'

Etc etc etc

If this were true, how come they've spent 3 years and christ knows how many billion quid buggering about trying to implement the result of the referendum?

Why didn't May, 3 years ago, simply say 'David Cameron promised to implement the result of an advisory referendum, I am NOT David Cameron - he's ****ed off, so sorry, it's a **** idea voted for by 35% of you, so tough, it ain't happening. On the plus side ... turns out we can have blue passports anyway - result!'

Public reaction would have been:
60% - whatever.
18% - a bit pissed off
18% - massively relieved
4% - AArrrgghhh! Revolution! March on London! - then lose interest after a week (like Farage's crappy march with about 30 pensioners)
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   Old Thread  #420 8 Sept 2019 at 8.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Canít say Iím into politics but I do take an interest in what happens with our county and at the minute itís an embarrassment.

So Borris jumps in through the back door like May thinking they can do a better job and when the reality strikes home, we are ****ed

First of all he claims a general election and plans to march us out of Europe. Next everybody has a no confidence in him and ****s him off, no surprise to me the pompous twit. Now he does not want a general election and that **** Corbin does, I wonder why

Letís not also forget this is the same **** who was an IRA sympathiser in the 70s

Bring back Cameron, not that Iím a conservative, all is forgiven

I see that **** Farrage is spouting off again too, ****

I said it in this thread earlier. Thereís a reason this Boris **** does not want an election now because he has finally realised what thousands already knew, he has not got a ****ing clue. He never declared his policies when he got the position ffs. I will tell you want the **** will do, drag us out of Europe, **** it all up and dive for cover the ****
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   Old Thread  #419 8 Sept 2019 at 8.06am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
There are now only two options left if your honest with yourselves as the parties are now so against one another that no matter what deal comes through someone wonít like it and will want to gain some kind of points from voting against it. So it will either be no deal or stay in the EU. I have said this before and I will say it again. We will not be leaving as quite simply we are not allowed too. Iím willing to bet that Iím right.
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   Old Thread  #418 7 Sept 2019 at 9.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You bored and trying to pick an argument?

If you can't work out which way I voted then use your time more productively and go back and read my posts properly. That should keep you out of trouble


Peace and love man, peace and love
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   Old Thread  #417 7 Sept 2019 at 9.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Highly unlikely, its obvious from previous posts you are over analysing every aspect of brexit and can't make your mind up, guessing you didn't vote in the referendum.
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   Old Thread  #416 7 Sept 2019 at 7.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And there was me thinking he represented the 'pedantic (and so obvious they are pointless) observations' party....

Thank god you told me. Imagine how embarrassing it would have been in the polling station!

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   Old Thread  #415 7 Sept 2019 at 3.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You say it's a mess and then say you would vote for Peston who is a political journalist and not even a member of any political party.
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   Old Thread  #414 4 Sept 2019 at 11.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Looks a right bloody mess

From watching Peston (who by the way I WOULD vote for) .... some things struck me.

Boris wants to have an election when he should have more important things to do.

He's said that he's made progress on a deal with new offers / negotiations but the EU say there have been none and he won't say what they are. Is this because there are no new points of negotiation as the EU say?

Boris argues that the 'no deal' scenario is simply his best bargaining chip in getting a deal rather than a viable option. Now, I'm no poker player, but isn't this revealing your bluff? If the EU know it's simply a bargaining device, then they don't need to shift. If it's not then he's telling more porky pies...

He wants to prorogue parliament for a queens speech that sets out future government action. Firstly he can't accurately do this as a no deal brexit would mean a very different set of government options/ spending capabilities than a brexit with a deal. Secondly, it's evident that whatever is proposed in his queens speech would fail to get through the house anyway, so the whole process is effectively a waste of time... perhaps the delaying / manipulative tactic that it has always seemed to be.

Finally... Salma Shah has more class than Johnson could ever hope for.
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   Old Thread  #413 4 Sept 2019 at 9.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Looking a bit less nigh this evening.
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   Old Thread  #412 4 Sept 2019 at 0.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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IP100, I lived in Luton for 2 years on the A6 in the 90's, probably worked with the dad's of lads you know. Spent most of my spare time in Leslie's, on the river and a couple of club ticket lakes recommended in Leslie's. Got some great memories of a few fish, Kenilworth Rd too if there was a game on. Lost way too much money in Sgt Yorke's. You could see where the issues were gonna come that bring about TR mindsets, back then. The angst in Luton was not brought about by the EU, it was by many home grown failure's over decades.
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   Old Thread  #411 3 Sept 2019 at 11.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Back to Brexit then ...

So Johnson got stuffed tonight. He's going for an election which he can only win if he promises no deal and gets Nigel Frottage on side, but he's on about getting a deal, which will split the leave vote and let Magic Grandad in.

I wonder what Dominic Cummings will tell him to do.
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