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   Old Thread  #62 22 Dec 2018 at 7.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry back again

Maybe to set things straight we should have a rerun of the Iraq war enquiry and not allow those mentioned to change or alter the findings to suit themselves, Tony Blair would then be found out for what he is.


Hopefully 2019 will be the making of this country as the MP's put party politics, self interests and career planning to one side to sort this chaos out!

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   Old Thread  #61 22 Dec 2018 at 6.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi spanker,
I think Blair's agenda might be something to do with him being awarded the Coudenhove Kalergi prize, given annually by the EU to the European who has done most to forward European integration.
More recent recipients are, Junker, Merkel, Tusk and Macron.
What puzzles me is that there is no political debate about the evil intent of the Coudenhove Kalergi plan.
BB.
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   Old Thread  #60 22 Dec 2018 at 5.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can't get my head round Tony Blair being allowed to rear his ugly head again , what is the agenda there and his sidekick Alistair Campbell , should both be in prison for their roll in bulshi##ng us into the Iraq war !
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   Old Thread  #59 22 Dec 2018 at 2.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Politicians have long since lost sight of the very basic FACT that they are public servants in office to carry out the will of the people that put them there,paid by the tax payer to carry out their duties and when they fail to do so they should step down before they are fired. How on earth Theresa May had the nerve to put that wreath on the graves of the first world war heroes on the 11.11.18 know she had sold all they had fought for down the river to the very country those people had fought against is in my veiw unbelievable.
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   Old Thread  #58 22 Dec 2018 at 2.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can agree with most of that
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   Old Thread  #57 22 Dec 2018 at 2.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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make do ????? why not all pull together , as they do in France , they do not listen ,, governments should always fear its voters , and when they lie to us there should be consequences , we are all in the same boat , we all want the same things .

job security

decent wages

a police force not cut to the bone so it is ineffective

an NHS that has not been stripped bare

all these things are achievable if everyone paid their share and the loopholes were closed !
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   Old Thread  #56 22 Dec 2018 at 12.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
You can make stats say anything you want them to.
Yes I don't think the gap between the richest and poorest is right but until that changes then we'll have to make do with what we've got which is post52

The people are revolting, perhaps that's why the voted Brexit

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   Old Thread  #55 22 Dec 2018 at 12.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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while I'm at it , as you will not see it in the majority of our biased press ,

Tax bands under Corbyn
over 80 k = 45 %
over 123 K = 50 %

under Thatcher for the majority of her reign was 60 % yet numerous papers in 2017 ran headlines that Corbyn was to hammer the wealthy when in realty he was only going to raise taxes by 5%

our press and media do not represent the average guy on the street like you and me , they back the establishment , their paymasters , the status quo , all those who pull the strings , the ones with the , the Barkley brothers , Murdoch , remember the Panama papers ! Corbyn is a once in a lifetime chance to end the corruption !and put power back in the hands of the public .
Question the smear campaign ,
Anti semitic , poppy to small , jacket wasn't trendy enough , supports terrorism , wears a Russian hat , stupid woman !
Anyone daft enough to believe this crap still ?
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   Old Thread  #54 22 Dec 2018 at 11.08am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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just look at our national debt in relation to GDP , and it has gone up every year since the TORY party have been in , the last time we were actually were in profit or surplus was under Labour ! that's right , under a Labour government !

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   Old Thread  #53 22 Dec 2018 at 10.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well , me and the majority of people I talk too think that in this country and many other western democracies we are reaching a pinnacle of corruption , in our media , press ,and politics ! lobby groups working for huge corporations have done their jobs well , resulting in little tax being paid by the richest few , the top richest 1000 people in the uk have trebled their wealth in the last ten years , from around 256 billion to around 700 billion , now this is all well and good if they pay their share of tax , which they don't along with the thousands of corporations that don't , just taxing these people , companies alone will bring a huge windfall to the economy . Surely everyone must have this feeling that whenever there is an enquiry , like Leverson , Iraq,Hillsborough ,Westminster paedophile rings , etc etc , we get shafted , our whole system is corrupted , Corbyn , will tackle it ,the unsmearable ,there is a good reason why they try to smear him , he will stop the tax avoidance ! he will try to tackle our corrupt establishment ,they are scared to death of him .
Does it not wind you all up , when our attorney General along with our pm lie and try to hide the truth as they did last week when they told us that they would not release the details requested as to wether we would be able to leave Europe knowing that we would not ,it should of been one of the biggest scandals this year , then for the press and media to make something bigger about what Corbyn muttered under his breath , which was clearly "stupid people "
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   Old Thread  #52 22 Dec 2018 at 10.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The UK is currently overspending on the budget to run the country. Look at this link.

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/5922/economics/uk-budget-deficit-2/

You'll notice huge spike in borrowing before Labour lost the election in 2010. They accrued huge levels of debt. This debt needs to be payed off and you'll see the defecit reducing year on year, when this can be reversed and we pay off some of the UK debt the repayments the UK makes on this debt will reduce. The government had no choice but to do this after they won the election in 2010.


You may not like the people running the UK for any number of reasons but they have managed the finances very well and the current direction is good but this may be ruined by Brexit.

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   Old Thread  #51 22 Dec 2018 at 0.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So how will the debt be removed and at the same time anyone under 80K will be better off?
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   Old Thread  #50 22 Dec 2018 at 0.03am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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delusional , just look it up , our national debt total has gone up 60 % under the Tory party , in just 10 years , under the labour party up to 2008 it mirrored most western European economies after the banking crash , brought about by our unregulated banking system , that will doubtlessly cause another future crash ,anyone earning less than 80 k per year will be better off under Corbyn , can anyone still think that the average working class man is or will be better off under the tories , honestly ! just keep believing the smear campaign ! do not think Blair represented Labour , he represented himself , a very corrupted man who should be in prison
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   Old Thread  #49 21 Dec 2018 at 11.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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1,011billion at the end of Labour's last term, 1,804 billion now under conservative.
Sadly since I left school in 74 I can't remember any decent government but my early memories of politicians were of people that believed in what they were doing unlike today's who just seem to want a career in the limelight.
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   Old Thread  #48 21 Dec 2018 at 10.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Like Josh it's the first time but I agree
Just need Blackfield to tell us we are all wrong
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