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   Old Thread  #53 22 Dec 2018 at 10.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well , me and the majority of people I talk too think that in this country and many other western democracies we are reaching a pinnacle of corruption , in our media , press ,and politics ! lobby groups working for huge corporations have done their jobs well , resulting in little tax being paid by the richest few , the top richest 1000 people in the uk have trebled their wealth in the last ten years , from around £256 billion to around £700 billion , now this is all well and good if they pay their share of tax , which they don't along with the thousands of corporations that don't , just taxing these people , companies alone will bring a huge windfall to the economy . Surely everyone must have this feeling that whenever there is an enquiry , like Leverson , Iraq,Hillsborough ,Westminster paedophile rings , etc etc , we get shafted , our whole system is corrupted , Corbyn , will tackle it ,the unsmearable ,there is a good reason why they try to smear him , he will stop the tax avoidance ! he will try to tackle our corrupt establishment ,they are scared to death of him .
Does it not wind you all up , when our attorney General along with our pm lie and try to hide the truth as they did last week when they told us that they would not release the details requested as to wether we would be able to leave Europe knowing that we would not ,it should of been one of the biggest scandals this year , then for the press and media to make something bigger about what Corbyn muttered under his breath , which was clearly "stupid people "
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   Old Thread  #52 22 Dec 2018 at 10.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The UK is currently overspending on the budget to run the country. Look at this link.

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/5922/economics/uk-budget-deficit-2/

You'll notice huge spike in borrowing before Labour lost the election in 2010. They accrued huge levels of debt. This debt needs to be payed off and you'll see the defecit reducing year on year, when this can be reversed and we pay off some of the UK debt the repayments the UK makes on this debt will reduce. The government had no choice but to do this after they won the election in 2010.


You may not like the people running the UK for any number of reasons but they have managed the finances very well and the current direction is good but this may be ruined by Brexit.

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   Old Thread  #51 22 Dec 2018 at 0.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So how will the debt be removed and at the same time anyone under £80K will be better off?
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   Old Thread  #50 22 Dec 2018 at 0.03am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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delusional , just look it up , our national debt total has gone up 60 % under the Tory party , in just 10 years , under the labour party up to 2008 it mirrored most western European economies after the banking crash , brought about by our unregulated banking system , that will doubtlessly cause another future crash ,anyone earning less than £80 k per year will be better off under Corbyn , can anyone still think that the average working class man is or will be better off under the tories , honestly ! just keep believing the smear campaign ! do not think Blair represented Labour , he represented himself , a very corrupted man who should be in prison
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   Old Thread  #49 21 Dec 2018 at 11.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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1,011billion at the end of Labour's last term, 1,804 billion now under conservative.
Sadly since I left school in 74 I can't remember any decent government but my early memories of politicians were of people that believed in what they were doing unlike today's who just seem to want a career in the limelight.
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   Old Thread  #48 21 Dec 2018 at 10.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Like Josh it's the first time but I agree
Just need Blackfield to tell us we are all wrong
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   Old Thread  #47 21 Dec 2018 at 9.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Absolutely spot on, look at the mess that parasite Blair left in his wake. Then after completely ruining the country, just like all his parties other leaders, he went on to accumulate millions of pounds, the smarmy barstool!
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   Old Thread  #46 21 Dec 2018 at 9.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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First post I’ve ever agreed with you on. The Labour Party at the moment for the uk would ruin us, old JC has promised the world to the young and they’ve fallen for it!
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   Old Thread  #45 21 Dec 2018 at 9.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just remeber who to thank for the continuing tolls.... Tony Blair's Labour party. Then remember who is to blame for the UK's record crippling level of debt ... The Labour party.

Maybe their not all as bad as each other?... every time the looney party get in they mess it up and it takes decades for the country to rebuild. We then think it's time for change, they get in and then they screw it up again.....





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   Old Thread  #44 20 Dec 2018 at 10.24am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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don't vote?

WTF are you on about man? That has to be the stupidest thing I have ever read on this forum and that takes some beating!


Notice the quote marks? The full quote is, "The very desire to become a politician should automatically bar them from ever becoming one...Don't vote. It only encourages them (people who aspire to be politicians).

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   Old Thread  #43 19 Dec 2018 at 12.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Great example. The Dartford bridge. Paid for, out of tax payers money. I was with a woman at the time, who lived in Chafford Hundred. Being local to the bridge, she got a flyer through, saying as soon as the bridge was paid for, the tolls would be abolished, and the bridge/tunnel would be free. Nice.

That did not happen. When the bridge was paid for, the stupid idiot government sold it to the French (probably involving massive back handers). Now that bridge makes a fortune daily, and fair enough it was not free... BUT SELL IT TO THE FRENCH!!!!! What the actual ****? We now have no control over the prices, like electric, gas, many things like that. They sold it all to our/their friends the Euros

Like you say, they have destroyed this country, I hope it's not to late for it to be sorted. It will be. But 'they' are to blame, all as bad as each other to.
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   Old Thread  #42 19 Dec 2018 at 11.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I would vote remain now if given the opportunity again just on the back of the threat of buying a 3 year visa for £6.70 I've spunked that on a pint in the port waiting to depart this joke of a country.

The one that really gets me are all the millennial's asking for a second referendum because they were not old enough in 2016 to be able to vote if that's the case can we do the same with the vote in the 70's that started disassembling what was once a great country I was only 3 or 4 at the time and nobody considered my future.

It's all a big farce like those that were predicting the millennium bug saying the computers and electronic devices were going to all stop working, woke up the next morning switched on my computer and was devastated it worked just like the day before.

It's nice soft ground at the moment with all the rain better start digging the fall out shelter and getting supplies in, that's the lot from me I've got to get on I've got David Icke coming round my gaff tonight I've got some swedes in the vegetable rack I'm going to sell them to him as Pineapples.

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   Old Thread  #41 19 Dec 2018 at 11.50am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Exactly. And we will be fine. We always are. We're not some third world nation, we are Great Britain. Anything else is scaremongering. We make, and spend a lot of money, but it's all being messed up. I hope this is the start, of things actually getting much better myself.

The Euro trading zone was great. Changed though didn't it. Changed the face of this country. A vote was put to the British people. They voted to leave, so as you said, leave we must.

It makes me want to vomit when I see people trying to squirm a different way. Do these people not under stand the word DEMOCRACY and what it means?

I am very undecided on this from the very start, so I did not vote. I could not make up my mind, and had changed it a few times. I'm almost glad I did not vote now, what would it have meant? They have tried their best to get out of it.
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   Old Thread  #40 19 Dec 2018 at 11.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It was put to the vote on the understanding it was a once in a lifetime decision and they'd be no second vote.
Don't know how long a lifetime is but it's certainly not now.
For better or worse we must leave.
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   Old Thread  #39 19 Dec 2018 at 11.33am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Brexit is lush. I get to wind Germans up on PokerStars when I do play. Before I only had the war. That becomes a bit tedious. Brexit, has been golden, it's added another string to my bow. They don't have good senses of humour generally the Germans. My good mates missus is German, she is so funny. She told me, Germany are still paying for the war. Other Euro nations. They may have to do some of the stuff that has been done, but we do not.

The will of the people must be done. It was put to a vote, the vote went a certain way. That way has to be implemented now, anything else will create chaos. We were a world leader in all things production and design, long before the Euro state, and will be afterwards to. They need us, they need London's/Uk's money. The world does. Doom and gloom will not sort all this out.

Everyone hated Thatcher, well I remember her when I was a kid, she would have sorted these Euro sausages out, in five minutes. She would probably have told the French, we owe them all nothing, best remember why they don't speak German. Regarding Gibraltar, she'd have probably told the Spanish, remember the Falklands, and give them a little wink. May, is a wet blanket. They all are.

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