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In reply to Post #149
Looks good that set up how do you get on with it tangling
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In reply to Post #147
so is there a danger proof running rig out there
The lead is attached with a C-clip. Should it become snagged the clip will allow the lead to discharge...
The hole in the small end of most tail rubbers is too small to pass over any knot and in many cases so is the one in the clip itself
This is the safest way to use a lead clip IMO. (Note: The clip is pinned to the swivel.)
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In reply to Post #146
In reply to Post #146
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In reply to Post #146
so is there a danger proof running rig out there
im not sure now
i can see the faults with disposing the lead if it gets caught up
i suppose thats the same problem with any running lead rig
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As mozibay has said, the pb products hit and run system seems pretty safe to me if you do want a fixed then running setup - as soon as the swivel is pulled out you are on to the pulley system. There is a hole in the hit and run lead clip to insert a pin and hold the swivel in place - but that defeats the point of the system in my opinion.
I just tried a crude test with their hit and run lead clips using their silk ray leader. The idea behind the test was to assume a crack off/cut off. For what it’s worth the rig was a silicone boom rig with chod attached (closest rig to hand at the time) The quick change swivel (boy are these tough - had to use pliers to open it enough to clip the ring swivel in!) was wetted and inserted in the lead clip, and the lead lifted off the carpet and given one good shake to simulate a carp (crude I know). The leads do not have pin to hold them in. The lightest lead I could get the quick change swivel to pop out straight away was 12gr/.42oz. With an 8gr/.28oz (the lightest weight I could find in my coarse tackle box) it won’t pop out - but I’m pretty sure that carp anglers don’t use leads this light! A 1oz pops it out and almost all of the leader (which is about 3ft long). I didn’t bother to try anything heavier as the heavier the lead the easier will be for the system to work.
I like the fact that if you do crack off/cut off the only thing left in the carp is your rig (once the line and leader are pulled through the swivel eye)
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In reply to Post #140
Don't worry, I'm sensible enough not to respond to your baiting and ignorance, because quite simply you are not worth replying to😉
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In reply to Post #139
You can't compare an inline with a pendant lead setup, totally different beasts.
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In reply to Post #140
I dont use running leads and they are something i haven't used as they wouldn't have suited the silty venues i usually fish however:
I was fishing a weedy venue a good few years ago now and got chatting to an old boy who was doing very well on the water. He said all he used was small inlines and didn't have a problem in the weed as they dont "snag up" and get caught like pendant leads.
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In reply to Post #140
.’yeah but a hole in a lead is much bigger than a lead clip ‘
I was thinking that as I was writing  but, the bore of any tubing used behind it is definitely much smaller than the bore of any lead clip etc
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In reply to Post #139
Well according to some , inlines are safe especially in weed ! I’m not commenting any more though as I might upset someone  
You’ll probably get an answer along these lines....’yeah but a hole in a lead is much bigger than a lead clip ‘
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So.......without totally changing the subject, reading this has made me think about the difference between a running/non-pegged lead clip and and inline set-up.
With an inline the swivel 'clips' in like a non-pegged Korda lead clip or plugs in if there is a rubber insert and if the line snaps the lead, lead insert, tail rubber and tubing (if used) have to slide off the line as invariably the first thing that happens if it hits trouble is the swivel will pop out of the lead, same as what folks are saying about a running lead clip. This is usually considered a safe set up but is it? Adding to that I know some people use this set up with a slightly crushed swivel eye to effectively make it running
Discuss 
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In reply to Post #136
Thanks for the reply mate, swapped over to the fox ones with a peg in, and invested in a packet of large bore running rig c clips.
I've just put my rods out, so be interesting to see how the running rig performs over the next 48.
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Lead clips or safety clips, are not something I’ve ever concerned myself with, and I’ve never lost fish as a consequence.
A lot of nonsense, subject to opinion.
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In reply to Post #131
I dont think ive ever been so confused about lead clips in my life.
The set up im using at the moment is.
15lb main line 12 inches of tungsten tubing tail rubber lead clip and a swivel that clips into the lead clip. Thread a pva bag on hooklink attach to quickcahnge swivel and cast out.
If ive read this thread correctly then this set up im using is not safe.?
If my mainline brakes above the tubing it gets tangled, and the swivel in the leadclip pulled out on the bite, so therefore my lead wont drop off as there is no pressure on my lead clip.?
Am i right in thinking that the solution to this is to buy the leadclips that contain a peg to stop the swivel comeing out on the bite.?
The tied or pinned on leadclips are most definitely the best if you do need to eject the lead. I think the Korda 'click lock' lead clips are awful for a couple of reasons:
1. You have to buy Korda size 8 swivels. Despite being size 8, various different manufacturers have slightly different barrel sizes. Yet Korda swivels are more expensive than Mustad, Leeda or other non carp brands, which do have as good a breaking strain.
2. The click lock is not secure, it can pull free, as you pointed out, leaving a lead clip unable to eject the lead. In the event of a break and tangle above the leadclip or tubing, the internal bore stops the whole lot coming free of the line.
3. You CAN modify the Korda or cheap generic lead clips, by drilling a hole through them to fit a locking pin or tying them on. The correct spot is directly above where the lead attachment moulding goes back into the lead clip body.
4. Me personally, I am not a fan of leadclips at all. I prefer to use an original Kevin Maddocks style bolt rig. A run ring on the line with the line fished tight. While not a true semi-fixed lead, because the run ring can slide, it is a rig that will or originally did make the carp bolt.
I'm sorry if this goes over what I was trying to say earlier in the thread, but the 5mm hole in the run ring, even running on tubing, will go over most break-off knot and tangles.
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