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   Old Thread  #243 7 Feb 2019 at 10.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thank you mate. Great times Darren. I remember you, I did the moment you pm'd me your name. You was honestly one of the nicest blokes I met over there. I cannot remember who was in the DE and left that day. I always would have loved to have thanked him to. I spoke to him, but was in such a tizz about fishing, I cannot even remember who it was. That rig was lethal, the most deadly thing that you can get. A true self hooking rig. Yes all and sundry including myself, had done it with clips so many times previously. But that was a different beast entirely. With that elastic band under tension, and tension on the rod tip... Tied the right way, the line going to down to the edge was dead slack. As soon as the lead was moved, the knot on the elastic band would turn, and very little pressure, would snap it very easily. A roach could do it. TWANG. No getting away with it anymore. I was casting bare leads through tree fronds above the small pads. Then going around, clearing any line up, then manoeuvring my mainline along under the tree... Tying the rig on, and tying up the elastic band. This had to be done properly, so the tension could be wound into it, without breaking the elastic.

But they still did get away with it mate. What really caught those fish, was understanding how much that they actually 'got away' with it. Not just that elastic band rig. I had to little and often bait it. I would sneak around, twenty times a day... Two big handfuls of bait. Sometimes I would creep around, and the slack line going to the undercut, would be tight, and pointing out into the lake. They still got away with it. Even with the most efficient rig, carp fishing has probably ever seen. They still done it over. So turning up at 4am, putting rods out, with 50 baits scattered around... Then sitting back for the day... Not a lot of chance in reality. Those 50 baits were gone in ten minutes, and their rig had been 'done' three times. Game over for the day. I could reposition rods with a landing net pole. Without dismantling the elastic band. When I went to bait up, the rig was slipped out and checked whilst I baited. I was using 5-10kg of bait a day, stashed in the van. All in bits, or at the end of the day. No one knew what I was actually doing really. They loved a brazil nut to...

No one knew that undercut was even there. It was formed by the root system of the big tree that over hangs the main pads. I found it by accident. I was talking to someone on my mobile, while setting up the elastic band LOL. I had the phone wedged between shoulder and ear. The brown fish cleared the water in front of me, and made me jump out of my skin it was so close. I dropped the phone. I could see it still lit up on the bottom. As I tried to get it in three foot of murky water, it disappeared under the bank. That undercut was monster. Loads of big carp could sit in there, and did. It was the 'kings' of the lakes little safe home. It was the best spot on the entire lake, and had never been fished at a guess. On a very, very busy little acre lake to. It was a licence to print big carp, for a very short little period of time for me. Devastating. I have not even used it ever since, apart from that first time at Sutton, and the Railway when it had no fish left in it hardly. No where else I've ever fished warranted it since. Kent carp was the last fish I caught using it. That was quite a long time ago now to.

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   Old Thread  #242 6 Feb 2019 at 11.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Please don't mention bait, you'll attract flies and dung beetles.
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   Old Thread  #241 6 Feb 2019 at 6.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I wasn't fishing in the dead end mate, but was walking round, clocking what was happening, like you do.
Still have great memories of that time, the ( standout anglers ) the people, the fish.

It was simply great angling by you, seen a few things over the years, that you know will muller them.
Trouble is the green eyed monster appears, and then things get banned, don't they

I knew the potential of what you was doing, if the fish were in there, and didn't get spooked out of that end by bank noise and cast alots.

I clocked what you was doing, but I prefer to leave people to 'do their thing in peace' rather than hang around like a bad smell and grill/eyeball everything you do.

I had a 27lb common from that same margin shelf, from the far bank dropping them off the tips, and being very .

You certainly wasn't 'suffering' on there.
You fell into a category of an innovator & thinker back then, I was right, as look what you have caught elsewhere since, and start up a hookbait company .

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   Old Thread  #240 6 Feb 2019 at 6.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What an excellent atmospheric shot !

Your mate did very well to avoid any camera shake, I would have been buzzing, watching that along the margins.

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   Old Thread  #239 6 Feb 2019 at 4.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #238 6 Feb 2019 at 4.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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"And those pike too!! Just beautiful."

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   Old Thread  #237 6 Feb 2019 at 5.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #236 4 Feb 2019 at 11.11am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You are right mate, and he should do it. I would buy it in a heat beat. Everyone would.

You're right, books are dying.
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   Old Thread  #235 4 Feb 2019 at 11.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Johnson's Railway Darren. Same elastic band rig. I did not take this photograph. It was taken on my camera, by a friend whom I had sent round to see a famous old 'Kent carp' in the edge, whilst popping in to see me. He took this wicked photograph of 'Kent Carp' on my camera. It got caught ten minutes later.

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   Old Thread  #233 4 Feb 2019 at 10.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thank you Darren. You was definitely one of the good guys. I remember meeting you, and you shaking my hand. Most did to be fair mate. It was not you in the Dead End that first day was it? My memory is terrible.

In the Dead End where I met you Darren, Sutton 2. Elastic band rigs in the under cut just along from the pads, and one in the corner. Peach common was caught ten minutes after this photograph was taken from the under cut. It's a scan of a print.

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   Old Thread  #229 3 Feb 2019 at 6.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
edit: found info on Cemex re. Eton-Wick
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