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   Effect of shelf-life boilies on carp
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   Old Thread  #37 9 Feb 2019 at 3.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Blimey Ken...Ash Girdler, there's a name from the past. I remember him well!
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   Old Thread  #36 9 Feb 2019 at 2.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wrong on both counts.
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   Old Thread  #35 9 Feb 2019 at 11.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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FAKE NEWS ALERT!!!!

This hoary old bullshine has raised its ugly head several times over the nearly 20 years since the first study was published, usually by lazy journos at the Angling Times with nothing better to do. Both the studies mentioned by the AT (those by Arlinghaus, and Ash Girdler) have been widely discredited.
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   Old Thread  #34 9 Feb 2019 at 10.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Egg powder doesn't stop baits going off, I use it in my baits.
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   Old Thread  #33 9 Feb 2019 at 10.18am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nash scopex squid was like that never went off. got told they used egg powder instead of fresh eggs.
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   Old Thread  #32 22 Mar 2018 at 11.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry mate, missed that post. Not sure if it was analyzed. Believe they got someone in who had similar results on other lakes. Iíll try and find out if there is anymore on it since
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   Old Thread  #31 20 Mar 2018 at 3.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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moved to another thread.
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   Old Thread  #30 20 Mar 2018 at 8.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The largest forms of preservation for Human food stuffs do not involve the use of preservatives at all.

Maybe some of these methods are being transferred accross to bait making.

I think the focus which has led improvements in shelf life bait have been in and around remoing volitile ingridients which needed stabalizers adding when making into shelf life products initially.
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   Old Thread  #29 16 Mar 2018 at 1.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I use baitworks shelf life and have to swap over baits around 10 - 12hrs. Guess it all depends on water temp etc I'm not a bait guru by anymeans.. I'll be honest though its one of the best shelf life boillies I've ever fished in terms of breaking down.
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   Old Thread  #28 16 Mar 2018 at 9.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Mark Bryant makes both shelf life and frozen baits so I asked him for his thoughts on them a while back. He is happy to use either and thinks that they are equally effective.

What he did say is that if he has a big pre-baiting campaign that he would prefer to use frozen baits as he wonders whether the preservative has a minor effect on the bioavailability of some of the nutrients as theoretically it might try to preserve the bait whilst the digestive process is trying to break it down.

But the bottom line was he thought that for his bait range the 2 types of bait were basically the same and he wasn't bothered which he used. I suspect that the same is true across all the quality bait makers.

The other thing to consider is whether a bait is really not preserved. I have heard many tales of bait sold out of freezers being stored in ambient warehouses as it was preserved and using a freezer was just point of sale marketing (like Sunny Delight being in the fridge cabinet but not requiring refrigeration).

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   Old Thread  #27 16 Mar 2018 at 5.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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so they analyzed those baits and found out they are nutritionaly not ok?
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   Old Thread  #26 16 Mar 2018 at 0.33am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A few lakes ive fished previously have banned cell type baits, cell, vanilla, hybrid etc, due to the nutritional content vs fish dependence on it. One of the lakes was suffering and the fish looking weight. One of the recommendations from the people they got in was to ban nut based baits and promote fishmeal based baits, pellets etc. Always thought it was an interesting move myself. Dont know the results as I stopped fishing there. Unsure if it has any weight to it
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   Old Thread  #25 14 Mar 2018 at 5.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I bet it wasnt Mainline Cell !!!

maybe some Ebay version or cell flavour bait ? because as others have said is only available in a freezer bait and that breaks down
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   Old Thread  #24 14 Mar 2018 at 4.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ive never seen one

However if you go on ebay there are people knocking out 'cell' flavored stuff so maybe its that?
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   Old Thread  #23 14 Mar 2018 at 2.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Con in my opinion
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