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   Old Thread  #97 22 Jan 2018 at 11.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #96 22 Jan 2018 at 11.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No, not seen it. I'll have a look. Is it on his own page or the PAG page?
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   Old Thread  #95 22 Jan 2018 at 11.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nick did you read Timís post on fb?
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   Old Thread  #94 22 Jan 2018 at 10.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You'll not get any answers Joss as I'm sure those who set this petition up haven't got a clue. It's well meaning but there's no real content. If they want it debated then there needs to be something to debate and nothing has been provided.

We all know that the lethal option is off the table but I'm not sure that folk really know what is meant by non-lethal. Ok, let's assume it's debated and all fishery owners are given licences to trap otters. What happens to an unfenced water? You've got an otter in a trap, now what? Relocate it to Ben Nevis?

Like I said, the intention is good but there's no meat on the bones, it's a hollow petition. The PAG have made excellent ground and I'm sure there's lots going on behind the scenes that us mere mortals aren't aware of. Things like this won't derail your efforts but equally I don't think they're helping in any way.
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   Old Thread  #93 22 Jan 2018 at 10.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Horse and water spring to mind. Hey ho, everyone is different I suppose
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   Old Thread  #92 22 Jan 2018 at 10.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Good night James

I have no further questions as you can't answer them 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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   Old Thread  #91 22 Jan 2018 at 10.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nail on head.
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   Old Thread  #90 22 Jan 2018 at 10.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I know exactly what I've signed, as have thousands of others.
Of course I knew that was coming, nice to know where people stand, debates like this brings out what people are really like, give my regards to Dave, although as predicted you've already spoke to him about me.
I'll let the barbel society know that a request is imminent from yourself as you have a few questions.
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   Old Thread  #89 22 Jan 2018 at 10.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry James...I forgot...

Ive not moaned, ive asked questions...

Be lucky not many barbel left round our way now on the Ouse...few in upper nene cropping up I hear 😉
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   Old Thread  #88 22 Jan 2018 at 10.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So you STILL don't know what youve actually signed 😳😳

Anyway, ive enjoyed our little debate...always find it amusing with uneducated people...(you knew that was coming as you can read me so well 😂


It makes no odds, to me at all, just found the whole petition rather confusing

Be lucky James, don't be to harsh on Dave Webb, he's done far more to raise this issue than anyone in the non angling fraternity...you may well do,well to remember that one...mind you, top marks for signing a petition 😜
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   Old Thread  #87 22 Jan 2018 at 10.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I clearly can't give you the answer you crave, but what I have done is to point you in the direction of the people who can, they are a friendly bunch, and I'm sure they can help. Now it's entirely up to you, either ask the ones who know, or moan on carp forum.
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   Old Thread  #86 22 Jan 2018 at 10.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Very well put 👍
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   Old Thread  #85 22 Jan 2018 at 10.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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😂😂😂😂 and you said you could read me like a book....😂😂😂😂 far too easy you are James

There is No one way....one will find his/her path...that's fine...but don't expect not to find the odd cross road 😜
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   Old Thread  #84 22 Jan 2018 at 10.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
It's a pile of rubbish that will go nowhere. Due to reasons stated, it has no substance to it.

Personally I still signed it though, maybe a bit hastily, but let's be honest. Until the otter population is even attempted to be counted no lethal means will be introduced. One crappy petition won't solve nothing but it may get them thinking that xxxx number of people actually have a concern about the issue.

If this petition can get the amount of interest being poor quality, imagine what a properly researched and evidenced petition could do. Not just fish, extended to birds, mammals, amphibians, etc. Show the devastation of all biodiversity and then you'll have something that cannot be ignored by even the most ignorant human.
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   Old Thread  #83 22 Jan 2018 at 10.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Point proven, your way or the highway
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