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   Old Thread  #68 18 Apr 2019 at 8.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Tbh I wouldn't pay that much but each to there own. But I'n proper tight with my fishing now. Especially with bait now
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   Old Thread  #67 17 Apr 2019 at 10.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Good point well made .
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   Old Thread  #66 17 Apr 2019 at 7.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Great post
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   Old Thread  #65 17 Apr 2019 at 9.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I now have two waters,both are free to me,and whoever I decide to take as a guest..

My third water,most likely the best place,i have seen,let alone fished,decent members,fully otter fenced..in amazing surroundings,cost £55,it was,is,a total privilege to be even considered a member...

So my angling cost is bit of bait,food,little fuel usage,rod license...is all I'll spend this year.
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   Old Thread  #64 17 Apr 2019 at 7.24am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
£650 for a certain sort after Essex lake ticket..another Essex lake I pay £140, commons up to 47lb with 2 mid 40 mirrors plus around 12 30s. both well run lakes without any punishers.
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   Old Thread  #63 17 Apr 2019 at 6.51am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It all depends on your time. I manage 3-4 trips a year so would never pay more than £250 for a ticket as anymore and Iíd just have 3-4 sessions somewhere like sandhurst.
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   Old Thread  #62 16 Apr 2019 at 3.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I pay 525.00 for a syndicate of 2 lakes. Have a lake to myself most trips. Fish to just over 40lb. It was 350, 11 years when I was first a member.

Next seasons club has two venues, one is very quiet and the club ticket is 120 quid.
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   Old Thread  #61 16 Apr 2019 at 10.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'd agree with that statement and add that the things I would value may not be the the things that the next bloke values. To each his own.
Its a huge amount of money but I would pay it for the right water, one that's quiet, few members, undamaged & great looking fish.
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   Old Thread  #60 16 Apr 2019 at 9.50am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Imo any syndi is worth exactly what an angler is willing to pay.

I had a water lined up for this year, paid £650 18 months in advance. Then shortly before the ticket starts I got a message saying price had gone up to £1100 lol. The water in question is not worth that imo, for various reasons. So I'm out.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't pay 1100 for other waters though.
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   Old Thread  #59 16 Apr 2019 at 9.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Most i have ever paid for a ticket was £1,400. Big well known pit in Cambs that was a lovely place to fish with some proper lumps, however, taking into account it closed for 2 months in the summer and fished poorly through winter i was really paying for 6 months fishing.....throw in the rules that banned zigs and you were pissing in the wind most of the time in the warmer months fishing in depths of up to 40ft when the fish were in the upper layers....

For me it's all about what you perceive as value for money.

Unfortunately greed is rife in carp fishing now from ticket prices to the Carp tax we pay on gear. but if there's a market for it then it will only continue.
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   Old Thread  #58 16 Apr 2019 at 6.15am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Welly is now £2100 I believe
My old water was £2500
Dropped it as I couldnít warrant the money
As I was fishing less every year or Iíd rejoin tomorrow.
Now on a £600 a year ticket where I probably manage 10 nights a year.

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   Old Thread  #57 16 Apr 2019 at 4.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That does seem a bit much for me, there is 2 syndicates around my area

1 that is £200 a year with the carp going to low 30s
2 this one is £800 a year but has at least one 50, a few 40s and alot of smaller 30s and 20s

A friend of mine has a syndicate up near Portsmouth way that he pays £300 a year and has a couple 40s in it, no way would I pay £1200 year for that sort of lake, I could see the appeal if it was absolutely stunning with features but not if it's a featureless bowl.
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   Old Thread  #56 16 Apr 2019 at 0.33am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Only if you catch one, which can be a very rare event as it is not as if you are fishing a water that gets stocked ...
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   Old Thread  #55 16 Apr 2019 at 0.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I paid £995 last year , but has some clonkers in, this year my syndicate costs £400 and has much bigger carp in than the original post quoted.
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   Old Thread  #54 15 Apr 2019 at 11.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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At least you get to eat the salmon though.
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   Old Thread  #53 15 Apr 2019 at 10.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Have a guided day on a decent salmon beat in Scotland, makes carp fishing look cheap.
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   Old Thread  #52 15 Apr 2019 at 9.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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£23?
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   Old Thread  #51 15 Apr 2019 at 9.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Like I said it depends how much you have, if I had that spare a week I might spend it.
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   Old Thread  #50 15 Apr 2019 at 9.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
£1200 for a hole in the ground with a few twenties in it is a piss take.

My Ďrunsí water is £70 a year, you can bang out a few twenties in a day, itís otter fenced, mature and only has 40 members, half of which donít even fish it. Itís like a little redmere.

My Ďproperí waters donít cost anything like £1200 a year, in fact no where near and they are some of the best in the country.

One of my biggest angling regrets is twice turning down a Horton church ticket when it was about £500. What a bellend. Alas the woodcarving will never be mine.

Sign of the times I guess. I used to fish Jones pit on the leisure sport angling ticket for about £60 I think. Now itís an rk water and itís £650 a year, lots of work done to it but Iíve not met a single member who says itís worth the more than x10 price rise.
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   Old Thread  #49 15 Apr 2019 at 8.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree, soon spend that.

Thatís nothing compared to a decent gym membership or even a half decent golf club - never mind the amount of wonga you drop in the golf club bar on top!
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   Old Thread  #48 15 Apr 2019 at 8.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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£23 a week. Most wouldnít bat an eyelid at going to the pub for a couple with the mrs and spending that on two drinks each. Pretty good value for money to be fair, itís how you value your surroundings and how much time you get to fish.
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   Old Thread  #47 15 Apr 2019 at 8.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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£23 a week. Most wouldnít bat an eyelid at going to the pub for a couple with the mrs and spending that on two drinks each. Pretty good value for money to be fair, itís how you value your surroundings and how much time you get to fish.
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   Old Thread  #46 15 Apr 2019 at 7.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I've been priced off of a couple of waiting lists, where the prices have doubled in the 4-5 years I've been on the lists. I cant imagine the running costs have changed yet the prices are now ridiculous. Mind you what is expensive to one is value to another it just depends how much you have and how prepared you are to spend it
.£1200 does sound insane even if it were full of 50s.
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   Old Thread  #45 6 Jun 2017 at 2.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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they do exist im a member on a lake and the cost inst huge but i have to say that with the members on there its one of the best places ive ever fished and they don't stretch into big thirties never mind 40's without a doubt the money taken goes back into the fishery plus significantly more, just need to look around and find the right place and then keep quiet when your in, your time is very precious spend it where you get the most form it and that's a personal choice.
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   Old Thread  #44 5 Jun 2017 at 10.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm on the waiting list for a well known syndicate that's circa £1200 pa membership, but that's a good sized water with shed loads of big carp. It's in Cambridgeshire, that's all I'm saying... but paying that to fish some little carp puddle - no way. I fish a couple of club waters that are around £70 pa and both have very high stockings of 20's and decent number of 30's. So, if you look around, you can get good carp fishing for decent money. In fact, yesterday I took a weekend off my main water to fish a day ticket venue with a mate. Five acre lake, no night fishing, well run and in nice settings - we had 14 fish between us, 6 x 20's to me and 5 to my mate, he had the biggest at 29. That was £15 for three rods, but we both paid £10 for two rods. Paying a few hundred quid to fish some of these mud holes baffles me no end... paying to fish decent waters with proper challenges and big fish, now that does make more sense.
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   Old Thread  #43 5 Jun 2017 at 9.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You're right about having a syndicate leader Andy and in my view it is absolutely essential. However that leader does not earn a wage from the payments made by the anglers. The syndicates that I have been privileged to fish had a 'committee' of sorts, only three people, but they had the say on who was excepted rather than just one bloke.
As for paying rent/lease/freehold yes of course these payments have to be met, along with so much more, that's where the anglers fees come into play, but again, one syndicate I belonged to the syndicate leaders ended up putting much for finances into the project than any of the other anglers.

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   Old Thread  #42 5 Jun 2017 at 6.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I would pay it gladly as at least I know it wouldn't be filled with forum/social media "punishers" that moan about anything costing more than a couple of quid.....
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   Old Thread  #41 5 Jun 2017 at 4.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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About right, I just do my own thing, can sometimes cost nothing, just gota look
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   Old Thread  #40 5 Jun 2017 at 7.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Can't not disagree with that mate,I'm now going to tell my friend...lol
..that he belongs to a limited membership commercial fishery,with big force fed eating machines...


That'll take the carnauba off the car 🚗....

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   Old Thread  #39 5 Jun 2017 at 6.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I totally agree that the word 'syndicate' is misused regarding the vast majority of 'syndicate' waters, it's why I refer to my water as' limited membership'. Ultimately it doesn't really make much difference anyway. Even if you get a group of like minded anglers together to lease a lake the cost of membership is still determined by how much the lake owner wants to charge for the lease. Even true syndicates tend to have a leader who ultimately makes the decisions, Jack Hilton at Redmire for instance.
At the end of the day we all have to look at what's on offer and decide whether it's value for money TO US, just like every other purchase we make in life.
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   Old Thread  #38 4 Jun 2017 at 11.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Excellent post,especially true regarding what the word syndicate means..

My friend is adamant he belongs to a syndicate,one time I said ,is all the revenue ploughed back into the lake from the fees to fish....silence....,no all the money goes' to the lake owner..

Light bulb moment
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   Old Thread  #37 4 Jun 2017 at 11.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thera plenty of real syndicate waters about. Many of them are zero publicity but they are there.
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   Old Thread  #36 4 Jun 2017 at 8.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally agree no real syndicates anymore! £ rules so individuals can profit. Supply and demand unfortunatley.
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   Old Thread  #35 4 Jun 2017 at 7.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Spot on
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   Old Thread  #33 4 Jun 2017 at 5.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Reading through this thread really does go to show how carp fishing has changed, that's for sure.

But, when you think about it, has it really changed?

There were always the lakes that were 'expensive' okay not the sort of money we see today, but when you had a ticket for the 'special waters' like Darenth when it was Leisure Sport, or some of the others in the south, they certainly wasn't the same sort of price as your average club or association.

There was always the anglers who wanted to catch the biggest fish, even though the surroundings wasn't as nice as other lakes, I can remember some horrible working gravel pits for example that were very popular back in the day that could never be described as 'picturesque'. Conningbrook was another example of a hole in the ground with not much round it, if fact Milton, Pan and Handle were also waters that lacked appeal for 'just being there'.

Now that money has become even more important in carp fishing, the real syndicate waters are very thin on the ground, in fact so many anglers don't even know what a syndicate water really is!

The most common syndicate these days are purely expensive, selective, commercial one off payment waters, that are generating an income for either a company or private individual. The real syndicates were formed by like minded anglers to secure a water and nurture it to provide a special resource that could provide good quality angling for those that wanted to put some graft and money into it. The money was used to look after the lake and surrounding land, not to provide an income for an individual.



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   Old Thread  #32 4 Jun 2017 at 3.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But there's a few nice fish in your lake
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   Old Thread  #31 4 Jun 2017 at 2.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I pay 2k for mine only spring and summer ticket and it has to be the most peaceful lake I've ever fished.
Things I like about it few thing I don't.
Pays your money make your choice.
I've not even been since Halloween last year,
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   Old Thread  #30 4 Jun 2017 at 2.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Couldn't agree more with you !
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   Old Thread  #29 4 Jun 2017 at 1.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You only need read some replies here re 30's or 40's, the majority today are size over form obsessed. Give me low stock perfectly formed dark low stock fish in stunning tranquil location every time. Tin hat on but many of the 30lb + mirrors in the uk would be called obese if they were human.
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   Old Thread  #28 4 Jun 2017 at 1.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Does this venue have an otter fence,or plans for one..?

These day's I wouldn't consider paying any money up front,particularly in the southwest unless an otter fence was in situ..

We have one or two places around here that are fenced and have carp in ,to rival anywhere else in the UK..however,even though it's cheap for up,country it's expensive for the appalling wages in Cornwall and Devon,also gravel swims with swim names on boards,absolutely everything that I detest with carp fishing..

I get asked,open your lake and trout stream..to the gp,....judging by what I see on other venues and the village lakes my son works on I'd sooner pull my toenails out with a leatherman..
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   Old Thread  #27 4 Jun 2017 at 12.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you fish it 100 days out of the year then its 12 quid a day, so depending on the enjoyment level and amount you will fish it might work out for you. Personally I wouldnt pay that unless there were 40+'s in there
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   Old Thread  #26 4 Jun 2017 at 11.50am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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At that sorta money it's all about what you get for it for me, big pretty fish empty banks pretty venue few facilities and I'd pay that.
Other than that it wouldn't be worth it for me


Well said
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At that sorta money it's all about what you get for it for me, big pretty fish empty banks pretty venue few facilities and I'd pay that.
Other than that it wouldn't be worth it for me

We discussed putting our lake at 800 a year for ten people which covers the costs and gives a nice quiet place to go with good fish.
But then you lose something in the place not getting uses Alot aswell
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   Old Thread  #24 4 Jun 2017 at 11.31am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Choices

People will pay it, it's so popular now. I wouldn't for one reason from reading the first post and one word somes these places up for me, character, absolutely none by the sounds of it never mind the £1200 for the pleasure of it

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   Old Thread  #23 4 Jun 2017 at 11.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I tend to agree with you, although my salmon n seatrout fishing at 50 quid a year works out loads cheaper than a weekend carp fishing.

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   Old Thread  #22 4 Jun 2017 at 10.52am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I'd expect a velux open style bivvy thrown in for that much.
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   Old Thread  #21 4 Jun 2017 at 10.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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was about to say the same

I don't know why more people don't join clubs

Plenty of great clubs about with varied waters and most are about £100 a year .... Could join 3 clubs and probably never
get to fish all the waters they have ?
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   Old Thread  #20 4 Jun 2017 at 9.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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For a lake that holds mid twentys there's tonnes of clubs that you would pay around £100 for and hardly ever see anyone else.
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   Old Thread  #19 4 Jun 2017 at 9.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Its the same as 4 nights a month on a day ticket at £25 a time. Peace and quiet versus busy i suppose.
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If I had the time to join Wellington or kingsmead/Horton complex I'd also have no issues with the £2k ticket price not £1200 for a newly dug hole though
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   Old Thread  #17 4 Jun 2017 at 9.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'd happily pay the £1800 for Wellington but £1200 for what your describing no.
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   Old Thread  #16 4 Jun 2017 at 8.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If your local and fish lots and want quiet fishing then why not if u got the money
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   Old Thread  #15 4 Jun 2017 at 7.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
If people are daft enough to pay it then the owner has it dead right, for him/her.
Personally I think that £1200 for just about any ticket is madness, I would happily pay good money to fish a beautiful water, holding cracking fish (size almost irrelevant) and with a small membership.
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   Old Thread  #14 4 Jun 2017 at 7.36am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Maybe they will put in two 70lb+ from "stock" pond.
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   Old Thread  #13 4 Jun 2017 at 7.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Hi all...Around the mid 90's me and a small group of mates got invited to join a syndi" on a newly dug venue.. We were given the spiel from the off ie..lots of fish going in from reputable sources..ongoing stocking...limited numbers of anglers blah blah.....The chap seemed to be on the level, the carrot had been dangled, so we parted with our wonga. Wasn't too long before we found out we had been had....mateys tax bill was overdue and we were funding his bail out and fines!...
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   Old Thread  #12 4 Jun 2017 at 6.44am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's more than I pay for full membership of a top golf course......
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   Old Thread  #11 4 Jun 2017 at 6.10am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Have you questioned why it is so expensive? The waiting list is probably so long because you don't find out how much it is until accepted and by then loads of people pull out
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   Old Thread  #10 4 Jun 2017 at 0.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yep there's one of those about 10 minutes from me... £6 a day!

It's utterly insane the more I think about it!

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   Old Thread  #9 3 Jun 2017 at 11.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Most park lakes around our way(Essex) have 30s in so 1200 for mid 20s no good mate
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   Old Thread  #8 3 Jun 2017 at 11.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
That's just ridiculous,I'd not carp fish...

I always thought angling was a working class pursuit,except salmon and trout fishing which has always been expensive.

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   Old Thread  #7 3 Jun 2017 at 11.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
It's expensive for that stamp of fish. Say it's one for the future but what's the price gonna be when there's 30/40s in there??
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   Old Thread  #6 3 Jun 2017 at 11.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You would think so but ... already a waiting list in place for next season!
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   Old Thread  #5 3 Jun 2017 at 10.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wow!!!! Just wow!!!!
It's not like your short of lakes round there!!!
I would be amazed if it sells out at that price!!
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   Old Thread  #4 3 Jun 2017 at 10.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If people are prepared to pay for it then it's viable. If it's a hole in the ground with fish to mid twenty then a fool will pay it. Once (if) the fish gain 40 plus then the price will rise accordingly. Let the market dictate.
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   Old Thread  #3 3 Jun 2017 at 10.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's probably what they need to charge to make such a small syndicate viable, doesn't make it worth while though
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   Old Thread  #2 3 Jun 2017 at 10.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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it would be mental for me, its a hole in the ground.
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Just recently got on a waiting list for a small syndicate in Essex.

Lake is basically a featureless hole in the ground as it was a farm irrigation lake. It's about 3 acres, fish wise newly stocked carp from other lakes between 17-25lb (that are known) not sure if there are any bigger yet.

What appealed was that there are very limited members (10 this season) but it appears to be a lake for future...

Now for the best bit, today I found out the the annual season ticket price is £1200 ... I mean seriously! WTF!!!

My current syndicate for all it's misgivings is only £330 a year and at the right time of year has a 40 and at least half a dozen 30's...

Does this seem mental to you guys? Or am I out of touch with how much these places are charging these days?
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