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 #62 13 Apr 2017 at 8.44pm | |  |   |
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In reply to Post #61
I was very sceptical when Nash brought out his Scope and Dwarf range of rods , I immediately thought it was a scam to get everyone to part with more cash.
However I admit now I was so very wrong, having started Carp fishing in the 90s I just took it as gospel that carp rods had to be at least 12 ft long, why I thought that I don't really know but I did.
For the last 3 seasons I've been using 9ft rods for all my fishing , I find them more accurate when casting and far easier to use in swims with overhanging trees. The lake I fish is only around 10 acres so can hit all spots easily with a 2oz lead. I'm totally sold on shorter rods and would only change when and if I change venues and I need long rods again.
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#61 13 Apr 2017 at 6.11pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #59
No good if want move swims though
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#59 13 Apr 2017 at 1.05pm | | | |
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There's also a fashion thing for 13f aviators seems to be THE rod to get
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#58 13 Apr 2017 at 12.24pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #55
Not all clubs will allow you to start trimming back overgrown swims, I know a couple that I'm in would give you a bollocking for it.
I've not yet got a set of 10ft rods but I've been intending to for some time just so it's easier to get into overgrown, un-fished swims and also for the canal.
As said though there's also the fashion element, I can't deny that I think a set of small rods with some nice baitrunners look good on the bank...and if people can afford to have different sets, enjoy having nice things and aren't harming anyone else's fishing then why not 
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#57 13 Apr 2017 at 11.56am | | | |
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In reply to Post #56
Watch this space in 10 years, I'll put my money on 9/10ft Rods losing sales.
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#56 13 Apr 2017 at 11.22am | | | |
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As said in my earlier post a 10ft rod is much easier when using a boat ,I've lost count of the number of times I've almost snapped the tip off my 13ft rods while on the boat (3ft hanging over the back) .
But I do agree that most people buying scopes Orr dwarves are just following the crowds ,but if that's want they want to do then that's all good .I'm certainly not going to judge them.
I don't agree that you would move if you had scopes but not if you had big rods
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#55 13 Apr 2017 at 8.08am | | | |
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In reply to Post #51
Lol how tight are these swims of yours? And are you saying people with 12 ft Rods can't make the distance to the far off points but you can with your scopes?
I personally would rather invest 40 quid in a set of decent extendable tree cutters and keep my 12ft Rods 😮
But, if I had the money I'd definitely buy a set of scoops and marry them with some castizms just to have then if I wanted
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#54 13 Apr 2017 at 5.01am | | | |
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In reply to Post #49
What, like 13' rods?????
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#53 12 Apr 2017 at 7.40pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #51
I'm exactly the same I have my 9ft scopes, unhooking mat, tempest brolly and bait kept in the boot if I do manage to find the time to get a night out I only have to throw my sleep system on the rear seats and take a bit off food and I'm sorted. 
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#52 12 Apr 2017 at 7.21pm | | | |
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Granted it wouldn't stop you considering and making a move, but in the possible rush of excitement heaving your big pits and 12/13 footers a couple hundred metres it really does take it out of you! I've been there and it isn't the most pleasant of experiences, just saying it takes a bit of weight away and so it's easier.
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#51 12 Apr 2017 at 5.38pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #48
Had scopes for a year now and have sold my 12ft greys platinums as I just wasn't using them anymore! I'm a single dad with two boys and most of my sessions begin with dropping them off to their grandparents for the night. Using scopes mean all my gear is tucked away in the boot so no need to fold down any seats and makes this process much easier! I think most of the benefits have already been mentioned on here but but I will add that scalling down to scopes has somehow made my fishing even more enjoyable. Also let's not forget that the whole concept of scope is "to hunt for carp" it's a valid point that the extra 3ft of carbon doesn't weigh much more however the foldeddown package is just so much more manageable. I've certainly upped my catch rate dramatically since going over to scope and fingers crossed the rest of you don't because that leaves the small swims and far off points all to me!!! 👍
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#50 12 Apr 2017 at 5.02pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #48
Laziness
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#49 12 Apr 2017 at 4.59pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #1
Just another fad to catch the gullible 
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#48 12 Apr 2017 at 12.47pm | | | |
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It started as a trend, selling point, I can see the advantages though but am shocked that an angler possibly wouldn't consider a move if they were using bigger rods & reels....ridiculous !
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#47 12 Apr 2017 at 8.20am | | | |
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I'd say the advantages are transportation as mentioned, storage (live in a small flat with very limited space), weight (less of a task to move and quicker too), fitting in swims if your lake is an overgrown one & increased accuracy of casting short distances. I think the fact these short rods have enabled someone on here to get out fishing more is awesome, and a no brainer if you think they'd do the same for you.
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